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Where .com is Not King

Labeled as discuss in Domain Extensions, started by ixex, Apr 21, 2020

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  1. donnied79

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    In quite every country of the world, except USA, .com is NOT the king.
    King is the local ccTLD.
    In Italy you have most of the famous website on .it, same in Spain for .es, Germany for .de, France for .fr etc.
    And in countries where it's not yet, like India with .in, it will be in the future.
    .com is the King globally but locally it's not even a competition.
     
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  2. Bob Hawkes

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    You either did an amazing solo job:xf.smile: or got some help along the way @Reddstagg, as CENTR in their last report single it, and a couple others, out.
    "The Irish ccTLD (.ie) has performed particularly well, having recorded high growth and an increased global Cisco rank. It has done this without compromising its renewal ratio which is above the European average, and also by keeping deletions low."
    Best wishes to all investing in .ie.
    Bob
     
  3. ixex

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    Interesting point.
     
  4. ixex

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    "In Russia, I suspect .biz and .pro are more popular compared to other countries."

    Interesting
     
  5. Reddstagg

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    Good afternoon Bob,

    I have 31 .IE domains now so I guess a few other people have registered some too.

    Viva la revolution.ie

    Regards,

    Redd
     
  6. Furquah

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    Don't know where but for me .com is not king.

    Here is the last 28 days performance of my autopilot website which I build on .pw domain. Yeah you read it clearly. It's a .PW domain beating many of its .com competitors in Google search.
    Screenshot_2020-04-22-23-08-52-715_com.android.chrome.jpg


    Ps:- I am domainer too, so I always tell my customer .com is king 😝
     
  7. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    What is a king? :xf.grin:
    I mean that somewhat seriously. When we say domain is king, do we mean by registrations, impact, respect, website use, aftermarket sales, etc.
    Also, this is obvious, but .com can be king overall, without necessarily being king many places outside the us on a regional basis.
    Another question I have is, do you think .com is more king, less king, or about the same as say a decade ago?
    Thanks for all the interesting replies already in this thread.
    Bob
     
  8. topdom

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    .com is more king than before, and I think .net suffered most from new tlds. For example I had recovered from being a poor student 10-15 years ago and became almost a businessman, and I was not interested in paying more than 5K for a 3 letter .com (something like ANR.com), and what would be the asking price for such a domain today, start with 1M counteroffer and eventually sell for 150K. On the other hand during landrushes I was willing to pay 5K (5 times my salary) for some .info's: how stupid.
     
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  9. ixex

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    LOL Wow!
     
  10. Ostrados

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    the OP said excluding ccTLDs and the thread turned to be exclusively about ccTLDs discussion lol

    If we exclude ccTLDs then .com will almost always be king except in some few situations like:
    • .org for non-profit & NGOs is much better than .com
    • .edu for educational institutions
    • .gov for governmental institutions
    • clever domain hacks like these ending with ly
    • url shortners
     
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  11. ixex

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    Thanks, but thats ok..it never came to me, the extent of detail of education and information about ccTLDs would come out of this for these types of domain extensions rivaling (versus) the .com LOL

    Also thanks for your list. This list references USA activity more specifically correct?
     
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  12. Ostrados

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    .edu & .gov I think in US only
    .org is globally used
     
  13. ixex

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  14. Bob Hawkes

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    I apologize for, like many others, not picking up on the except country code reference in OP. But anyway, we have a nice discussion of country code going now :xf.smile:.

    In @jmcc recent book he makes the point that it is the large number of adoptions and use by small businesses that really drive a TLD to succeed (hopefully paraphrasing that accurately). I think in a fair chunk of the Earth, we see that if you look at the majority of active websites, like real authentic ones, the country code has a slight lead, but if we look at say the top 100 or something, then .com will dominate. I would say that is true in Canada, and from what I read seems so in much of Europe. So who is king kind of depends on definition of king. A TLD like .de can be very strong in Germany, but in global impact, since most of use in Germany and a few other countries, not so much. But in Germany, it may well be king.

    As a global presence, I can't see in near future anyone coming close to .com. However, particularly if politics continues to fracture globalization, it is possible that in many parts of the world country codes will become even stronger.

    I don't see .org or .net in a position to challenge .com, nor do i see .co, .io etc. They will continue to probably grow use, but nowhere near to .com.

    Most of the new extensions are meant to be niche players. That does not mean that they can't be successful in those niches, just that only a few (like .xyz) are general purpose like .com is (and those few don't seem destined for dominance). I think it is possible, but unlikely, that an extension like .news might become a challenge in the news sector, and others in other niches, so collectively they might dent the .com dominance a bit, but we are nowhere near actually seeing that yet.

    I see, unlike some or many probably, that the dominance of .com will slowly weaken, but it will still be #1 for a long time. Probably much longer than my horizon in domain names.

    Bob
     
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  15. ixex

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    I apologize for, like many others, not picking up on the except country code reference in OP. But anyway, we have a nice discussion of country code going now :xf.smile:.

    No worries Bob!, if I knew it was going to be this informative and nice, I would not have written that in to begin with LOL
     
  16. 7363824

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    Not much of an aftermarket for .edu or .gov though :ROFL: I did hear an interesting story recently about a security researcher who was able to convince the GSA (who administers .gov) that he was the mayor of some small little town somewhere (it was a real town atleast) and he got a .gov domain for this town. He did utimately reveal what happened and how to them and it seems in March they made a change to what is required to get a .gov domain but I digress.

    I do like .org but I think it is the best option as an investment that is non .com and not a cctld.

    .ly is actually a cctld for Libya. And I think most url shorters are based on cctlds with clever letter combos. Microsoft for example uses aka.ms for their url shortner where .ms is the cctld for Montserrat.
     
  17. jmcc

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    The .NET was in trouble since the end of Domain Tasting in 2009. Apart from a few events like the Chinese bubble, it has been continually losing registrations. In some countries, there seems to be more interest in the .ORG now. What happens with country level markets when the ccTLD gets established is that the volume of new registrations in that country each month switches to the ccTLD and new registrations in .NET, .ORG, .BIZ and in INFO slow down with .COM benefiting from the .ccTLD/.COM effect where new businesses will register their ccTLD domain name and the same in .COM if it is available.

    Markets also have a development trend when it comes to domain names. In an early market, everyone is looking to sell products and services to the world and .COM is the natural global option. As the ccTLD develops, more people in the country will use the ccTLD for their main business. At a particular point in time, people switch to using their ccTLD only because most business is local. This causes a very interesting effect in that some domain names will only ever exist in a ccTLD and not in gTLDs. As the ccTLD begins to dominate its market, businesses stop registering their .COM because the focus of their business is local. However, businesses and people will still register .COM because it is the top global TLD.

    Regards...jmcc
     
  18. jmcc

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    The .US is a sad case, Bob,
    Some of it has to do with the registry being unable to market effectively against those TLDs in its market. But in an ideal situation, the .US would have around 50 M registrations. Some of the discounting offers in recent years were quite stupid as it is a bad way to drive interest in a TLD and a great way to kill development and credibility (loads of junk and spam registrations occur in discounting offers). Godaddy bought Neustar's registry operations and now runs .US (and .BIZ, .CO and a few others).

    The .CA is doing well. There's a psychological aspect to ccTLDs in that when people think of their local ccTLD as being their TLD, it starts to overtake .COM.

    It had great prospects but it is less than half the price of a .COM registration at the moment. Unfortunately, it is caught in the non-core TLD downturn where people are rethinking what domain names in other non-ccTLD/non-COM TLDs that they can drop.

    Regards...jmcc
     
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  19. TheBuyerz

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    In crypto world, ORG extension is a king... some of projects with .org extension:

    - bitcoin.org
    - ethereum.org
    - bitcoincash.org (Sold for 48888$ on Godaddy - 2017 - year of the hard fork)

    Decentralizilation and transparence, projects have to be open sourced to build trust.

    Followed by: IO

    INFO (generaly for chain explorers like blockchain.info, and recently ethereum.info sold for 3650$ in dynadot backorder auction) and NET also used for several projects...
     
  20. ixex

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    Cryto world the ORG is King? Wow!
     
  21. JordanH

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    I was going to say this too.
    In Canada, most websites that are Canadian owned will have the .ca as it's primary TLD over the .com. (While still having the .com redirect)
     
  22. Prophecy

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    Check out this latest news - tehrantimes dot com/news/447198/U-S-Treasury-blocks-seizes-domains-of-Iranian-media-outlets
    This high-handed approach of USA authorities is denting the value of .com domains. It is not the first time that USA authorities have seized .com domain names. This news confirms my prophecy that country codes will rise, excepting America, as .com is their ccTLD.
    I think country code domain names will be the order of the day.
     
  23. cipcip

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    .com is king in US and Canada probably. All over the world, cctld's are more popular.

    Where I have been:
    - In Portugal is .PT everywhere
    - in Spain is .ES
    - In Romania is .RO
    - In Italy is .IT
    - In Malta is com.mt ( more than .mt )
    - In Greece, .GR
    - In France, .FR

    I am talking from banner ads that I have seen throughout the city, not some statistics over the internet.

    Thanks,
    Cristian
     
  24. uzver

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    This BS extension didn’t increase your traffic. I’m sure there are plenty of people on warrior forum who can beat many coms on whatever extension you give them.
     
  25. ixex

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    Thanks for letting me know about Warrior Forum
     

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