WTF Sedo

[stocks]

First time dealing with Sedo I'm the buyer

I put in an offer on a domain

Seller counter offered

I counter offered back

Then he countered back and I bought it.

Sent sedo the money yesterday and now today the transaction is cancelled because sedo says the seller no longer owns the domain.

I'm guessing theres nore to it becasue of the way the negotiating went

I started out $750

Seller countered with $2800

I came back with $1000

Seller countered with $563

So what I'm wondering is if this guy owned the domain when this started then made a mistake with his $563 bid and then just trasnferred the domain after he reliezed he made the mistake or did he never own the domain in the first place.

Whats your thoughts on this if this guy is still in controll of the domain I would still like to work something out I'm gussing he might of ment to go $1563 and then I would have made $1250 my final offer which probably would have got the job done.

 

[mis_chiff]

Have you checked the whois to see if there has
been any recent changes?

Maybe send an email that way and see if he's still interested.

 

[stocks]

Have you checked the whois to see if there has
been any recent changes?

Maybe send an email that way and see if he's still interested.

I did check no changes although sometimes it takes while to update.

I also emailed hime a couple time last week from the email list in whois so I would'nt have to go through sedo but no reply.

 

[garptrader]

Depending on the size of the seller's portfolio he/she may not have realized the domain was no longer registered to them. Until it came time to do the transfer... If the seller has domains scattered across numerous registrars sometimes they may overlook an upcoming renewal at a registrar where they don't have many domains.

 

[mis_chiff]

To counter lower than the offer - sends up big red flags.

at least "if" it was a scam, you are out of it now, no harm no foul

If it wasn't and you still want the name, I'd do some more digging.

 

[stocks]

To counter lower than the offer - sends up big red flags.

at least "if" it was a scam, you are out of it now, no harm no foul

If it wasn't and you still want the name, I'd do some more digging.

What else can I do apart from look at the whois. I did a search on the name and it looks like he has a face book account same name and same city but I have no idea how facebook works.

 

[mis_chiff]

What else can I do apart from look at the whois. I did a search on the name and it looks like he has a face book account same name and same city but I have no idea how facebook works.

:lol: me neither!

Maybe give it a few days to see if the whois changes or updates,
if it doesn't - try sending another email.

If he doesn't respond, you may have to let it go for now

Isin't there a way to "Contact The Seller" at Sedo?
have you tried that option?

 

[stocks]

:lol: me neither!

Maybe give it a few days to see if the whois changes or updates,
if it doesn't - try sending another email.

If he doesn't respond, you may have to let it go for now

Isin't there a way to "Contact The Seller" at Sedo?
have you tried that option?

LOL looks like we're the only 2 people not on facebook.

Sedo said

Transaction cancelled by Sedo
Sedo had to cancel the transaction because the seller is no longer the owner and has no right to sell the domain. You might want to take a legal action against the seller, therefore we have made his contact data available in your sedo contract.

But so far this sedo contract is a mystery I have no idea where to find it.

 

[gazzip]

There are loads of names listed for sale on Sedo that are not really for sale, maybe the previous owner let it drop or sold it and did'nt remove it from sedo's listing.

Atlantis.com is STILL listed on Sedo, it has been for well over a year and its now had 31 Bids yet they have'nt bothered to remove it.

There's not a chance in hell that Kerzner International Resorts put that up for sale

on the other hand some of my names are taking 3 or more days to get them verified even though the whois records are in my name ...go figure



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[stocks]

I guess I found something in Sedo it says the seller is

Seller:
Philip
United States

But whois says

Registrant:
John
United States

 

[DaSerpent]

Well , probably he just made a mistake by countering with a lower price than the offer made by you .. and so , transferred it to another a/c to correct that mistake . I don't think that he was scamming you as Sedo always checks the ownership of domains that are added to anyone domain portfolio .

You , should sign up at facebook and send him a friend request of a message . His Facebook profiles might have a contact number .

 

[wwwweb]

Not much you can do here, have seen this happen many times with expired domains, legally nothing you can do, since the owner and the party countering offers is not the same, especially for $500 or so, just part of the daily grind of business, best of luck.

 

[mis_chiff]

Sedo always checks the ownership of domains that are added to anyone domain portfolio .
.

Yes they check them when they are added, but then they drop the ball on following up!

The guy who had it originally listed, may have sold it, but did not remove it from their
sedo profile.
Therefore the bid/offer wouldn't stand once Sedo realized it wasn't the same owner/seller.

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I guess I found something in Sedo it says the seller is

Seller:
Phil
Address
But whois says

Registrant:
John
Address

Looks like Phil forgot to remove it from his Sedo account.

It may have already changed hands.

 

[Kate]

Bottom line: before you take an offer, always verify that you still own the domain

 

[MicroGuy]

I came back with $1000

Seller countered with $563

WTF is right.

 

[labrocca]

Maybe he was drunk domaining. It's a serious problem for lonely domainers that sit at home behind a computer all day. Just grab a beer and join in the festival of domaining. Next thing you know you wake up with your mouse in your mouth and an email saying you just registered cj390vnsa3.com at Network Solutions with 10 years payment.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[Archangel]

I just got an account there lol A day or 2 back but I have no intention of ever using it.

Anyway, as said by others in this thread, I'd definitely get an account there, add this guy and send him message that way. In this day of social networking, ppl reply to messages in their myspace/facebook accounts more than standard email.

LOL looks like we're the only 2 people not on facebook.

Sedo said

Transaction cancelled by Sedo
Sedo had to cancel the transaction because the seller is no longer the owner and has no right to sell the domain. You might want to take a legal action against the seller, therefore we have made his contact data available in your sedo contract.

But so far this sedo contract is a mystery I have no idea where to find it.

 

[wussadotcom]

Bottom line: before you take an offer, always verify that you still own the domain

text-link-ads.com which is developed is for sale on sedo. True or false?

 

[godinu]

adding more to what some others have said: yes, Sedo often has things still listed long after a person no longer owns them (usually the item expires/isn't re-regged but the original owner doesn't bother to update their Sedo info).

I once got an offer for something that I hadn't owned for more than a couple years, so Sedo is often way behind. Perhaps the seller either forgot he didn't own it anymore, or was trying to pull a fast one.

 

[matrigaldo]

Well, this thread makes me think about a situation.

Assume i acquire a domain name, call it.. blabla.com . I add it on Sedo, and park there for some months. After a bunch of time, for example, i would monetize part of my portfolio, and put it for sale for, like, $150, on some marketplace different from Sedo. Assume blabla.com is sold for $150 within few days, and then transferred to the new owner (a domainer).
Assume i forget to remove the domain from my Sedo account.

Now, assume i receive an offer of .. $800 for blabla.com, still listed in my Sedo.

Would be ethical contact the current owner and offer him like $300/$400 for blabla.com (maybe using another email), acquire it again and then sell it for $800 on Sedo?

I mean, this is a normal business game, no? It happens daily with stocks, for example.


(For the fans: it happened to me few days ago, but i have declined the offer almost immediately. Did a mistake, i would think about that a little more, but i've been sick, and being at the computer was getting me a huge head ache)