opinion Why park? When you can (maybe) make more money w/ one of these?

[WhoaDomain.com]

Hey NP,

me again! I'd like to get your opinion! I see you all complaining about the poor performance of your parking companies. I never see any parking company with a 100% satisfaction and even then some will say their parking company is "great" but they themselves know every now and then the profits (the bottomline) seem "lacking".

Why not take full control of your profit? let's be honest. Parking Companies are "middle men" between you and the actual ad companies who pay. yea sure they provide you the convenience of creating a "money making landing page" with a bunch of generic automated links.

There has to be a better way yes?

Especially when from what I hear. Domain Parking actually hurts your domain's value in the long run. ( can someone confirm this?) Something about Google recognizes Parked Pages easily and once it does gives it a bad rank and not just Google. Maybe Alexa? or Moz? (anyone care to comment?)



Well seems like people have found this "better way" a long time ago. I've seen them all over the place. have you?

here's some examples (These aren't mine) I'm going to just screenshot for sake of show and plus don't want to give these sites free backlinks from here. lol ain't I stinker? lol

and at the bottom of the page you have this stuff.

you find sites like this shown via links from MGID on pretty much at the bottom of all Torrent sites on the net.

why iaren't more domainers going for something like this instead of the usual parking pages??

1. is it hard? too much work?
2. is it expensive?
3. is it bad or worse than parking you domain in terms of Rankings?
4. does it make equal or less than you would with parking which is less work?
5. are there any unforeseen issues with creating such sites that would cancel out the potential "upside" to such sites?

Seems like sites like this benefit from companies like

MGID
RevContent
Content(.ad)
Outbrain
Taboola



and a bunch of other similar companies that provide something called.

In content ads. Ads that look like content but are just full blown ads the are made to look like "news worthy" articles.


anyways. looking forward to your comments. thanks.

 

[Tia Wood]

There is so much to say here. First, let me quickly tell you my background. I have been a web developer for over 17 years. I have worked exclusively with domainers since about 2005. I say this because I have seen a lot as far as parking alternatives and what domainers have tried to do.

First, I am going to directly reply to several things posted:

I mean create a site like this? pay about $200 to do a Press Release that gets on 430K ranked PR and Article sites including Google news. now you have a money making domain earning you 10,000% more than any parking page ever will.

IF you are going to do something like this, start out as small as possible and test your theory first. Don't get hung up on the could bes and "potential" which really amounts to nothing unless you have some solid, proven numbers to back it up. Test first and test small.

thanks. so "how hard" would it be to create such a site? got any skills? I'd be interested. PM ME.

"How hard?" in development is such a hard question to answer. Basically it boils down to how much money, time and effort you are willing to put in. As an example, you can purchase a PHP script or landing page at Envato and have it up and running in 5 minutes. Same thing with WordPress. Rule of thumb: the more money, time and effort you put in, the more money you make. "How hard?" isn't really the right question. "How much effort?" is more like it.

If someone (read developer), could come up with something like this, and make it affordable, I think it will take off big time!

I have too many of my own projects going on at the moment but, again, look through Envato and WordPress. WordPress is definitly worth learning for a domainer. Lots of free themes and plugins available to get you running in no time.

• Plugins: https://wordpress.org/plugins/
• Themes: https://wordpress.org/themes/
  
• and here is a getting started guide: https://codex.wordpress.org/New_To_WordPress_-_Where_to_Start

mass producing sites like these were attempted before, ala MFA = made for adsens. in a copy-cat world ......the issue will always be "uniqueness"

Biggie has been around awhile and people like him and I have seen just about everything under the sun. He is right. This is similar to MFA sites and minisites. They didn't work. Users aren't stupid. Google isn't stupid.

Ya we discuss this a lot in chat lately. Google killed these 'cookie cutter' (minisites) long ago. You need unique content more than ever. Don't expect to use a brandable on a minisite and make anything easy. You need strong EMD + some unique content + backlink profile to get any google love...the easy way.

Actually, I am familiar with quite a few one word dot coms owned by domainers who put up unique, regular content and still fail monetizing these sites. There's a lot of reasons why that I won't get into but will add more at the end of this thread.

I suppose if you have a domain that's bringing in huge amounts of direct type-in traffic then search ranking don't matter. Just as long as there are no black marks put against the domain.

I agree but why miss out on search traffic? Not just search traffic but social network traffic as well? Why bother going through the effort just for type-in traffic? Might as well stick with parking.

Year well I'm lazy with no web design skills. So......much harder for me. But there has to be some easier way to do this. Surprised no one as if yet has created a solution to make it easy.

Go to WordPress.org and learn as much as possible. You'll be building sites in no time.

Why not take full control of your profit? let's be honest. Parking Companies are "middle men" between you and the actual ad companies who pay. yea sure they provide you the convenience of creating a "money making landing page" with a bunch of generic automated links.

There has to be a better way yes?

There is a better way. In my experience, there isn't much beside development that has the better chance of succeeding beside parking. BUT you have to be very selective with what you choose to develop as you will be spending time, money and efforts. You should look at this part as running a business because it basically is. IF you were to put that much effort into it then it would be a great alternative to parking. Develop out your top domain first and focus soley on that. Then on to the next. Focus on one at a time.

Otherwise, please don't waste your efforts and money chasing something that has been proven to not be as lucrative as one hopes.

 

[biggie]

we all know the more work you put in, the more you get out

but hosting, content gathering, etc is all work

parking is much easier


imo...

 

[biggie]

mass producing sites like these were attempted before, ala MFA = made for adsense


in a copy-cat world ......the issue will always be "uniqueness"

but Good Luck!

 

[biggie]

well I'm lazy with no web design skills.

So......much harder for me.

But there has to be some easier way to do this. Surprised no one as if yet has created a solution to make it easy.

Hi

your thoughts are too clogged to find a clear path.

but it may not be all your fault.

the game has changed a lot over the years and there's more "bull-sugarty" being circulated to filter out, than there is truth, to take in.

still, you admit to being lazy and profess that there has to be an easier way.
and.... you're surprised that no one else has created a solution for you, to be successful, without putting in any work.

the easiest thing a domainer can do, is buy a domain name and park it

but it's a little harder to buy domains that will actually earn money from ppc


imo.....

 

[enlytend]

Something about Google recognizes Parked Pages easily and once it does gives it a bad rank and not just Google. Maybe Alexa? or Moz? (anyone care to comment?)

They won't rank parked pages while the domain is parked. Once you use it, they will crawl, reindex, and make changes accordingly.

here's some examples (These aren't mine) I'm going to just screenshot for sake of show and plus don't want to give these sites free backlinks from here. lol ain't I stinker? lol

NP links are nofollowed. You aren't giving them squat.

next. paste your "created content" on your mini site. dead center surrounded by all those in content ads.

Good advertisers are particular about the value they get from their ads. (BTW, that's also why parking and Adsense often pay poorly - better advertisers are selective about where their ads appear.)
What advertiser would want to appear on a site with no unique quality?

You're looking for shortcuts, but as said earlier:

we all know the more work you put in, the more you get out

but hosting, content gathering, etc is all work

parking is much easier

 

[enlytend]

I think perhaps contacting thee owner of the article and requesting a backlink from them to the site where you've placed their article might help with this Google problem seeing this as duplicate content? maybe? I don't know.

They won't link to YOU for posting their article. And that won't make it any less duplication of their content.

Using content from other sites -
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2721312?hl=en

I agree with uniqueness. most of these sites are Cookie cutter-ish.

but name any parking page that isn't? yea millions of domains use them and that seems to be "Acceptable"?

Parked pages are a special case. They're not shown in search and you need to meet certain criteria and terms of use to use their parking ad feed.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

what I like about ads from these "in content ad" companies is that they look so damn "compelling" you're almost "drawn" to them. granted most of the ads are of near naked women with big boobs but there are some that women would click like the gossip "articles".

 

[Pierre Barnard]

If someone (read developer), could come up with something like this, and make it affordable, I think it will take off big time!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

mass producing sites like these were attempted before, ala MFA = made for adsense


in a copy-cat world ......the issue will always be "uniqueness"

but Good Luck!

yes I know this! But I think these "content ads" have become so popular because of the "Google Slap". many lost their shirts because Google cracked down on these as you say MFA sites.

so the creators of such sites head for "Greener pastures" with good reason ala Content ads.

I agree with uniqueness. most of these sites are Cookie cutter-ish.

but name any parking page that isn't? yea millions of domains use them and that seems to be "Acceptable"?

it is hard work. but it's not impossible. Thanks biggie.

They won't rank parked pages while the domain is parked. Once you use it, they will crawl, reindex, and make changes accordingly.



NP links are nofollowed. You aren't giving them squat.



Good advertisers are particular about the value they get from their ads. (BTW, that's also why parking and Adsense often pay poorly - better advertisers are selective about where their ads appear.)
What advertiser would want to appear on a site with no unique quality?

You're looking for shortcuts, but as said earlier:

1. Agreed. use your domain to create one of these mini sites. make more money than with parked pages. have content not link farms.

2. Never knew! I always hear on NP to "watch what you post" because it's will be shown on Google. not the same thing as Follow Links? I have no clue.

3. Of course Good advertisers want value for their ads. There are outlets for them. The companies I mention providing these Content Ad solutions. they are raking in the big bucks. "Someone" is using them for sure as we'd see them all dropping like flies. obviously these guys aren't like Commission Junction or Linkshare or Adsense but they have found a market for themselves and are doing very well for a reason.

so that means let's use them!

 

[enlytend]

2. Never knew! I always hear on NP to "watch what you post" because it's will be shown on Google. not the same thing as Follow Links? I have no clue.

It will be indexed but it won't pass link equity back to the site.

 

[EmotiveDomains]

So this is basically white label?

Isn't there a risk of your domain getting blacklisted by Google for duplicate content?

 

[EmotiveDomains]

I think? yes? and as for blacklisted? does Yahoo get blacklisted by Google for showing snippets of content from all over the net of articles that advertisers want to be shown on Yahoo? The advertisers being the article creators? what about all thee other news sites that link to other sites?

I mean heck that's why Linkedin and even here is built on. people sharing content they like from other sites which they share one sites all over the place online.

has this or will this stop anytime soon?

how many people have posted a link to an article on NP? with a photo and a snippet from certain domain related articles they wanted to share?

I've done this. and was even "corrected" by a member for coping thee ENTIRE article and posting it in a thread. lol

so I edited. copied and pasted only the eye grabbing part and then put a link below the says "Read Rest of Article here"

Google accepts a certain percentage of duplicate content, but if virtually the entire site is a copy, Google will likely not rank the site at all and maybe not bother crawling it again.

I'm sure other people here will have more detailed understandings of how it all works.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

If you're willing to put the hours and effort in I'm sure there are ways around these issues yes. I guess it all depends what you get back in return.

Your best bet is probably to chat with someone who already uses these networks to find out how successful they are.

I suppose if you have a domain that's bringing in huge amounts of direct type-in traffic then search ranking don't matter. Just as long as there are no black marks put against the domain.

Maybe you should ask the question: Are you a domainer, web developer or both?

As has already been mentioned by someone else, the more time you put in, the more you get back. It's just a question of how much time you want to put in.

Year well I'm lazy with no web design skills.

So......much harder for me.

But there has to be some easier way to do this. Surprised no one as if yet has created a solution to make it easy.

 

[ison]

It's a great idea, actually. Any concerns about Google penalties can be alleviated with a 'noindex' tag. After all, the idea is to monetize typed-in traffic, not ranking the site and getting organic traffic.

However, the bigger challenge is finding advertising networks that allow their adverts to run on domains with zero content. Perhaps a full page sales letter/video for digital products from marketplaces like Clickbank?

 

[jideofor]

Those ads are called Native Ads, because they look much like part of the website and are easily clicked because their nature, unlike the traditional ones from Adsense.

 

[Traveler]

Unfortunately those type of ads only pay around 3 cents per click. So unless the site is developed to get search engine traffic it will probably earn just as much if not more as a parked page.

Another thing to consider is you need to meet a minimum number of pageviews to qualify for those ad networks. I think taboola is something like 500,000 a month, those others I believe require even more.

 

[Hypersot]

Yeah. Already paid for SSL despite not needing one, just for the ranking :/

and @Traveler , I just googled: ssl google ranking and got plenty of results. It's worth taking a look.

 

[Traveler]

Yeah. Already paid for SSL despite not needing one, just for the ranking :/

and @Traveler , I just googled: ssl google ranking and got plenty of results. It's worth taking a look.

Well that sucks, my sites are just info sites, no transactions or asking for personal data.

 

[Hypersot]

Well that sucks, my sites are just info sites, no transactions or asking for personal data.

Exactly.

Somehow I feel that things go -for real now- to the wrong direction.

All through the years it has been proven over and over that strict rules apply only to those that have no knowledge how to break any rules anyway... the rest that know stuff can do business as usual.... oh well

 

[mpls]

Yeah. Already paid for SSL despite not needing one, just for the ranking :/.

Never pay for an SSL certificate.
Serious hosting companies offer it for free.
Or use cloudflare, they give you a free SSL.
All my sites run under SSL protocol, it's free and boost SEO

 

[VaibhavA]

Will give it a try. Thanks.

 

[VaibhavA]

I agree

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I mean create a site like this? pay about $200 to do a Press Release that gets on 430K ranked PR and Article sites including Google news.

now you have a money making domain earning you 10,000% more than any parking page ever will.


btw? don't use MGID. I've learned that Google has detected the site as part of a Link Circle? just a bunch of sites with no rank sharing traffic with each other. so any site using them will get blacklist.

so Press Release will be a better option in the long run.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I agree

thanks. so "how hard" would it be to create such a site? got any skills? I'd be interested. PM ME.