What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[RogueWriter]

So basically there are no moderators willing to move this to an appropriate section or ask the posters to place religious comments in the religion thread and political comments in the political thread.

But, I bet the first time I make a post about politics in an inappropriate thread I will get admonished by at least one moderator and the thread will be closed or moved to a section not of my liking or choosing.

CLICK HERE FOR THE RELIGIOUS THREAD

 

[Internet.Domains]

So basically there are no moderators willing to move this to an appropriate section or ask the posters to place religious comments in the religion thread and political comments in the political thread.

But, I bet the first time I make a post about politics in an inappropriate thread I will get admonished by at least one moderator and the thread will be closed or moved to a section not of my liking or choosing.

CLICK HERE FOR THE RELIGIOUS THREAD

Regardless of where the thread is stacked, the conversation has been an enlightening one and really can't be categorically applied to any specific thread without more disagreement.

If the thread was to move I would hope that Rob would be part of that decision making process, as he is the subject.

 

[TCK]

This is the perfect video to summarize this thread (watch it all the way through):

 

[Internet.Domains]

This is the perfect video to summarize this thread (watch it all the way through):

Seriously?....George Clooney talking about dumb@$$es......Ohhhhh the irony.

If your going to make a point, don't do it with out of touch Hollywood elitists.

 

[TCK]

Seriously?....George Clooney talking about dumb@$$es......Ohhhhh the irony.

If your going to make a point, don't do it with out of touch Hollywood elitists.

The content is spot on and the delivery hilarious.

“For 200 donation you can teach 10 **** ***** ****** that dinosaurs existed but not at the same time as humans”

PS. Whenever you attack the person you undermine your own case.

 

[frank-germany]

The content is spot on and the delivery hilarious.

“For 200 donation you can teach 10 **** ***** ****** that dinosaurs existed but not at the same time as humans”

PS. Whenever you attack the person you undermine your own case.

The problem is you can't enhance peoples capability of understanding
of more or less complex facts.

Everybody is born with whatever they have.

So don't blame them - they just can't.

But that doesn't mean to take them seriously.
That would go too far.

 

[Rob Monster]

The content is spot on and the delivery hilarious.

“For 200 donation you can teach 10 **** ***** ****** that dinosaurs existed but not at the same time as humans”

Seriously though, it is a darned shame that you, a professing Christian, don't believe the content of your Bible. In the Bible, the largest "dinosaur" variants were referred to as Behemoth and Leviathan.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Dinosaurs/

Behemoth "whose tail hung like a cedar tree" and Leviathan with sharp teeth and scale.
Behemoth is thought to be the biblical name for the brontosaurus and "Leviathan" likewise for T-Rex.

Here is a basic compare/contrast primer for you:

https://answersingenesis.org/dinosa...s-live/what-really-happened-to-the-dinosaurs/

As for the Clooney bit, on Jimmy Kimmel, if that does not completely reek of propaganda, I am not sure what does.

Reminder:

The playbooks are all out in the open. You can either learn the game or you can choose to be played. Either way, like it or not, you are in the game, the question is whether you are a player, or getting played.

 

[TCK]

Seriously though, it is a darned shame that you, a professing Christian, don't believe the content of your Bible. In the Bible, the largest "dinosaur" variants were referred to as Behemoth and Leviathan.

False. They refer to the hippopotamus and the crocodile.

 

[Rob Monster]

False. They refer to the hippopotamus and the crocodile.

Nonsense.

Behemoth eats grass like an ox (Job 40:15) but has a tail like a cedar (Job 40:17). And more significantly, "His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth." (Job 40:21). This was a literal fire breathing dragon as secular history and mythology also documents in the stories of dragonslayers.

Nimrod, aka Baal, Osiris, and Marduk, recorded in secular history, was not just a great and mighty hunter, a brilliant statesman and the first king of the world. He was also a great dragonslayer and probably a key enabler for the modern narrative that dragons/dinos did not co-exist with mankind when they did.

Either you believe the Bible or you don't. I won't judge you but from what I observe of your punditry, you are denying the written text and an apologist for secular nonsense. And yet, based on phone conversation, I suspect that you actually know better.

Secular Humanists are relying on 3 pillars of nonsense to make people think that life is without meaning:

1. The notion that dinosaurs / dragons did not coexist with Adamic man.

2. The notion that humans and all life evolved from nothing.

3. The notion that earth is a meaningless speck in a vast, expanding and randomly arrayed universe.

The decision to investigate these, and other, topics, is the start of the search for truth.

Satan is heading for the pit. His days are numbered. He was controlled opposition all along. Anyone who puts their confidence in Satan or his minions is a certified fool.

 

[TCK]

Behemoth eats grass like an ox (Job 40:15) but has a tail like a cedar (Job 40:17). And more significantly, "His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth." (Job 40:21). This was a literal fire breathing dragon as secular history and mythology also documents in the stories of dragonslayers.

So you think literal dragons/dinosaurs existed alongside people. And you think that makes sense?

You don't think that today exist wild beasts? And that there were other wild beasts that today are extinct but existed in ancient times, that were not dinosaurs?

And also you don't believe the Bible uses poetic descriptions?

What do hippos eat? https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-do-hippos-eat-lesson-for-kids.html

If you read up on the hippopotamus then the description in Job is quite fitting. More so than to dinosaurs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus

The same goes for the crocodile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile

And it is within the realm of logic/reason to believe there were species of both animals that likely do not exist today.

The false "christendom" teachings that dinosaurs existed alongside humans and that the earth was created in 6 24-hour days is part of the reason why people become atheist or agnostic.

It is amazing that you accept the science of the Internet but cast doubt on other proven sciences.

And BTW, the text you attributed to Job 40:21 is incorrect. It is Job 41.

 

[frank-germany]

Seriously though, it is a darned shame that you, a professing Christian, don't believe the content of your Bible. In the Bible, the largest "dinosaur" variants were referred to as Behemoth and Leviathan.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Dinosaurs/

Behemoth "whose tail hung like a cedar tree" and Leviathan with sharp teeth and scale.
Behemoth is thought to be the biblical name for the brontosaurus and "Leviathan" likewise for T-Rex.

Here is a basic compare/contrast primer for you:

https://answersingenesis.org/dinosa...s-live/what-really-happened-to-the-dinosaurs/

As for the Clooney bit, on Jimmy Kimmel, if that does not completely reek of propaganda, I am not sure what does.

Reminder:

The playbooks are all out in the open. You can either learn the game or you can choose to be played. Either way, like it or not, you are in the game, the question is whether you are a player, or getting played.

really ???
I can't believe my eyes

you are citing Joseph Goebbels?
to prove you are right?

you are supporting right-wing propaganda
and citing Joseph Goebbels

but you are a true Christian
and you love everybody

For heaven's sake!

 

[TCK]

@Rob Monster

Here's another one of the "monsters" that exists today:

Who knows what other reptiles existed 4000 years ago.

But dinosaurs? Definitely not.

 

[Rob Monster]

@Rob Monster

Here's another one of the "monsters" that exists today:

Who know what reptiles and other animals existed 4000 years ago.

But dinosaurs? Definitely not.

Let us know when you find one that breathes fire. They used to be on the earth.

To be clear, and as you should well know, that is not Christian doctrine. It is in the oldest book of the BIble -- Job was written after flood, and before Genesis. So, it would also be Orthodox Jewish.

The other non-Canonical books that provide context on the early earth are Enoch and Jasher.

 

[TCK]

Let us know when you find one that breathes fire. They used to be on the earth.

To be clear, and as you should well know, that is not Christian doctrine. It is in the oldest book of the BIble -- Job was written after flood, and before Genesis. So, it would also be Orthodox Jewish.

The other non-Canonical books that provide context on the early earth are Enoch and Jasher.

When you smoke a cigar and smoke comes out of your nostrils, are you breathing fire? It may look like it, but obviously not.

The words are poetic descriptions and accurate. I can find you other passages that are descriptive but not literal. If dinosaurs walked among humans in those times there would be a lot of direct references to them, like there are to other animals.

If you are true Christian, you would not reference non-canonical books. For obvious reasons.

BTW, the book of Job (written by Moses) is quoted throughout the Bible, including the Greek Scriptures, making it part of the biblical canon. I believe the entire Bible is the truth and must not be taken out of context.

 

[Rob Monster]

When you smoke a cigar and smoke comes out of your nostrils, are you breathing fire? Obviously not.

The words are poetic descriptions and accurate. I can find you other passages that are descriptive but not literal. If dinosaurs walked among humans in those times there would be a lot more references to them.

If you are true Christian, you would not reference non-Canonical books. For obvious reasons.

Wow, spoken like a textbook Jesuit.

There is nothing allegorical about: "Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out." The Hebrew source text makes that clear.

There is nothing wrong with reading non-Canonical texts just like there is nothing wrong with the secular history of Josephus. I don't rely on it for doctrine but for historical data points. They are pieces of the puzzle.

As for the Canon, who set the Canon? Let's see after Constantine determined in 325 that he could no longer destroy Christianity, he paganized it and forced everyone to be Catholic.

And then the bookburning began, and went full psycho in the Dark Ages. The Catholics never stopped burning Bibles nor adulterating them with nonsense like Transubstantiation, Marian worship, induldgences and confession to human confessors -- a profession initially dominated by .... JESUITS.

Ironically it was the Council of Laodicea that gave us "66 books", which conveniently omitted Revelation which calls it the Laodicean church for being lukewarm and useless.

 

[TCK]

Wow, spoken like a textbook Jesuit.

There is nothing allegorical about: "Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out." The Hebrew source text makes that clear.

There is nothing wrong with reading non-Canonical texts just like there is nothing wrong with the secular history of Josephus. I don't rely on it for doctrine but for historical data points. They are pieces of the puzzle.

As for the Canon, who set the Canon? Let's see after Constantine determined in 325 that he could no longer destroy Christianity, he paganized it and forced everyone to be Catholic.

And then the bookburning began, and went full psycho in the Dark Ages. The Catholics never stopped burning Bibles nor adulterating them with nonsense like Transubstantiation, Marian worship, induldgences and confession to human confessors -- a profession initially dominated by .... JESUITS.

Ironically it was the Council of Laodicea that gave us "66 books", which conveniently omitted Revelation which calls it the Laodicean church for being lukewarm and useless.

I am not a Jesuit. Nor a Catholic.

However, I am surprised that your Bible translation of choice it the King James Version (KJV) since you are into conspiracy theories and anti-establishment. KJV was commissioned by King James VI to be the official Bible of the Church of England. The translators had only a few hundred manuscripts available vs thousands that became available over the centuries since. Hence, KJV is one of the least accurate translations, written in English that is no longer used or understandable, Catholic, and as establishment as it gets.

Finally,

Let us know when you find one that breathes fire. They used to be on the earth.

Dinosaurs did not breathe fire. So are you now saying the there were dragons back then like in the Game of Thrones?

Wow.

 

[Rob Monster]

I am not a Jesuit. Nor a Catholic.

However, I am surprised that your Bible translation of choice is the King James Version (KJV)

The KJV 1611 is fine and has saved untold millions. However, if you know the history of the KJV translation, you know that Sir Francis Bacon, the international man of mystery, played a pivotal role there.

The essential truth of the Gospel is absolutely all there in the KJV, NIV, and many other translations. However, there is subtlety that is lost or obscured in some translations.

A good example is the word "Easter" which appears once in Acts 12:4 in the KJV but is actually Passover in the source text. KJV-only hardliners insist that the translators were inspired for which I am skeptical.

As for my go-to translation, I usually link to the BlueLetterBible.org site, which shows the paleo-Hebrew for the Masoretic OT, and the Greek Interlinear NT.

I am not a Jesuit. Nor a Catholic.

Dinosaurs did not breathe fire. So are you now saying the there were dragons back then like in the Game of Thrones?

Wow.

The word "dinosaurs" first appears in 1842 when it was coined by paleontologist Richard Owen. The term "Dinosaur" never existed before. That should tell you something right there.

I have more confidence in the existence of a fire-breathing Leviathan (Job 41) than I do in the artist rendering of dinosaurs.

You might ask why? Because the Bible is a witness. In a court of law, it would be a written testimony, regardless of whether someone believes it was God-inspired.

As for the paleontologists, and other professions, who digs up bones, stitch them together, and speculate as to what they represent, Chuck Missler explains it well here:

 

[offthehandle]

initiated by an uninformed Shane Cultra and amplified by certain members of a left-leaning lynch mob here at NamePros.

The Namejet shill bidder scandal thread was 68 pages, people lost real money and this is one is already at 60 pages, and yet nobody lost any money.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bidding-on-your-own-names-at-namejet.1030874/

 

[Rob Monster]

The Namejet shill bidder scandal thread was 68 pages, people lost real money and this is one is already at 60 pages, and yet nobody lost any money.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bidding-on-your-own-names-at-namejet.1030874/

True, but this thread has entertainment value and a decent amount of intellectually useful content for those who are trying to make sense of the world. As for "scandal", not so much.

Vice.com published a lovely hit piece today though:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gy4yg9/the-far-right-has-found-a-web-host-savior

Clearly the mainstream media has not given up on vilifying Epik for protecting lawful expression as protected by the US constitution.

As it turns out, Vice.com just got $250 million from George Soros:

https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/vice-media-250-million-debt-funding-george-soros-1203205076/

That should fund a lot of convincing propaganda in the coming year and pay off a few folks for selling their souls in exchange for sacrificing journalistic integrity. So, be forewarned there: Vice.com has an agenda.

 

[offthehandle]

True, but this thread has entertainment value and a decent amount of intellectually useful content for those who are trying to make sense of the world. As for "scandal", not so much.

So I see your links, glad they are actually discovering they cannot silence based on a mob. "Violent content"- yeah like what sort of garbage does Hollywood and Quentin Tarantino produce and sell? Violent trash media, films and movies.

"Epik’s CEO is a man named Rob Monster. When asked why the company hosts violent content, he told Motherboard in an email that the company is committed to protecting free speech."

I know you are having fun with it, it's free speech of course. I just find it intriguing people arguing over emotional issues versus logic issues. I 100% respect your right to believe in a God and Christianity and what you do to spread the word. Personally, and have no interest in debating emotional beliefs really with anyone other than those that have a base on logic. Logic states the USA was born on Judeo Christian concepts, which I respect and agree with. Other religions are free to be practiced in the USA as long as they do not trample on others (IE: Sharia). I am interested in secular intellectuals and their writing- like the late Christopher Hitchens- which you will not agree with, but he certainly is well studied about many topics.

Soros is a huge POS, his wealth was made on a game- not creating any products or services. So are the Clinton and Bush Crime families- they did very little productive to create their wealth. Kennedy's too, the entire clan was founded on illegal activity.

More power to you for being the only Registrar willing to protect free speech. I am glad that the idiocy of the deplatforming lynch mob will not prevail, until you sell your business- then perhaps nobody will.