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Would you sell your entire portfolio? How much?

Labeled as discuss in General Domain Discussion started by JudgeMind, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:58 AM.

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  1. Lagunaboy

    Lagunaboy Established Member

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    Well the way it's going id probably sell for 5 bucks the lot 😂
     
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  2. bashariqbal

    bashariqbal Established Member

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    I think it directly depends upon the quality of the portfolio one have and that depends on when you have stated domaining, how much knowledge you have acquired and how much time you have taken while reaching to 1000 domains.
    With passing time a domainer become more mature and would inherently acquire better names. I currently own about 150 names and if I extrapolate from my progress till now as a domainer I would say If some day my portfolio reaches to 1000 domains I would sell it for x millions. And if I would currently own 1000 names I would sell it for way, way more in xx millions.
     
  3. Asfas1000

    Asfas1000 Active Member VIP

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    Well, no matter how you put it, there is always a price point which makes selling your asset worthwhile.

    You may not want to sell for $100 K, but how about $1M ? If not for $1M either, how about $10M ? etc..........
     
  4. wwwweb

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    Portfolios are all over the map, many of the stronger established ones are balanced with a mix of everything like M Berkens, F Schilling, R Schwartz... whereas many people here are very one sided maybe heavy on crypto, or drone, or 3dprinter etc... these fads come, and go. It is those strong one word, two word generic, short brandable, 4L western premium these are the portfolios that are going to stand up in value, and have real money behind it. Those portfolios have a steady income stream, and parking revenue so they can be easier to valuate what comes thru.

    One of the best portfolio buys has been the one A Dicker sold to K O'Brien right before the chips took off, I think it yielded close to $1M in about a year for him off a $100K investment, not entirely sure though, just a rough estimate.

    Majority of domainers are grinders they work their names, sell a good name, and buy a few more with it, and keep building. That foundation once built helps, but putting in a new foundation present day is way to much money. At this point I would advise many to pull the brakes back on the aftermarket a bit, as things are just way to overpriced.
     
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  5. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International VIP

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    Yes, but why someone would buy something which does not generate any income for 1M? Or 10M?

    At the end, you need that positive income to be generated each month. Oherwise it is all just hopes and promises that one day, IF, that sells then, this and that...

    If you have that positive income, no need to sell, you have true asset - and you enjoy your income.

    If you do not have that positive income, you know that very well - you call your domains "assets", while they are in reality just liabilities (renewals), and you are typically looking for a person with lot of money who will believe the story about "unrealised income" .. aka potential financial gains not now (as domains are not liquid), but sometimes in the future, maybe ...

    Nothing against that of course, just stating the obvious :)
     
  6. thedomainster

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    I was actually thinking about this the other day. I feel I have a pretty high quality portfolio, but I would probably accept $500/name for a package deal. I spent more than that for many of my domains individually when I purchased them, but there are also many that I bought at reg fee or close out prices (still good names). The buyer would have to take the whole package.

    I would be sad to see it go, but it would likely take me 10 years to earn that much through sales, and money today is worth more than the prospect of money in the future. Knowing my personality, I would probably end up starting to build a new portfolio right away, and end up spending a lot of the proceeds I got on buying new names that I get excited about.

    I know most of us are small fish to GoDaddy and HugeDomains, but I am actually surprised that they don't have acquisition teams eyeballing and buying out smaller domainer portfolios. On paper aftermarket domain name inventory can add a lot value to these large companies. Perhaps they do this more than I think, and I just haven't been approached...
     
  7. Asfas1000

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    Unless you are getting parking revenue, your income is declining every year, because your portfolio is losing some domains.

    Also...if your portfolio has 1,000 domains and you want $5,000 for each domain (end-user price), wouldn't you take $5M now (1,000 x $5,000) ? That's the max you could ever get from it.
     
  8. Furquah

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    I will sell all of my Netsol name for only $15k.

    Who want to buy?

    Anyone here going to help this poor student?

    Anyone,

    Plzzzzzzz!
     
  9. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    GD does but they buy out big fish like Berkens' portfolio or Namefind.
    If they were to acquire the average domainer portfolio they would be buying liabilities :)
     
  10. wwwweb

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    M Berkens portfolio sold for about $500 each with many strong keyword, and some of the best legal domains in that portfolio among many short 3L.com's, and one keywords like dirty.com etc...
     
  11. Fancy.domains

    Fancy.domains Selling gTLDs like delicious hotcakes Gold Account VIP

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    I would accept $500 per name, if the entire portfolio is sold. Maybe even $400.
     
  12. lolwarrior

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    That is logical, I agree. Except that no one will give you that max price for your names :) But I get your point, there is certainly a theoretical price where you can sell even very nice portfolio.

    Personally, I invest in new gTLDs, and I think their prime time will be in 10-20 years. I am not complaining even today (for me it gets better and better each year) but I see no point to sell portfolio to someone else now, when I expect huge growth of value in future . Would I invest in something else, I would strongly consider wholesale portfolio sale, but not in this situation.
     
  13. wwwweb

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    When Godaddy bought M Berkens portfolio they passed on the GTLD's in the portfolio, and he had some of the better ones as he got them in EAP, and he knew his keyword combos well. The GTLD ticket is not punched, even .club announced a price increase today, and they have been pretty stable. Until the contract, and ownership settles, GTLD's are always a wildcard in a portfolio purchase as they have a lower sell thru rate, and higher renewals.
     
  14. NonHipster

    NonHipster Established Member

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    Of course and why not? Price is to be determined with buyer but reasonable wholesale prices for entire portfolio of domains.
     
  15. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International VIP

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    I guess I am reading same sources on internet as you ..I am informed about that. I do not care much about what some particular registry is doing :)

    One thing is incorrect in your statement though: new gTLDs does not have in many cases higher renewals comparing to legact domain names. Anyone can read thread I started here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-gtlds-renew-or-drop-advice-thread.1110552/
    where renewal fees are mandatory in posts, so everyone can learn what renewal rates are possible in new gTLD space (if you do that correctly and with information).
     
  16. Ryan3

    Ryan3 Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    Excluding my favourites, I'd sell the rest of my portfolio together for the $500 each option.
    But I'm only selling about 250 domains.
    If I had 1,000 domains for sale I'd probably take the $250 each option.

    Are you looking for a portfolio to buy?
     
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  17. Kpett

    Kpett Established Member

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    After having over 300 names in my portfolio over a year ago, I've only registered select names over the past year or so while selling many of my domains - some to end users, many here on NP, (and some I just let expire) in order to trim down my portfolio below 100. With more sales I'm now at 75 and have a manageable portfolio of (mostly) very good names. If someone offered me $75K for all of them I would consider it.

    I won't even begin to add up all of the hours I've spent in domaining ... it's less than minimum wage, that's for sure!
     
  18. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP

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    Whether I would consider selling all at once would depend on how much I enjoy domains and find them interesting and challenging. If that waned I would probably sell all cheap to move on.

    Even if still was staying in domaining there is always some price each of us would sell at. If for everything in my portfolio probably about $125 per domain for me.

    Thanks for the interesting thread everyone!

    Bob
     
  19. wwwweb

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    You are right most domainers work for less than their geo min wage once they really add up how much time, and expenses they have into it. That is why many people from overseas have been able to thrive in this industry. We are seeing more call centers being turned into spam centers as a $400 sale would not do much for you, but for others it is a good months salary.

    The people that have the money to buy portfolios are extremely selective.
     
  20. lock

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    My portfolio is a monopoly if I sell it together. However I would consider an early retirement $xxxxxxx Most portfolios are worth less as a whole but with mine many names compliment the next.
     
  21. rlm

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    No offense but this thread kinda seems pointless since of course everyone has some price they'd sell out at. Without seeing the quality of domains it all means nothing.

    I've personally had decent luck buying smaller portfolios. I also once sold a large chunk of my portfolio (~ 5000 lower quality domains) - and then turned around and reinvested a chunk back into a smaller portfolio of premium quality domains which also turned out really well.

    Anyone who thinks they actually want to sell out, go ahead and post a link to your portfolio. Anyone interested can make you an offer - who knows, maybe someone will cash out right here! That would be interesting to see!
     
  22. Alexaa

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    I would ask for $1000 for all my domains and quit domaining 😂
     
  23. rlm

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    Someone went on a boxing day shopping spree! :)
     
  24. lolwarrior

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  25. ak1985

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    Anyone can check out my domain portfolio and tell me how much they can pay for all the domains listed.:xf.grin:
     

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