discuss Would you sell your entire portfolio? How much?

[JudgeMind]

let’s say your portfolio size was 1000 domain names.

Would you sell for regfee$10 each? $10,000

Would you sell for $25 each? $25,000

Would you sell for $100 each? $100,000

Would you sell for $250 each? $250,000

Would you sell for $500 each? $500,000

Whats the least you’d sell your entire portfolio for?

This is a tough decision to make. Obviously everyone’s portfolios are valued differently and everyone has certain domains in their portfolio they wouldn’t want to include.

Would you turn down $100,000 offer?

 

[bmugford]

So basically you are saying what I am saying, but in another words

Asset vs burden...

if you have asset no need to sell it

if you have burden you try to sel it...

Many people do not understand what asset (as financial term) really is...gold, which is sitting in the bank and do not bring you any money, is not an asset...actually, you probably pay some small fee to bank for security box each month...so money are flowing from you wallet, not to your wallet in case of gold ...

If that is the case I would be more than happy to take the burden of owning the gold of someone's hands, so they can avoid the small bank fee.

Some assets have an associated cost of maintenance with them. Keeping gold at a bank is for security reasons. You could just as easily keep it at home without the bank fee, but it is a risk/reward determination.

All your are talking about here is an unrealized vs realized income. Gold is highly liquid and easy to sell.
It can be liquidated at any time. It is clearly an asset.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

If you own apartment, and you do not rent it, you only pay monthly fees...it is an burden
If you own apartment, and you do rent it, and rent is more then monthly fees you pay...it is an asset

This is also not necessarily the case either. You can be in a position where you own an apartment and are just breaking even, or even losing a small amount of money per month, but it can be an asset because the renter is essentially building equity for you. It is just an asset with a longer maturity date.

Brad

 

[Brands.International]

If that is the case I would be more than happy to take the burden of owning the gold of someone's hands, so they can avoid the small bank fee.

Some assets have an associated cost of maintenance with them. Keeping gold at a bank is for security reasons. You could just as easily keep it at home without the bank fee, but it is a risk/reward determination.

All your are talking about here is an unrealized vs realized income. Gold is highly liquid and easy to sell.
It can be liquidated at any time. It is clearly an asset.

Brad

Lol, I would also like to take burden of owning gold of someone's hands, no doubt about it

To be very clear: for me, assets is a anything, which (without selling/liquidating this asset) brings me some income every month. It means, money are flowing to my wallet/bank account, not from my wallet/bank account.

If we stick to above definition, gold is not an asset, as gold is not bringing you some income every month, without beying sold/liquidated. It is a neutral thing, or it can be small burden, in case you need to pay montly fees to the bank in order to store it there.

One should really understand what asset is, it makes one's life much easier.

 

[DomainsMaven]

I am willing to sell mine for $100,000

955 domains ---- 1800web.com

What do you guys think?

Thanks for your feedback.

 

[bmugford]

Lol, I would also like to take burden of owning gold of someone's hands, no doubt about it

To be very clear: for me, assets is a anything, which (without selling/liquidating this asset) brings me some income every month. It means, money are flowing to my wallet/bank account, not from my wallet/bank account.

If we stick to above definition, gold is not an asset, as gold is not bringing you some income every month, without beying sold/liquidated. It is a neutral thing, or it can be small burden, in case you need to pay montly fees to the bank in order to store it there.

One should really understand what asset is, it makes one's life much easier.

Right, but that is not the definition of an asset. It might be your personal definition, but there is no requirement that an asset provides a monthly income. An asset is just something which has value.

If I buy something for $10K and the value goes up to $50K. That is an unrealized gain.
If I buy something for $50K and it goes down in value to $30K. That is an unrealized loss.

Either way, in both situations the underlying something is an asset, as it is something which has value.

Brad

 

[Laguna]

Well the way it's going id probably sell for 5 bucks the lot

 

[bashariqbal]

I think it directly depends upon the quality of the portfolio one have and that depends on when you have stated domaining, how much knowledge you have acquired and how much time you have taken while reaching to 1000 domains.
With passing time a domainer become more mature and would inherently acquire better names. I currently own about 150 names and if I extrapolate from my progress till now as a domainer I would say If some day my portfolio reaches to 1000 domains I would sell it for x millions. And if I would currently own 1000 names I would sell it for way, way more in xx millions.

 

[Asfas1000]

Asset vs burden...

if you have asset no need to sell it

if you have burden you try to sel it..

Well, no matter how you put it, there is always a price point which makes selling your asset worthwhile.

You may not want to sell for $100 K, but how about $1M ? If not for $1M either, how about $10M ? etc..........

 

[wwwweb]

Portfolios are all over the map, many of the stronger established ones are balanced with a mix of everything like M Berkens, F Schilling, R Schwartz... whereas many people here are very one sided maybe heavy on crypto, or drone, or 3dprinter etc... these fads come, and go. It is those strong one word, two word generic, short brandable, 4L western premium these are the portfolios that are going to stand up in value, and have real money behind it. Those portfolios have a steady income stream, and parking revenue so they can be easier to valuate what comes thru.

One of the best portfolio buys has been the one A Dicker sold to K O'Brien right before the chips took off, I think it yielded close to $1M in about a year for him off a $100K investment, not entirely sure though, just a rough estimate.

Majority of domainers are grinders they work their names, sell a good name, and buy a few more with it, and keep building. That foundation once built helps, but putting in a new foundation present day is way to much money. At this point I would advise many to pull the brakes back on the aftermarket a bit, as things are just way to overpriced.

 

[Brands.International]

Well, no matter how you put it, there is always a price point which makes selling your asset worthwhile.

You may not want to sell for $100 K, but how about $1M ? If not for $1M either, how about $10M ? etc..........

Yes, but why someone would buy something which does not generate any income for 1M? Or 10M?

At the end, you need that positive income to be generated each month. Oherwise it is all just hopes and promises that one day, IF, that sells then, this and that...

If you have that positive income, no need to sell, you have true asset - and you enjoy your income.

If you do not have that positive income, you know that very well - you call your domains "assets", while they are in reality just liabilities (renewals), and you are typically looking for a person with lot of money who will believe the story about "unrealised income" .. aka potential financial gains not now (as domains are not liquid), but sometimes in the future, maybe ...

Nothing against that of course, just stating the obvious

 

[DigiNames]

I was actually thinking about this the other day. I feel I have a pretty high quality portfolio, but I would probably accept $500/name for a package deal. I spent more than that for many of my domains individually when I purchased them, but there are also many that I bought at reg fee or close out prices (still good names). The buyer would have to take the whole package.

I would be sad to see it go, but it would likely take me 10 years to earn that much through sales, and money today is worth more than the prospect of money in the future. Knowing my personality, I would probably end up starting to build a new portfolio right away, and end up spending a lot of the proceeds I got on buying new names that I get excited about.

I know most of us are small fish to GoDaddy and HugeDomains, but I am actually surprised that they don't have acquisition teams eyeballing and buying out smaller domainer portfolios. On paper aftermarket domain name inventory can add a lot value to these large companies. Perhaps they do this more than I think, and I just haven't been approached...

 

[Asfas1000]

Yes, but why someone would buy something which does not generate any income for 1M? Or 10M?

Unless you are getting parking revenue, your income is declining every year, because your portfolio is losing some domains.

Also...if your portfolio has 1,000 domains and you want $5,000 for each domain (end-user price), wouldn't you take $5M now (1,000 x $5,000) ? That's the max you could ever get from it.

 

[Furquan]

I will sell all of my Netsol name for only $15k.

Who want to buy?

Anyone here going to help this poor student?

Anyone,

Plzzzzzzz!

 

[Kate]

I know most of us are small fish to GoDaddy and HugeDomains, but I am actually surprised that they don't have acquisition teams eyeballing and buying out smaller domainer portfolios. On paper aftermarket domain name inventory can add a lot value to these large companies. Perhaps they do this more than I think, and I just haven't been approached...

GD does but they buy out big fish like Berkens' portfolio or Namefind.
If they were to acquire the average domainer portfolio they would be buying liabilities

 

[wwwweb]

I was actually thinking about this the other day. I feel I have a pretty high quality portfolio, but I would probably accept $500/name for a package deal. I spent more than that for many of my domains individually when I purchased them, but there are also many that I bought at reg fee or close out prices (still good names). The buyer would have to take the whole package.

I would be sad to see it go, but it would likely take me 10 years to earn that much through sales, and money today is worth more than the prospect of money in the future. Knowing my personality, I would probably end up starting to build a new portfolio right away, and end up spending a lot of the proceeds I got on buying new names that I get excited about.

I know most of us are small fish to GoDaddy and HugeDomains, but I am actually surprised that they don't have acquisition teams eyeballing and buying out smaller domainer portfolios. On paper aftermarket domain name inventory can add a lot value to these large companies. Perhaps they do this more than I think, and I just haven't been approached...

M Berkens portfolio sold for about $500 each with many strong keyword, and some of the best legal domains in that portfolio among many short 3L.com's, and one keywords like dirty.com etc...

 

[Fancy.domains]

I would accept $500 per name, if the entire portfolio is sold. Maybe even $400.

 

[Brands.International]

Unless you are getting parking revenue, your income is declining every year, because your portfolio is losing some domains.

Also...if your portfolio has 1,000 domains and you want $5,000 for each domain (end-user price), wouldn't you take $5M now (1,000 x $5,000) ? That's the max you could ever get from it.

That is logical, I agree. Except that no one will give you that max price for your names But I get your point, there is certainly a theoretical price where you can sell even very nice portfolio.

Personally, I invest in new gTLDs, and I think their prime time will be in 10-20 years. I am not complaining even today (for me it gets better and better each year) but I see no point to sell portfolio to someone else now, when I expect huge growth of value in future . Would I invest in something else, I would strongly consider wholesale portfolio sale, but not in this situation.

 

[wwwweb]

That is logical, I agree. Except that no one will give you that max price for your names But I get your point, there is certainly a theoretical price where you can sell even very nice portfolio.

Personally, I invest in new gTLDs, and I think their prime time will be in 10-20 years. I am not complaining even today (for me it gets better and better each year) but I see no point to sell portfolio to someone else now, when I expect huge growth of value in future . Would I invest in something else, I would strongly consider wholesale portfolio sale, but not in this situation.

When Godaddy bought M Berkens portfolio they passed on the GTLD's in the portfolio, and he had some of the better ones as he got them in EAP, and he knew his keyword combos well. The GTLD ticket is not punched, even .club announced a price increase today, and they have been pretty stable. Until the contract, and ownership settles, GTLD's are always a wildcard in a portfolio purchase as they have a lower sell thru rate, and higher renewals.

 

[NonHipster]

Of course and why not? Price is to be determined with buyer but reasonable wholesale prices for entire portfolio of domains.

 

[Brands.International]

When Godaddy bought M Berkens portfolio they passed on the GTLD's in the portfolio, and he had some of the better ones as he got them in EAP, and he knew his keyword combos well. The GTLD ticket is not punched, even .club announced a price increase today, and they have been pretty stable. Until the contract, and ownership settles, GTLD's are always a wildcard in a portfolio purchase as they have a lower sell thru rate, and higher renewals.

I guess I am reading same sources on internet as you ..I am informed about that. I do not care much about what some particular registry is doing

One thing is incorrect in your statement though: new gTLDs does not have in many cases higher renewals comparing to legact domain names. Anyone can read thread I started here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-gtlds-renew-or-drop-advice-thread.1110552/
where renewal fees are mandatory in posts, so everyone can learn what renewal rates are possible in new gTLD space (if you do that correctly and with information).