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interviews Successful Chinese Domainer Gives Advice to Investors

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A very good contact of mine in China has just shared an interesting piece of news with me. As you'll know, the Chinese domain market has taken off rapidly within the past six months in particular, and whilst Western investors are struggling to understand what's happening, it seems that many Chinese investors are having the same sentiments.

My contact has told me that many Chinese investors are still trying to understand what is happening with the domain investment market. With floor prices for four-letter "CHIP" .COMs increasing to over $2,000 per name and other extensions increasing in popularity, it seems that Chinese domainers are also looking for guidance on what they should be spending their money on.

Last night (November 18th), famous investor John Xu made a comment in a WeChat group that caused great interest among the Chinese domaining community. The 4.CN founder told fellow investors to be "cautious and rational in registering meaningless domain names with long letters and numbers." This could be referring to the current buyout of "Chinese Premium" 5L domains, and the continued registration of seven-, eight-, and nine- number domains.

He also warned the WeChat group that hype and false reports tend to exist in this market, which can give misguided information to new investors. Mr. Xu also expects domain names to eventually be "reasonably allocated" to all investors.

It is interesting to see that many Chinese investors are struggling to fathom what's happening in the short domain market, and it's good to see an experienced investor such as Mr. Xu dispensing this advice to those looking to invest in domain names.

Do you agree with Mr Xu's opinions? Write a comment below.

Other news that was dispensed to me today was the fact that another famous Chinese investor - Lei Zhu - has recently completed some very good sales. After selling 277.com for an undisclosed fee, Lei Zhu then sold 699.com for a price close to $1,000,000.
 
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Thank you for posting. As far as the Chinese investors confusion is concern, they are right in thinking because the speed of price increase is fast. The problem is not the product or market, but the speed of price increase on daily basis. But couple of years ago the same situation was created with 3 letter domains and now 3 letter domains have steady market value.
 
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Thanks. Its just like the stock market, no one knows for sure, money management and risk/reward as usual are key.
 
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Thanks for the post. Seems to me that, much like here in the US, smaller investors in the chinese market are following trends they are seeing based on the investments and sales of larger chinese investors. I know for me that much of the market data I read actually does influence my buying patterns. This data influences me even though I am what would be considered a small domain investor. I hope the excitement and investment in the Chinese domain market continues because even a small US investor like myself is selling more domains now than ever before over the past 15 years.
 
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Lei Zhu and Mr Xu has a bad letters: 'i' and 'u' ..
 
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Lei Zhu and Mr Xu has a bad letters: 'i' and 'u' ..

When they'll discover that theyll change with a nice Q
 
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Take a deep breath and relax -- perhaps place that cc in the freezer.

My own investing behavior has been a bit scary lately, so...
 
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So what is the hype and false reports?
 
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Thanks for pointing that out. I've updated the article to specify CHIPS.
 
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The sale of 699.com for $1m is BIG NEWS !!!

Any guesses how much 277.com sold for ?
 
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Thanks. Its just like the stock market, no one knows for sure, money management and risk/reward as usual are key.

That's the reasoning that will absolutely lead domainers into trouble imo. It's poor rationalizing and an indolent assessment (I'm not critiquing you @Theydon just the current state of things). When you start comparing the domain industry to the stock market and go a step further to treating/attempting to treat domains as securities you hit a massive wall of fallacies in that line. Just saying. Anyways, I absolutely agree with Mr. Xu's take on things. If you weren't on the boat when it left shore... don't swim against the wave... wait for the next one. My 2 cents.
 
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Domain Investors in Numberic domains should stick to quality and rare names.
NN NNN , same with LL and LLL and maybe LLLL and only focus on .COM.
Quality will always be quality.

Here are some examples of quality NNN.com domains that are for sale.
708.com
983.com
380.com
397.com
487.com
542.com
652.com
 
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IMO domain market is easier to manipulate for those big investors than stock market.
It's normal that there will be fluctuation in the market some days. No need worry about that.
These big investors will make some decisions and take actions to protect the market if there is a big fluctuation. The domains they owned more than us. When the market collapsed, they will have a heavy lost even bankrupt but us small investors only have lost out several months salary.
With this in mind, I'll still keep a positive mindset to invest in domains.:roll:
 
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So the big money investors grab up the premiums in all TLDs while others are gun shy to invest due to such news reported by a domainer and site owner who seemingly manipulates domain sales according to a few np domainers.

So basically scare off the little fish while the sharks eat up the bait.

Its the oldest ploy in capitalism mixed in with socialistic strategies.

Don't believe a word of it is my opinion!!

:xf.confused:
 
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i think both LLLL chips and regular LLLL will go up
 
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Nice Article; thanks for sharing the advice (the Warning)!
DN market fundamental remains the same; short and memorable DN both letters (L) and numbers (n) are limited in supply by nature and will see steady increase in value. Where as long redundant 6,7,8,9,... Ls and 11,12,13,...Ns most will have a divorce before the first renewal anniversary.

.Com was, is, and will remain the King of extensions; where most of the new gTLD, with few exceptions, are not going anywhere; they remind me of cars' Custom Licensee Plate; just an expensive novelty, IMO!
 
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The noice and feelings from every domainer will make the diffrence. We just have to mind the tupe of information at thos time.
It is a normal thing in every market to swing up or down provided you buy cheap it is very sure that you will sell profitably.
So there is no any cause for alarm.
Thanks to Mr. James Ils for the both information received fro Mr. H Xu and Lei Zhu both are good info.
 
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Did we read the same article?
They specifically warn not to go into long numericals, 5L buyouts etc., but comments are more around what the prices for 4L and shorter would be, if price is too high etc.

Basically the men justly stress out that there is no rational usage and real market for 5L acronyms and long numericals and it is the "tulip market".

This is reseller forum and I understand that many have made money on this and congrats with it, just make sure you don't have too many of those or haven't diversified to much away from real assets. If crash for those does happen, it will be swift and no one will be able to dump anything.
 
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All we see the rapid and didn't understand what happened.
On Godaddy & NameJet, all LLL.info are catched. Two days ago, some of 4N.info, ABBB.info & AAAB.info, ABAB.info are available, but now all gone :(
 
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It is always good to get the perspective of someone who understands the Chinese investors and their current and previous market. It is so interesting that they are trying to understand the industry as well. The more I read about it seem it will be a temporary trend that people are buying the 4 letters left and right and if I am currently an owner the time to sell an maximize is now.

I wonder what the next trend will be and if it will be make more sense like actual English words although not sure how beneficial these are for them.Many people keep mentioning numbers an short characters resemble their language in a way and this is why they get those types of domains.

- Will
 
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What's going to happen, the floor price of these names will eventually reach a standstill (not that they'll become worthless) and it's the ones that purchased at the standstill price will be the losers, what that standstill price will be can only be for each category of LLLLs, numerics, can only be speculated on right now but both negative and positive speculation from respected investors is going to be a major factor in values from this point forward, keeping in mind there's interest on each end (can say they're worthless so they can acquire names themselves or vice-versa). That's basically the risk involved. Go with your gut.
 
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maybe i hav ebeen preoccupied with othe domaining issues but what the hell is a CHIP ???
 
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Chinese Premium domains, no a e i o u v, no 0's and 4's
 
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