Where are we headed

[.X.]

Google hates domain parking, Google now hates mini sites, I think Google hates domainers in general LOL.

Here is the problem i see, Google is a financial empire, They call ALL the shots on what happens with our domain names. Just the same as Walmart has become such an empire, They control most markets now.

This is a bad thing IMO, I feel strongly we need more large search engine companies, This will stimulate the internet economy as a whole. Bing is trying, I don't think they will succeed, It's all about the money, Money is power, And Google can knock out most any one at this point, All they have to do is release some cash on them, And they are gone.

Don't get me wrong, Google has good stuff, Apps and ect. But we despartly need serious competition for them. Other wise, No one will be able to get good search engine indexing, With out spending ALOT of money to do so.

You look at the Googles and Walmarts of the world, And that is what holds people back from prospering. Monopolies are a very bad thing, They hold every one at bay, screw the economy, and can become evil empires.

What are your views on the future of domaining, What do we need, and not need???????????

 

[TravisD1]

Shouldn't they be taken to court for being a monopoly if it gets too bad, or is that not possible for an internet company?

 

[.X.]

Shouldn't they be taken to court for being a monopoly if it gets too bad, or is that not possible for an internet company?

I am really not sure on that one, They go to court about every other day for some thing, So it probably wouldn't bother them any lol

It has already gotten really bad IMO, As the internet evolves, so should products, services and ect. We aren't seeing that in the search engine industry, not to much in the domaining industry, We as domainers have made a few strides, only to be shot down IMO, Such services as Noomle.com - WhyPark.com brought us out of pure domain parking, That is not good enough for Google. I forgot the newest change by Google that directly effects domainers. But now, Mini sites and such are considered crap by Google.

 

[DU]

Google hates domain parking, Google now hates mini sites, I think Google hates domainers in general LOL.

Here is the problem i see, Google is a financial empire, They call ALL the shots on what happens with our domain names. Just the same as Walmart has become such an empire, They control most markets now.

This is a bad thing IMO, I feel strongly we need more large search engine companies, This will stimulate the internet economy as a whole. Bing is trying, I don't think they will succeed, It's all about the money, Money is power, And Google can knock out most any one at this point, All they have to do is release some cash on them, And they are gone.

Don't get me wrong, Google has good stuff, Apps and ect. But we despartly need serious competition for them. Other wise, No one will be able to get good search engine indexing, With out spending ALOT of money to do so.

You look at the Googles and Walmarts of the world, And that is what holds people back from prospering. Monopolies are a very bad thing, They hold every one at bay, screw the economy, and can become evil empires.

What are your views on the future of domaining, What do we need, and not need???????????

You need to do more research. Google is currently the number one target of Congress in terms of being looked at as a monopoly in terms of its "anti-competitive" practices.

This is all well and good but its being driven by..... other companies including... Microsoft

This isn't good.

The main issue is that the old boys network running the country just aren't able to keep up with the rapid technology changes. Take a look one day at the new "open transparent" government spending - they can't even establish a unified feed format. They budgeted over $300m to build the site - non-profits offered to do it for them for costs well under. To the politicians - the internet is a series of tubes. {which ironically is partially right}

Google already is facing strong competition from the likes of Facebook (anyone who says they aren't is a fool) and even Microsoft (especially in the mobile search market which most people in the US are unaware of).

Google is trying to find its new niches because even they know the search market is only one component of their business.

The internet is fundamentally changing. Access is changing. The market is changing.

Google isn't anti-domainer. The future is.

The domainers of today were the record collectors of yesterday.

Stop being paranoid. Google is not evil :O

 

[realtimeregister]

That google is not a fan of parked pages is normal.

If i look something up on google i want real results and not some parked page. If google is not getting me the results i might want to switch to a search engine that can provide me the search results i want/need

 

[enlytend]

If i look something up on google i want real results and not some parked page. If google is not getting me the results i might want to switch to a search engine that can provide me the search results i want/need

And that goes for most "minisites" too. I want real results, not some useless content (probably rehashed from Wikipedia) that's just there to make it "legal" for the site owner to plaster their site with Adsense.

Google doesn't hate small sites, just ones whose only purpose is to show Adsense.

 

[JTFranklin]

I think that there will be something more and better as we are going through a change and generation gaps are closing in.

I know I have a few ideas so I can safely assume that others will have ideas. There will be someone who is bigger and better out there. Maybe even crafty in gaining the funding to enable their plans into further development.

As we have all been bashed in the head with the thoughts. Cash is King. If you don't have it, you might as well kiss the ideas good bye and keep moving on to whatever you were doing.

I think there are some driven individuals out there that will find a way to make something happen for themselves and what greater good that they may bring.

Google and Walmart do have the monopoly but check this out, just like the whole Satan and God analogy. Someone is going to be out there trying to get past the big fishes so they can amount to their dreams.


Hope this made sense..

 

[realtimeregister]

Well imo Google is finally catching up with current events.
And to purify their results, mini pages and parked pages are getting the index value that Google think it should get. In most cases zero value.

Parked pages should have never been indexed in the first place at all since they had zero content.

So the error has been corrected by Google and they will keep correcting in the future to ensure search results are as accurate as possible

 

[exsedo]

The thing that most are missing here is g00gle's double standards.
Adsense For Domains for one.
Indexing scam and spam sites for another.

 

[Sparhawke]

The thing is though that these parked pages and mini-sites are Googles bread and butter otherwise all we will end up with is the same rehashed crap we had 20 years ago with a few media companies controlling everything.

Say what you will about the internet giving the little man a chance, that is all bullshit because as soon as the little man becomes a big man he falls into the same age old trap of wanting to control everything.

Google, Amazon, Facebook, Ebay & soon Twitter...they are all the same, all they want is your money and the only way they can get it is by crushing anyone who doesn't agree with them.

 

[enlytend]

Adsense For Domains for one.

You see that as a conflict? I don't. Those pages don't make it into the search index, advertisers can advertise there or not, as they see fit. It's another option for their advertisers but it doesn't affect the index.

Indexing scam and spam sites for another.

Recently Matt Cutts asked for some input on things people would like to see the spam team address - that was mentioned in a lot of responses, along with suggestions for dealing with it.

One suggestion which kept coming up? Take away the seo benefits to having an exact match keyword domain. The reason being the growing horde of mfa's sailing into the rankings solely on that tactic.

(Don't shoot me - I'm just the messenger!)

 

[syncvb]

Google earns Millions from parking
domainnamewire.com/2010/02/17/report-google-may-earn-497-million-a-year-from-typosquatting - Domain Name Wire » News » Report: Google May Earn $497 Million a Year from Typosquatting - The Domain Industry's News Source

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/29/AR2006042900279.html - The Web's Million-Dollar Typos - washingtonpost.com

Why should they hate parking??
As far as mini sites are concerned G00gle does not like them in general.If you don't believe try to get your Adsense application approved using a minisite.

 

[.X.]

You need to do more research. Google is currently the number one target of Congress in terms of being looked at as a monopoly in terms of its "anti-competitive" practices.

This is all well and good but its being driven by..... other companies including... Microsoft

This isn't good.

The main issue is that the old boys network running the country just aren't able to keep up with the rapid technology changes. Take a look one day at the new "open transparent" government spending - they can't even establish a unified feed format. They budgeted over $300m to build the site - non-profits offered to do it for them for costs well under. To the politicians - the internet is a series of tubes. {which ironically is partially right}

Google already is facing strong competition from the likes of Facebook (anyone who says they aren't is a fool) and even Microsoft (especially in the mobile search market which most people in the US are unaware of).

Google is trying to find its new niches because even they know the search market is only one component of their business.

The internet is fundamentally changing. Access is changing. The market is changing.

Google isn't anti-domainer. The future is.

The domainers of today were the record collectors of yesterday.

Stop being paranoid. Google is not evil :O

I didn't know that, Thanks for letting me know they are #1 on the list as a monopoly, They should be. And i hope the US pops the whip on them , Walmart as well. As for Microsoft, Well, they gave 30 billion dollars to charities, At least they consider others other than themselves.

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And that goes for most "minisites" too. I want real results, not some useless content (probably rehashed from Wikipedia) that's just there to make it "legal" for the site owner to plaster their site with Adsense.

Google doesn't hate small sites, just ones whose only purpose is to show Adsense.

I understand your point, Google doesn't like mini sites, So why would they allow their adsense to be placed on them???

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Google earns Millions from parking
domainnamewire.com/2010/02/17/report-google-may-earn-497-million-a-year-from-typosquatting - Domain Name Wire » News » Report: Google May Earn $497 Million a Year from Typosquatting - The Domain Industry's News Source

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/29/AR2006042900279.html - The Web's Million-Dollar Typos - washingtonpost.com

Why should they hate parking??
As far as mini sites are concerned G00gle does not like them in general.If you don't believe try to get your Adsense application approved using a mini site.

Good points, Google doesn't mind domain parking, as long as they are making the cash, They will allow people to put adsense on a mini site, Hell, They even provide feed for domain parking companies, It's all about the money with them apparently, screw ethics and morals, we will provide domain parking companies our feed, we will let mini sites use our adsense, we will have our own domain parking service, But we voice out, and hate all the above.

---------- Post added at 08:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 PM ----------

Google earns Millions from parking
domainnamewire.com/2010/02/17/report-google-may-earn-497-million-a-year-from-typosquatting - Domain Name Wire » News » Report: Google May Earn $497 Million a Year from Typosquatting - The Domain Industry's News Source

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/29/AR2006042900279.html - The Web's Million-Dollar Typos - washingtonpost.com

Why should they hate parking??
As far as mini sites are concerned G00gle does not like them in general.If you don't believe try to get your Adsense application approved using a mini site.

Good post, Very good post, They will allow mini sites to run adsense though, They wont index any of them, But they will let em put adsense on em.

Not to mention, and i have heard of this so many times from users here, They will shut down some ones account, keep the money, saying they are going to pay back the advertisers, Claiming suspicious traffic, I looked at a persons own google analytics on his account getting closed, After researching IP addys, His traffic was tier one traffic, But they had nothing to say to him, It's just incredible to me that they get by with such actions.

 

[RLW]

That google is not a fan of parked pages is normal.

If i look something up on google i want real results and not some parked page. If google is not getting me the results i might want to switch to a search engine that can provide me the search results i want/need

I totally agree. Google search is there to meet the needs of people searching for information, not to meet the needs of domainers wanting to get crappy sites indexed.

I think search has come a long way in recent years. Search results are more timely, accurate and less spammy. I remember a few years back when the first couple of pages of almost any search were almost all spam or crappy pages that were optimised. It wasn't too long ago where if you wanted to find information that was only recent, you wouldn't have had much luck finding it in a search engine.

I also think that a lot of the people who've posted here need to understand that google search and google adsense are too seperate products, with different purposes. There is nothing wrong with allowing people to show adsense on mini sites, but not indexing those sites in search. Search is for people looking for information, adsense is for advertisers to advertise, and publishers to make money. Theres nothing more to it.

Sure, Google is a bit of a monopoly, but I think they'll shoot themselves in the foot before too long. Google used to be about innovation, and thats what got them where they are today. To me, they've lost that a lot of their imagination over recent years. It's the little tools and inspirational apps that made google famous.

With Google focusing on things that they shouldn't (like a product to rival Facebook), the other search engines will build ground. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.

 

[liquidcherry]

Why should they hate parking??
As far as mini sites are concerned G00gle does not like them in general.If you don't believe try to get your Adsense application approved using a minisite.

You need just ONE real site with real content to have your adsense approved, than use it for the next 500 minisites :yell::lol::blink:

Cheers

Liquid

 

[syncvb]

You need just ONE real site with real content to have your adsense approved, than use it for the next 500 minisites :yell::lol::blink:

Cheers

Liquid

That's exactly what I (and all others here) have!:lol: but to be frank I always fear about what if they visit my badly formed,undeveloped mini sites! Will they cl0se my account!

 

[exsedo]

What happened to equal opportunity ? The principals that g00gle started out with ?
Next it will be " only allow single word .coms in the index "

 

[eyedomainous]

Like anything... be it a company, person, substance, deity, political party or whatever... Google only has the power people give it.

Why blame Goog for cooking-up a 'secret sauce' sales pitch for turning the web's mighty numbers into 'traffic' especially & contextually for You!?

Like anything... if you bought it, You own it. Including the blame that gave them the power over your (domain) game.

IMO, 'driving traffic' is like herding cats. The big dogs rule that sport. I try to focus on sales... as even a low traffic site provides hundreds of opportunities to close a few each month.

Also, a mini-site, with a bowl a milk, can get a few cats.

 

[Obulus]

Well lets make a namepro's development clan and kick their asses?

 

[MicroGuy]

What are your views on the future of domaining, What do we need, and not need???????????

Less parked pages and fewer TLDs.