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One of our most popular topics on NamePros Blog is the regular sales updates from Mike Mann. Our articles about his sales figures regularly attract a lot of discussion, and also a lot of speculation as to how much money Mike makes from domain names.

For those who aren’t familiar, Mike Mann is an extremely accomplished domain investor and has founded three Inc 500 companies - SEO.com, Phone.com and DomainMarket.com. He was also the founder of BuyDomains.com, a company which was partly responsible for the legitimization of domain trading. Mike sold BuyDomains in 2005 to Highland Capital for about $80 million.

Alongside operating companies such as SEO.com, Phone.com and DomainMarket.com, Mike also helps operate two great charities: Grassroots.org and ChangeTheWorld.org.

DomainMarket.com is the domain sales platform, from which Mike and his team sell premium domain names to entrepreneurs, businesses, and nonprofits looking for top-quality names to improve their online brand. Mike gave me a few minutes of his time to discuss some of the key points of DomainMarket.com, along with his thoughts on new gTLDs.

Firstly, I wanted to ask Mike how many domain names he owns. As of July 2015, Mike owns an estimated 250,000 domain names, which are listed at DomainMarket.com. Some of his domain names include HappyBirthday.com, Obey.com, Cameroon.com, Aux.com and Tasty.com. For those who are interested, yes, Mike’s annual domain renewal fee is around $8 per domain name.

Whilst Mike owns a very large portfolio of domains, he confirmed to me that he isn’t acquiring new domain names every week. He didn’t elaborate on this, but one could assume that Mike and his staff are concentrating on the domains that he already owns, which became apparent when I asked him whether DomainMarket.com conducted any outbound sales.

The answer to this is yes, DomainMarket.com has “just started practicing outbound sales” - a type of sales marketing in which you actively seek a domain name buyer instead of waiting for inbound inquiries.

These outbound marketing efforts from DomainMarket.com means that Mike sells an average of seven domain names per day. Of course, not all of these deals are publicized, but Mike does update his Facebook and Twitter accounts with important domain sales when he can. For example, last week he posted three domain name sales totaling $32,500 from domains he’d acquired for a total of $157.50.

I also asked Mike about his average purchase price and average sales price, but this information is confidential. The average sales price from the publicly available data that Mike Mann releases via Twitter is $19,839 whilst the average purchase price is $270.59. Of course, this data cannot be an exact representation of Mike’s domain sales record due to the fact that this is a very small sample of data compared to the company’s daily and weekly averages.

No domain discussion is complete these days without a comment on the new gTLD program. I asked Mike whether he had invested in new gTLDs, and his answer was a simple “No”. I took the TLD discussion a step further by asking whether he thinks that any new gTLD could take the mantle from .com and become the standard for domain name suffixes. His response was short and sweet: “They are lame; none will take over.”

Another interesting piece of information from my chat with Mike is that he is looking to start a new domain name company. Without giving any details on the type of company (perhaps a parking platform or a sales marketplace), he did say that he has a plan and is seeking investment capital.

His latest venture is Cashless.com, a company to help merchants accelerate profits by installing simple cashless payment systems. With Mike’s history of app development and interactive marketing within his other companies (SEO.com LLC, DomainMarket.com LLC, and Phone.com Inc), you can bet that this is a company you’ll hear more about in the future.
 
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Thank you. Mike Mann is my favourite domainer. @jamesiles please try conducting an interview with him.
 
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2 millions in renewals every year
 
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Yea!!! There are lot and lot of premium domains in DomainMarket.com. He must have gotten those domain in the early eighties, those are highly valued domains. Cheers.
 
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@phase1 - I'd be very impressed if he got any domain names in the early 80s...! ;)
 
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You mean those domains are not from80s? haha!!
 
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Those new TLD's are lame, but with the shrinking and limited availability of .coms, they will eventually catch on. We will probably all be dead by then!
 
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Thank you James for sharing this with us.
 
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His response was short and sweet: “They are lame; none will take over.”

hahah #truth

Thanks for providing us with this interview James!

-Omar
 
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No domain discussion is complete these days without a comment on the new gTLD program. I asked Mike whether he had invested in new gTLDs, and his answer was a simple “No”. I took the TLD discussion a step further by asking whether he thinks that any new gTLD could take the mantle from .com and become the standard for domain name suffixes. His response was short and sweet: “They are lame; none will take over.”

What else do you expect a heavy investor in .com domains to say? To trash talk his 250k .com domains investment?

All newgtlds should not be put in the same basket. Some will be successful, and others won't. Newgtlds like .club, .news, and several other market-specific extensions are more meaningful than .com and will have some level of success, which shouldn't be compared to .com success.

The only advantage .com has over other newgtlds, is age and popularity; never meaningfulness.

End users buying domain names for their individual and business presence online, will always factor in cost, brandability, and TLD relevancy to their specific market; not necessarily popularity of TLDs.
 
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Maybe .com sales are slowing down a bit for DomainMarket (as a result of the new gTLDs?) and maybe they do see the new gTLDs as a threat (wanting to get rid of as many of their 250,000 domain names as quickly as possible), and maybe that's the reason that they “just started practicing outbound sales”?

Questions, questions, questions...
 
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What!!! some nGTLDs are more meaningful than .com ? ?? How can you prove that? Well It seems you have done some research that is deceiving you. Just be carefull to consider such well before embark on your purchase.
Yes! there are some good newGTLDs but not to compare the same word or keywords with their .com extension.
Cheers.
 
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What!!! some nGTLDs are more meaningful than .com ? ?? How can you prove that? Well It seems you have done some research that is deceiving you. Just be carefull to consider such well before embark on your purchase.
Yes! there are some good newGTLDs but not to compare the same word or keywords with their .com extension.
Cheers.

⬆You are a noise maker⬆

You've only ranted, and didn't dispute any of my assertions.

  • What is the meaning of com?
  • What is the meaning of news?
  • What is the meaning of club?
  • What is the meaning of network?

If you're unable to answer the above yourself, pls go back to .school!

Thank you.
 
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MarkedMarket said:
Maybe .com sales are slowing down a bit for DomainMarket (as a result of the new gTLDs?) and maybe they do see the new gTLDs as a threat (wanting to get rid of as many of their 250,000 domain names as quickly as possible), and maybe that's the reason that they “just started practicing outbound sales”?

Questions, questions, questions...

Good thinking! Your thoughts are as good as mine. *Questions, Questions, Questions...*

Doing outbound sales to trick people into buying .com domains they don't want or need, is an aggressive marketing scheme.

What happened to the traditional inbound sales where customers come inquiring for a domain instead?

This is also an indication the demand for dot-com domains is getting weak and weaker, with the release of each newgtlds.

Before newgtlds started rolling out, we were seeing pretty much only, and all dotcom aftermarket sales, followed by some ccTLD sales. But newgtlds have no doubt contributed greatly to aftermarket sales.

BTW, didn't Mike sell newtld fun.co some weeks ago? But Mr. Mann has no doubt over-invested heavily in .com domains (250k of them), which is why he's no longer buying dotcoms as systematically indicated in the original post.
 
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What!!! some nGTLDs are more meaningful than .com ? ?? How can you prove that? Well It seems you have done some research that is deceiving you. Just be carefull to consider such well before embark on your purchase.
Yes! there are some good newGTLDs but not to compare the same word or keywords with their .com extension.
Cheers.

New guys, one just joined in June, the other in July. Probably not aware that only 2 new gtlds have made the top 100 sales this year, one of them a registry sale. Probably heavy into new gltds. Posting misinformation like just starting outbound sales when I literally posted links of this happening last year. etc.
 
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James-thanks for the great interview. It would be great to see Mr Mann open a "Brandable" company -but restrict the number of listings- to compete against BrandBucket. With a quantified amount of listings I think people would pay a company like his double what BrandBucket gets as a listing fee-and it's right up his ally.
 
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He's definitely a well respected guy in the domain industry and has certainly proven himself multiple times over. Judging by the numbers you posted though, the names he is acquiring/selling (and posting on Twitter) are most likely not the premiums which you are talking about. I doubt he picked up Aux.com, Cameroon.com, or Tasty.com for low $XXX, even if it was 10 or 12 years ago. If he's been holding those kinds of domains since the 90's and hasn't sold them yet then I would say he may be pricing on a little too high. Also, when Inc. 500 companies are starting to turn towards outbound marketing themselves that isn't always a good sign. That tells me the demand he has coming in for domains could be going down, although only he would know the true answer to that (and with a portfolio of 250k domains I'm sure he still sells plenty of them!)
 
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