Will dot Biz ever mature?

[Kenny]

Hello Mods & Mems,

This is a list of the top 100 reported dot Biz sales in the last 6 months.

My question is will dot biz ever be considered more than the stepchild of TLD's?

Mortgages.biz
$15,000 2007-08-08 Moniker/ T.R.A.F.F.I.C.
moving.biz
$9,310 2007-01-28 Sedo
traffic.biz
$8,000 2007-01-30 AfterNic
crm.biz
$7,797 2007-01-05 Sedo
CRM.biz
$7,796 2007-01-10 Sedo
celebrity.biz
$6,700 2007-06-26 Sedo
Celebrity.biz
$6,700 2007-08-08 Sedo
gratishost.biz
$6,585 2006-12-01 TDNAM
WhitePages.biz
$4,995 2005-06-27 Afternic
Greetings.biz
$4,555 2007-03-13 Sedo
investment.biz
$4,200 2007-01-25 Sedo
Buy.biz
$4,000 2006-04-25 Afternic
Unity.biz
$4,000 2007-03-13 Sedo
Oceanside.biz
$3,950 2007-08-22 Sedo
Arthur.biz
$3,861 2007-03-21 Sedo
CarInsurance.biz
$3,801 2007-05-09 SnapNames
gold.biz
$3,700 2007-05-11 Sedo
Alice.biz
$3,634 2006-01-10 Sedo
generics.biz
$3,600 2007-01-12 Sedo
advent.biz
$3,500 2007-02-20 AfterNic
MediaShop.biz
$3,364 2007-06-27 Sedo
abc.biz
$3,100 2007-02-15 Sedo
Gold.biz
$3,000 2006-07-04 NamePros
Foreclosure.biz
$3,000 2007-04-25 Moniker
granit.biz
$2,926 2007-02-19 Sedo
WireFly.biz
$2,735 2005-07-08 Afternic
hostgratis.biz
$2,685 2006-12-01 TDNAM
irland.biz
$2,660 2007-02-09 Sedo
fahrrad.biz
$2,660 2007-04-27 Sedo
Beer.biz
$2,500 2006-02-28 Pool
PartyBackgammon.biz
$2,500 2006-03-14 Sedo
Ozone.biz
$2,438 2006-03-21 Sedo
Mediation.biz
$2,409 2006-03-07 Sedo
Bake.biz
$2,409 2006-03-07 Sedo
Blockhдuser.biz
$2,406 2006-02-07 Sedo
eBooks.biz
$2,135 2006-01-17 Sedo
Turnaround.biz
$2,088 2007-03-13 Sedo
Brasil.biz
$2,050 2006-05-16 Pool
IdahoFalls.biz
$2,050 2007-05-23 Sedo
Only.biz
$2,000 2007-01-04 Sedo
wap.biz
$2,000 2007-01-17 Sedo
HDTV.biz
$2,000 2007-07-18 SnapNames
lsa.biz
$1,800 2007-06-06 AfterNic
tshirts.biz
$1,700 2007-04-17 Sedo
kostenlos.biz
$1,596 2007-06-28 Sedo
HOOPLA.biz
$1,551 2006-10-11 Afternic
HOOPLA.biz
$1,550 2006-10-10 Afternic
dry.biz
$1,550 2007-03-21 Sedo
HOOPLA.biz
$1,549 2006-10-09 Afternic
ebook.biz
$1,510 2007-03-19 Sedo
kane.biz
$1,500 2005-05-20 Afternic
mesothelioma.biz
$1,500 2007-07-05 Sedo
Affiliate.biz
$1,400 2004-11-04 Afternic
kreditkarte.biz
$1,330 2007-02-08 Sedo
recruiting.biz
$1,314 2007-02-13 Sedo
FRESHFLOWERS.biz
$1,300 2005-10-26 Afternic
AMBITIONS.biz
$1,252 2006-08-30 Afternic
AMBITIONS.biz
$1,251 2006-08-29 Afternic
Lending.biz
$1,250 2005-01-19 Afternic
AMBITIONS.biz
$1,250 2006-08-28 Afternic
kauai.biz
$1,250 2007-02-25 Sedo
mytop100.biz
$1,215 2007-01-18 TDNAM
maid.biz
$1,100 2007-01-08 Sedo
schmuck.biz
$1,064 2007-07-18 Sedo
anson.biz
$1,000 2004-10-25 Afternic
plexus.biz
$1,000 2007-05-25 AfterNic
schuhe.biz
$998 2007-02-16 Sedo
koeln.biz
$952 2007-02-27 Sedo
BulkCandy.biz
$950 2005-10-21 Afternic
businesstalk.biz
$950 2007-03-11 Sedo
gardner.biz
$945 2007-05-15 AfterNic
president.biz
$940 2007-06-13 Sedo
werbeartikel.biz
$931 2007-03-15 Sedo
handwerker.biz
$931 2007-04-19 Sedo
eindustry.biz
$931 2007-06-01 Sedo
sheppards.biz
$900 2005-04-27 Afternic
picnic.biz
$891 2007-07-18 Sedo
hammer.biz
$851 2007-02-19 Sedo
relocation.biz
$850 2007-01-11 Sedo
MYRESUME.biz
$849 2007-01-22 Afternic
DOODLE.biz
$842 2006-12-20 Afternic
pcsite.biz
$820 2007-01-02 TDNAM
postagemeters.biz
$800 2006-12-22 Sedo
lourdes.biz
$798 2007-01-31 Sedo
aware.biz
$798 2007-02-10 Sedo
wasser.biz
$774 2006-12-24 Sedo
bookmakers.biz
$679 2006-12-30 Sedo
smd.biz
$665 2007-03-06 Sedo
datingguide.biz
$665 2007-03-09 Sedo
trainings.biz
$665 2007-04-29 Sedo
sanierung.biz
$665 2007-06-14 Sedo
lux.biz
$660 2007-07-18 Sedo
futurestore.biz
$612 2007-01-13 Sedo
Lumina.biz
$600 2007-01-18 Sedo
hookah.biz
$600 2007-04-08 Sedo
stephen.biz
$600 2007-04-12 Sedo
routenplaner.biz
$599 2007-07-05 Sedo
stripdate.biz
$559 2007-05-28 Sedo
musterdepot.biz
$532 2007-02-07 Sedo
ware.biz
$530 2004-12-22 Afternic

Source:
http://namebio.com

Cy

 

[wot]

I think you will find that .biz will mature outside of the standard ASCII domains with idn.biz coming to the fore.

There are huge limitiations for idn, limited to cctld , com/net/org/info. All other extensions that may support IDN are cctlds, eg .nu (thus value would be reduced).

The .biz registry has been smart to move in to IDN.biz with recent releases of Chinese.biz, Japanese.biz and this week Korean.biz.

Love em or hate em, idn's are here to stay and will only grow in stature. I think idn.biz will take a significant place in the market.

Apparently .asia / .mobi will go IDN in the not too distant future. I personally do not see much use for ascii/idn.asia ( major keywords excepted) and idn.mobi may well be a difficult one particularly for non romaniz/sed characters.

If any of what I forsee occurs then .biz ascii will benefit also. JMO

 

[Kate]

I don't think the TLD has any future.

.biz has hardly been successful (when compared to .info for example).
Sure there are enough registrations to make the registry viable economically. That does not mean the TLD has won the hearts and minds of consumers.

I also think .biz will continue to suffer just like .net from the fact that the ccTLDs have been rising. Of course .biz is a global (generic) TLD but not every business is trading globally.
I would even predict a large shift from .biz to .us by US businesses.

It's an odd TLD like .mobi, with a raison d'être that is dubious at best. IMHO .biz is best forgotten.

 

[Coastalguy]

It's too far behind and not enough horsepower to catch up.

ST

 

[Badger]

Will dot Biz ever mature?

Almost philisophical K.. I think its reached maturity right now. Maturity in so much that it has a relative percentage benchmark to the .com equivilent, thats unlikely to shift.

Other philisophical musings:

Will a boy ever be born that can swim faster than a shark?
Could you kill a tiger armed only with a biro pen?
If a hard-on falls in a forest and no-ones around, do you go blind?

Well, it is Friday..

 

[mwzd]

As far as I am concerned the only reason I turned to .biz was that certain words were available that I wanted and were not in .com/.net at the time. And it was a BIG mistake, .biz really sucked for me.There were of course, only 6 TLDs at the time. Though if it did not take off even then, it's doubtful now with 200+ options.

Will a boy ever be born that can swim faster than a shark?

Nope.

Could you kill a tiger armed only with a biro pen?

Probably. Though then you'd be a poacher...

If a hard-on falls in a forest and no-ones around, do you go blind?

Now this is unanswerable... roflmao.

 

[Pred]

think if you can get good keywords cheap, & plan on developing then can be a good option

 

[Coastalguy]

Plenty of .biz names out there.

ST

 

[budgetname]

I think if I wanted a better domain for my business or company, and didn't want to pay a small fortune for it, then .biz is the way to go.

Relevant extension. More relevant than .net, .org, .info etc.
Most names available for a small fee.
Quality back end support.
Avoids long, hard to remember dot com name, like "AreaBusinessName.com" if that is even available

 

[000]

IMHO, no. It's too late. The public will always view it as a lesser alternative for those that missed out on the .com...the public has already settled on .com for commercial purposes, so where exactly does .biz fit in?

 

[tricolorro]

never mind

 

[Spade]

I agree with Tom.

I think it is too late to make much of the .biz TLD. The problem is with .biz, its in direct competition with .com - Unlike .org or even .info to a lesser extend, these TLD's have atleast on face value, different site criteria. Although we as domainers recognize plenty of commercial sites built on net/info/org/ec.

Now, the problem I keep running into is that traditional business, has set there teeth firmly into .com. You'll find few top companies advertising there sites on anything but .com (unless its non-profit). The issue here is the consumer. As a consumer, even a saavier consumer, is commonly away of other gTLDs and ccTLDs, but the issues are that trust has never been built into them. How many consumers visit .biz sites? Not many. And because big business continues to solidify .com as the STANDARD. I believe that any other TLD which competes, is doomed to live in the basement, in a place where the average consumer is left to wonder about its integrity.

Justin

 

[nicedomains]

I also think .biz will continue to suffer just like .net from the fact that the ccTLDs have been rising. Of course .biz is a global (generic) TLD but not every business is trading globally.
I would even predict a large shift from .biz to .us by US businesses.

I think this is a good analysis. I would like to think the .biz extension would gain a little value in end users eyes, but with easy to find .us and other cctld alternatives it seems unlikely. An indicator of this is that most of the .biz names listed on the top sales this year are NOT being utilized by large websites/corps. Also MANY on this list are only being used as PPC revenue pages right now..

 

[seeker]

I don't think the TLD has any future.

.biz has hardly been successful (when compared to .info for example).
Sure there are enough registrations to make the registry viable economically. That does not mean the TLD has won the hearts and minds of consumers.

I also think .biz will continue to suffer just like .net from the fact that the ccTLDs have been rising. Of course .biz is a global (generic) TLD but not every business is trading globally.
I would even predict a large shift from .biz to .us by US businesses.

It's an odd TLD like .mobi, with a raison d'être that is dubious at best. IMHO .biz is best forgotten.

Thats absolutely absurd.
The .biz TLD has a future, and is rising, although slowly.
Heck its doing better than .eu, which still is in its infancy, and might even have a chance.
.net is suffering in your opinion from ccTLDs?
I'd like to see that backed up.
as for predictions, I prefer facts, so the 'shift' from .biz to .us is a rather interesting *prediction*
Your opinion is respected, at least by me, but it is just an opinion, as mine is.
However, I do reguraly sell .biz domains in the high $xxx to low $xxxx range.
.Biz is indeed a strange animal. Loved by searched engines, hated by domainers, yet admired by many lower budget *businesses*.
It does terribly in forums (for reselling) yet pretty well in direct sales with end users.

 

[Spade]

I do reguraly sell .biz domains in the high $xxx to low $xxxx range.

I might recommend sending them over to me. I'll update NameBio with your sales data and perhaps it will shed a little more light on this "budget business" TLD.

Justin

 

[seeker]

I do not make a habit of sending data of enduser sales anywhere.
If anything, I would have send them to Duke at DNjournal, a person I have dealt with since 2003.
But if it this info might help you, I will consider sending data over to you.

 

[Kenny]

I do not make a habit of sending data of enduser sales anywhere.
If anything, I would have send them to Duke at DNjournal, a person I have dealt with since 2003.
But if it this info might help you, I will consider sending data over to you.

Hi Seeker,
Spade owns Namebio, which is where I got the information I posted in the Thread Starter.
Inclusion of documented pvt sales would greatly increase the search results, which would help us all in the long run.

I totally understand your stance about not broadcasting your sales, I dont either. For several reasons, not the least of which is to protect the buyer.

Perhaps you could share some of your methods for reaching endusers, but I wouldn't blame you for keeping them to yourself.

Thanks for some positive light on this ext.

Cyberian

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

IMHO, no. It's too late. The public will always view it as a lesser alternative for those that missed out on the .com...the public has already settled on .com for commercial purposes, so where exactly does .biz fit in?

That's the problem. dotcom only has so many names that can be registered, just as any tld does. And most of them are gone (that have any worth). So where does that leave the rest of the world? Only a very, very, very small percentage of brick and mortar businesses have things setup for the web. Not to mention the regular Joe that may want a site for whatever purpose. What about the new businesses that are popping up everyday? How do they get their online business needs met? This is where the dotcom craze has its limits. It is only viable up to a certain point. It cannot be everything to everybody as there's not enough to go around, this is the major downfall.

I think that sooner rather than later, more and more people will resort to other tlds in a serious way. They will have no choice. I think .biz can be useful in certain situations, and it doesn't hurt that most people already know about the extension. Only time will tell which ones will rise up to be the cream of the [new] crop.

 

[Carlton]

That's the problem. dotcom only has so many names that can be registered, just as any tld does. And most of them are gone (that have any worth). So where does that leave the rest of the world? Only a very, very, very small percentage of brick and mortar businesses have things setup for the web. Not to mention the regular Joe that may want a site for whatever purpose. What about the new businesses that are popping up everyday? How do they get their online business needs met? This is where the dotcom craze has its limits. It is only viable up to a certain point. It cannot be everything to everybody as there's not enough to go around, this is the major downfall.

I think that sooner rather than later, more and more people will resort to other tlds in a serious way. They will have no choice. I think .biz can be useful in certain situations, and it doesn't hurt that most people already know about the extension. Only time will tell which ones will rise up to be the cream of the [new] crop.

Excellent reasoning, and some objective realism. Good post.

 

[Sam]

That's the problem. dotcom only has so many names that can be registered, just as any tld does. And most of them are gone (that have any worth). So where does that leave the rest of the world? Only a very, very, very small percentage of brick and mortar businesses have things setup for the web. Not to mention the regular Joe that may want a site for whatever purpose. What about the new businesses that are popping up everyday? How do they get their online business needs met? This is where the dotcom craze has its limits. It is only viable up to a certain point. It cannot be everything to everybody as there's not enough to go around, this is the major downfall.

I think that sooner rather than later, more and more people will resort to other tlds in a serious way. They will have no choice. I think .biz can be useful in certain situations, and it doesn't hurt that most people already know about the extension. Only time will tell which ones will rise up to be the cream of the [new] crop.

Nay. Then they go to their Home Country's TLD, then .org / .net. .BIZ is a big failure JMO.