What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[carob]

HI re Tia's comments to Rob Monster - domain owners may not yet have seen the implications for them of Rob's beliefs:

The point I was trying to make by asking those questions is either science is relevant or it isn’t.

So why chose to ignore science on some things but not others?

How do you know when to trust science and when to not? When it seems to confirm the Bible? Isn’t that just a biased view?

To use science when it aligns with how you want to see the world and fill the rest in with some kind of weird philosophy? Because that isn't science.

Selectively believing in science can lead to some weird decisions:
"I didn't keep database backups because I don't believe in electrons, sorry we lost your data on what domains you own and what you paid and what credit you had."

Also as we know from an employee post on here, Epik do delete domains on moral rather than strictly legal terms and Rob Monster is the one deciding that and Epik's ToS allow that.

So Rob Monster could delete any and all domains at Epik at any time.

Just imagine, Rob Monster wakes up one day, sees a bright light and a voice says "The Rapture is today". So Rob decides it is time to delete all domains to cleanse the world for the Second Coming and deletes all domains at Epik.

Once you hit the delete button on a domain it can't be restored, it will drop. Unless I guess maybe there is some divine intervention.

 

[Tia Wood]

That’s a bit extreme and I don’t think he’s that stupid or blind.

There are many faith based people running businesses responsibley just fine.

Do I think Rob is a bad person? No.

Do I think he is a white supremist? No. Not yet at least. I am afraid he might head there though with enough conspiracy theories.

Do I think he’s in over his head? Absolutely.

WatchMask “engineers” couldn’t take 5 minutes to ensure it wasn’t pulling from amazon and Cloudflare services? It took me two seconds to figure that out.

Meanwhile he’s encouraging gab and namepros users to use it while supposed to be Cloudflare free.

Namepros users probably don’t care too much about that but I guarantee you the client base Epik seems to be attracting does and they’ll want to be 1000% confident you’re on top of your game and they are not going to be forgiving about that.

Then shows a misunderstanding about what IPFS is. It’s not a file format. It’s an Internet protocol.

So we have alt right being hosted (multiple sites growing and being targeted as the client base, not just gab)

Mixed in with technologies that don’t seem to be quite ready yet.

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished.

From a business standpoint, mixed in with the CEO being very vocal about devisive, controversial topics, I am just very confused as to how this is a smart business move.

UNLESS you are okay targeting a specific client base and okay with alienating the rest?

Because in that case: just admit it. I think that’s what irks people the most.

Had you just come out and said something like that then I wouldn’t be in this thread still.

 

[Tia Wood]

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished.

Wanted to clarify this a bit more:

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished with privacy and anonymity. These are services that the internet needs as a whole for everyone.

But you can't tell me that if you were to host Antifa or any extreme left leaning group like that, that your crowd is going to be okay with that and that right there is the problem. And because of your public posts on personal opinions that you've plastered all over the place, you've made it all that much harder.

You've also made it harder for the "free speech" defense because people can clearly see by what you've posted how you align with things.

It just doesn't look good but I wish you the best. I hope you do accomplish what you are trying to do with privacy and anonymity services. But I also hope you learn from this experience and consider a better, more careful approach in the future.

Best of luck.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

That’s a bit extreme and I don’t think he’s that stupid or blind.

There are many faith based people running businesses responsibley just fine.

Do I think Rob is a bad person? No.

Do I think he is a white supremist? No. Not yet at least. I am afraid he might head there though with enough conspiracy theories.

Do I think he’s in over his head? Absolutely.

WatchMask “engineers” couldn’t take 5 minutes to ensure it wasn’t pulling from amazon and Cloudflare services? It took me two seconds to figure that out.

Meanwhile he’s encouraging gab and namepros users to use it while supposed to be Cloudflare free.

Namepros users probably don’t care too much about that but I guarantee you the client base Epik seems to be attracting does and they’ll want to be 1000% confident you’re on top of your game and they are not going to be forgiving about that.

Then shows a misunderstanding about what IPFS is. It’s not a file format. It’s an Internet protocol.

So we have alt right being hosted (multiple sites growing and being targeted as the client base, not just gab)

Mixed in with technologies that don’t seem to be quite ready yet.

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished.

From a business standpoint, mixed in with the CEO being very vocal about devisive, controversial topics, I am just very confused as to how this is a smart business move.

UNLESS you are okay targeting a specific client base and okay with alienating the rest?

Because in that case: just admit it. I think that’s what irks people the most.

Had you just come out and said something like that then I wouldn’t be in this thread still.

Just for the record, I don't know who you are nor do I really care, but I do know Rob Monster and he's a friend and a brother in Christ. Also, I have a good friend David Donna Price who is transgender, and as a lawyer, a family ????, and a retired Navy Captain, he/she is a spokesperson for the LGBTQ community Worldwide. At the gym where we worked out he/she was known as "Liberal Dave". I first met Dave at his Naval Retirement ceremony about 12 years ago, and learned about his family and his life while working out together. Dave actually convinced me to vote for Obama his first term, but I wasn't about to be fooled by Dave the second time around. I think it was about 5-7 years ago Dave decided on his gender change, and he wasn't at all discreet about it. He wanted to tell the world. I don't have a huge problem with that, but his wonderful and loving wife of 30+ years and his three great children did have some difficulty. The way he went about the change was very insensitive, and he expected all his family and friends to accept his change as routine. I miss our conversations about Atlanta Braves baseball and how his kids were doing in sports and in college, and while I know this is something he had to do, most everyone I know has difficulty accepting his change.

Moving on to the White Supremacy issue...I'm a white male 71 years young who actually voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election, but with regrets. I watch both CNN and Fox News, and one evening while listening to and watching Don Lemon of CNN refer to me as a racist just because I'm a Caucasian male was the biggest and most humiliating insult ever to come my way. That happened 60-90 days ago, and I think I'll never get over it.

Finally, I'm 1/4 Jewish and very proud of it...Jesus was a Jew That said however, when I learned Hitlers Germany would have incinerated me at Auschwitz because my DNA was tainted just 25%, that put the world in better perspective. To the extent that another member here from Germany has the audacity to consider Rob Monster a White Supremacist or a racist is as hypocritical as it gets.

That's all I got....back to loving life

 

[Rob Monster]

WatchMask “engineers” couldn’t take 5 minutes to ensure it wasn’t pulling from amazon and Cloudflare services? It took me two seconds to figure that out.

Tia, just to be clear, WatchMask.com is a tiny low budget prospect. Someone contacted me out of the blue to tell me that he had experience coding SOCKS5 proxies that bypassed the Great Firewall of China. We agreed on a little pilot project called WatchMask.com. This is not one of our core engineers.

In the meantime, he did make some more optimization on WatchMask.com which you are welcome to check out anytime and critique. It might be worthy of its own thread, but you are doing people a disservice by judging a tiny skunkworks project that is still in development as being representative of Epik. It is not.

On the other hand, BitMitigate, developed by Nicholas Lim, has successfully mitigated one of the largest DDoS operations that industry watchers have seen in a long time. It just so happened to coincide with the events in New Zealand last month. BitMitigate is impressive tech. Anyone who has seen it, knows it.

You could be making money today if, instead of virtue-signaling on NamePros, you were charging your clients $399 per year for a service that you can set up on BitMitigate.com fore free in about 10 minutes. I think that is going to be a much better ROI on your time.

Hope that clarifies.

 

[Rob Monster]

Wanted to clarify this a bit more:

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished with privacy and anonymity. These are services that the internet needs as a whole for everyone.

But you can't tell me that if you were to host Antifa or any extreme left leaning group like that, that your crowd is going to be okay with that and that right there is the problem.

Epik.com absolutely welcomes all legal voices. I actually wish that ANTIFA and more DNC campaigns would build on Epik. We actually have quite a few of those. I can guarantee you that they would get great service. Even the SPLC, who I don't like or respect personally, is welcome to have Epik use their registrar.

It is not a secret that I have defended against Legitscript. That post was published here way back in August 2017. The logic was similar -- a defense of due process:

https://epik.com/blog/why-i-stood-up-to-legitscript.html

Now, on a personal note, I don't take drugs other than an occasional antibiotic if I need to kick some infection in a hurry rather than relying on immune support supplements. I can't recall the last time I had to take a painkiller of any kind including NSAID. I sometimes take a baby aspirin before a long flight.

We also have some adult and porn domains on Epik. We don't go looking for them but they show up. Do I think porn is really evil? Yes, I do. It is never free as there are spiritual costs. However, if the law protects it, then the registrant should be allowed to use their domain. And yes I pray for and witness to such folks.

Last but not least, as we are accredited by ICANN, we have to follow rules regardless of anyone's personal bias or preferences. We try hard to stay in compliance there. This is something that Joseph Peterson has done exceptionally during his tenure.

In other, words my personal preferences have no bearing on what domains we'll host. All are welcome.

 

[Rob Monster]

The point I was trying to make by asking those questions is either science is relevant or it isn’t.

So why chose to ignore science on some things but not others?

I saw this one and slept on it. I woke up with some clarity.

God does not miss much. He knows all, sees all, and is in all.

On the other hand:

God hardens hearts at will, e.g. as he did with Pharaoh (see Exodus 9:12). I believe he did that because he would show his might, first with 10 plagues, then parting the waters, feeding 600,000 households in the desert for 40 years with fresh manna 6 days a week and some occasional quail. Etc. God's pretty cool in other words.

God's send delusions. You can read in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 how this is supposed to go down during the end-times apostasy, which I believe is already very much in progress. Evolution is a delusion. Outer space travel is a delusion. If there is ever an alien invasion, that will be demons from the pit, not "aliens".

In other words, Elon Musk did not send a Tesla into outer space. That is more reinforcement of the delusion. Yes, StarMan is just another PsyOp.

So, yes, I like science. I choose to not accept delusions, even though I fully know that God allows them.

Whether you accept it or not, life is a test. You get nominally 70 or 80 years with a sound mind, during which your #1 task is to figure out the identity of the Creator, and to figure out what he wants. It is a pass-fail test.

 

[Tia Wood]

you are doing people a disservice by judging a tiny skunkworks project that is still in development as being representative of Epik. It is not.

And for those of you who think CloudFlare is all that, investigate further and you will discover their origins as Project Honeypot. They catalog all the IPs of lots of controversial sites.

So, indicated action:

1. Use Anonymize.com VPN - it's free and great with no BS.

2. Use BitMitigate.com instead of CloudFlare.

3. For watching videos, try out WatchMask.com.

Epik runs all of these and we log nothing and have no tracking code.

Epik runs all of these and we log nothing and have no tracking code.

.....Um. How is that my fault? You can also try not promoting websites you know isn't ready?

You could be making money today if, instead of virtue-signaling on NamePros, you were charging your clients $399 per year for a service that you can set up on BitMitigate.com fore free in about 10 minutes. I think that is going to be a much better ROI on your time.

.....I am speechless.

Now, on a personal note, I don't take drugs

.....You might want to start. Dear Lord....

 

[Tia Wood]

God's send delusions

God is not the author of confusion

So which is it?

 

[Rob Monster]

So which is it?

Tia - I don't think it can be any more obvious. God tells you what he is going to do before He does it. He prophesies the future, documents it, and then fulfills it. He even has a sense of humor too.

As for the delusion, already in progress and culminating fully soon, here it is:

And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

There is no confusion here. This is the God of all creation fulfilling prophecy, right on the money, as usual.

He did it the first time when Jesus showed up. The classic proof text is called "The Coming Prince" by Sir Robert Anderson.

 

[Tia Wood]

So God lies to people then condemns them for trusting him because we’re supposed to always trust in him because he’s not supposed to be the author of confusion then damns us to hell all eternity for that?

Sounds like a good deal, man.

So for the science bits, the parts you do believe in, how do you know god isn’t sending you delusions?

 

[NameLlama]

This bitmitigate guy is really great, don'tcha think
https://twitter.com/LimTheNick/status/919996167626166272

 

[Mister Funsky]

To me, being curious about the world is more fun than keeping up with the Kardashians or contemplating a busted NCAA basketball bracket!

There have been many more cerebral, true, thought provoking and pertinent posts made by Rob in this thread but this is one of my favorites! Humans have a remarkable ability to waste time on the mundane and as a result fail to improve/increase their knowledge.

 

[Rob Monster]

This bitmitigate guy is really great, don'tcha think

Looks like an old Tweet where he was brutally honest about something. I don't believe he is a misogynist if that is what you are trying to imply here.

As context, Nick is 21 years old. He has sold 3 tech companies. He started coding at age 5, left his family home at 14, raised himself, bought a home. He is diligent, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. He thinks big.

Give him time. I think you will find Nick emerge as a force for good with a maturity beyond his years. Those who have met him know what I mean.

 

[NameLlama]

This guy is pretty funny though

 

[NameLlama]

Any Nigerian friends on namepros?

 

[Rob Monster]

From a technical standpoint, I really admire the effort and I understand what is trying to be accomplished.

From a business standpoint, mixed in with the CEO being very vocal about divisive, controversial topics, I am just very confused as to how this is a smart business move.

Tia, I appreciate you. Why? First of all, you are in this with your real name and you post what is on your heart. Do I wish you were less harsh and not judgmental? Sure but you are enabling a great debate.

As for Frank, he is a client and I don't know him super well. He is less logical in his arguments and I think he said he is done with this thread so I am counting on you, Llama and a few others now.

At some point, I think the Christians and Truthseekers will stop being cowards and will start engaging in this thread. When that happens, and it will, things will get really interesting.

So specific to the plan, what do you think of this?

- Engage hardened atheists in debates that they can never win while spreading the Gospel and relentlessly dropping truth bombs and sending people down rabbit holes as they search for truth.

- Use social media to trigger social justice warriors into greatly increasing brand awareness of Epik while concurrently providing a vast number of authoritative backlinks to various Epik products.

- Pray without ceasing for everyone who finds this thread in the hope that they will find the truth and that it will set them free.

- Invite all the people whose lives were made better because of free speech and for being introduced to life-changing truth to use Epik products, help us improve them, and to amplify Epik on social media.

- Lay up treasures in heaven by saving souls and looking forward to spending eternity with tens of thousands of people who will benefit from these discussions, both directly and indirectly.

Mind you, this was not pre-meditated. It really just came into my head this morning based on the input from this thread. I just wanted to share a rough framework.

By the way, we are now at an impressive 25,844 views on this thread which is almost as much as the famous Gab thread from October 2018. I know this was supposed to be a beat-down but I like it.

Thanks in advance. And do check out BitMitigate.com. I think I would be prepared to pay you to use it. If interested, let's discuss offline. I am serious. Not trolling.

 

[Tia Wood]

Sure. Why not. I could use a couple grand. I like my treasures on Earth.

 

[NameLlama]

OK LAST ONE..

THOSE DIRTY IMMINGRANTS wITH LOW IQ lol

Why surround yourself with these racists..hm..

 

[Rob Monster]

OK LAST ONE..

THOSE DIRTY IMMINGRANTS wITH LOW IQ lol

Why surround yourself with these racists..hm..

This was all before Epik acquired BitMitigate. I doubt he has posted such stuff since. We have had a lot of philosophical talks. He is not a Christian. In fact, for now, I think he is a hardened atheist.

I am actually quite confident that the Nick Lim that emerges over the next few years will not only be a great technologist but also an articulate and thoughtful humanitarian.

That being said, Nick's comments are in the same general range as what Nobel prize winner James Watson was known to say before the scientific establishment unpersoned him:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ligence-his-lab-just-stripped-him-his-titles/

Dr. Watson was actually referencing data. He offended some folks. It eventually caught up with him, when someone decided to make an example of him.

Racism, and perceived racism still happens too often. It happened last week right here in my community and has all of Seattle talking:

http://mynorthwest.com/1333132/issaquah-high-school-photo-parents/

I am sure this young woman regrets that choice and that she will be humbled by the complete lack of tact or discernment. Her folly cost her a college scholarship and has caused her family embarrassment.

One can debate nature versus nurture. The experiment has been run in South Africa. You can observe the empirical data of before, during and after. There are geniuses and idiots in every race.

All that said, I am definitely not a racist and am 100% adamant that everyone deserves to be treated as individuals, and to take personal responsibility for their choices.