Domain Empire

information Chao Mi: Understanding the Vital Data

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Chao Mi (www.chaomi.cc) has become a popular website for tracking daily price changes of domain sales in various Chinese marketplaces. Due to the fact that many sales from the past year have been to China, it’s important to know what is selling, which prices have increased, and which have decreased. It’s a little bit like NameBio specifically for the Chinese market.

Chaomi.cc shouldn't be the only resource you use, as it only displays sales data from a select number of Chinese marketplaces, but since it is such a widely used resource, I wanted to take a few minutes to go through the website for anyone who may be unfamiliar with it.

Firstly, unless you can speak Chinese, you’ll need to translate the website. You can do that by clicking here. Once you’ve done that, you’ll see there are over 50 different categories of domain name listed, covering popular investment markets

If you're using Google Translate (via the link above), there are some important distinctions that you need to be aware of:
  • The term “initials” is to be used to describe Chip domains (i.e., those without the letters a, e, i, o, u, v). You’ll see categories such as “Four Initial .COM.” These are the prices of Chips.
  • The term “letter” is used to describe domain prices including data from sales of domain names that include all letters, including a, e, i, o, u, v.
These are important distinctions to make, and the data from each of these categories shouldn’t be confused. Another important thing to note is the fact that all prices are in RMB (Chinese Yuan). I’d recommend using XE.com to translate prices into USD.


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The Homepage
If you scroll down Chaomi.cc's homepage, you'll notice the various categories mentioned above. Beside each category is a set of numbers. The first three columns are:
  • Latest price (in RMB)
  • Percentage change
  • Price change (in RMB)
These numbers can be displayed in red, green, or black. Green means that there has been an decrease in price, red indicates an increase, and black indicates no change. These prices are determined by recent data compiled from marketplace sales and reflect the price changes on that day.

There are four more columns that are fairly self explanatory:
  • Yesterday's lowest price
  • Yesterday's highest price
  • The previous day's lowest price
  • The previous day's highest price
These columns allow you to easily take a look at recent prices to see whether there have been any major shifts within the last 48 hours. This data can be used to help you determine when to either buy or sell a category of domains.

Due to the fact that there are so many categories listed on Chaomi.cc's homepage, they have included a "fast positioning" system that is located above the categories list (visible on the screenshot above). Using this will take you directly to the statistics for a specific category of name that you might be following.


Category Pages
Each category listed on Chaomi.cc comes with its own dedicated page. By clicking on the "Market Trends" link to the right of each category listing, you'll be taken to that category's dedicated page.

Once there, you'll see a graph of the latest price changes that are updated hourly. Below that is the same data but in numerical form. The data shows the average prices over the last six hours.

Further down the page is a similar graph, but it displays data from the last ten days. This data is probably more relevant as it shows far clearer patterns. Again, the data is also displayed in numerical form below the graph.

Below that, there's another table showing you the amount of domains within that category that have been sold on any given day. Remember, these are only sales that have occurred on the marketplaces monitored by Chao Mi.


How to Use This Data
The data from Chao Mi can help you determine something extremely important: what is currently selling on popular Chinese domain markets. You'll be able to tell which categories are rapidly increasing and which are slowing down. With China being the source of a high percentage of public sales this year, it's advisable to keep a track of this data if you own domain names that Chinese investors might be interested in.

It's also useful in helping with your acquisitions. Using data from Chao Mi may give you a better idea of the current prices you'll be able to sell at to a Chinese investor and therefore helping you to determine your acquisition prices.

Many Chinese domain buyers that I have come across during five, six, and seven figure transactions often quote Chao Mi data to justify their pricing.
 
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Thanks for the info @James Iles !

What do you think of 111.co ? It looks to do the same and use 22.cn data as well as eName data to produce graphs also. The beauty of this website is that it has an English button and converts the currency to $$$ making it a lot simpler to read.
 
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@noonoo1 I've never used that website - but I'll ask my Chinese contacts whether it carries as much weight as Chao Mi
 
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It looks like Red indicates price increase and Green the other way..
Can you please confirm it

Thank You for the explanation
 
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@rockrock My apologies; that was an error in the article - yes, it is red for price increase and green for decrease. It's been fixed, thanks for pointing that out.
 
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Hello James, thank you for the info.

When you have an opportunity, can you ask your Chinese contacts if they can determine how Chaomi.cc is treating the letters 'y' and 'w' when it aggregates data?

Both 'y' and 'w' are semi-vowels (apparently) that are"...not included in the table of initials in the official pinyin system". (According to Wiki for it's worth).

However, they do seem to function as a sort of pseudo-initial where required and may actually be treated by Chaomi as initials for that reason.

I also wonder what the convention is (if any) among Chinese domainers?
 
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Thanks for clarifying that bit about the initials vs letters. That had confused me in the past.
 
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Hello James, thank you for the info.

When you have an opportunity, can you ask your Chinese contacts if they can determine how Chaomi.cc is treating the letters 'y' and 'w' when it aggregates data?

Both 'y' and 'w' are semi-vowels (apparently) that are"...not included in the table of initials in the official pinyin system". (According to Wiki for it's worth).

However, they do seem to function as a sort of pseudo-initial where required and may actually be treated by Chaomi as initials for that reason.

I also wonder what the convention is (if any) among Chinese domainers?

Actually both "Y" and "W" are not really vowels, this is how it works:
For example, "yi" means one in Chinese, pronounced exactly as "yi", but "i" never appears by itself.
Then, "y" never takes the place of a vowel. For example, in English, you have "dressy", where "y" is kind of like "i", but in Chinese pinyin, "y" and "w" are always only used in the first letter (as a silent consonant).

Hope this helps :)
 
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Hope this helps :)
Thank you, it is very helpful.
Would it be safe to think of 'y' and 'w' as 'semi-initials' that are only used to support vowels perhaps?
 
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Thank you, it is very helpful.
Would it be safe to think of 'y' and 'w' as 'semi-initials' that are only used to support vowels perhaps?

Kind of, I guess, but really only "n" and "g" would appear after the first letter that I can think of.
Most "consonants" are only used as the first letter, and they are required in the first letter to support vowels. This is is exactly the reason why "Chinese premium" even exist. There are "double consonants" like "zh, ch, sh".

So some examples of characters:
ya, yi, yu, zha, za, zhong, na, nong, ming, ma, tian, ta, tong, kong, ren, da, xiao, mi, ma, meng, muo etc......

Everything has only one syllable, and multiple of these "characters" form a compete sentence
like:
Today is hot: jin tian tian qi hen re
Did you eat? : ni chi fan le ma

One English word can be consisted by multiple of these:
computer: "dian nao"
technology: "ke ji"
apple: "ping guo"

As you can see, they are only use in the first letter.
 
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Damn...so many typos, how do I edit posts in this thing??
 
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Thank you, it is very helpful.
Would it be safe to think of 'y' and 'w' as 'semi-initials' that are only used to support vowels perhaps?
Oh, and also, there are words like "wang","wei","yong',"yuan" etc...where y and w actually add sounds to the words.
 
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Damn...so many typos, how do I edit posts in this thing??
I'm not sure that you can edit posts you have made in a blog thread at all.
 
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how Chaomi.cc is treating the letters 'y' and 'w' when it aggregates data?
So in all likelihood Chaomi.cc would not count 'y' and 'w' as initials @brandsly?
 
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So in all likelihood Chaomi.cc would not count 'y' and 'w' as initials @brandsly?

I think they will! They should. "y" and "w" are more initials and consonants than vowels.
 
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I use Chrome to see Chaomi with chrome extension "Google Translator",
Once I am inside www.chaomi.ccm, I just do right click and select "Translate Page"
 
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@fuzzy - All you need to do to confirm that they treat the y and w as initials is click on market trends for the first category - 4 initials COM. If you scroll down, you will see 100 past sales. There are plenty with y and w.
 
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