What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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I don't like to see anyone here be turned into the prey of a feeding frenzy. I am confident that enough share this sentiment that some momentum will build. It weakens the integrity of this forum when a member is figuratively danced around and kicked by passersby. That is what this is devolving to. If this were about Trump, Kardashian, etc. I'd be all for it. But not a member of this community. It does not foster strength.
 
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I don't like to see anyone here be turned into the prey of a feeding frenzy. I am confident that enough share this sentiment that some momentum will build. It weakens the integrity of this forum when a member is figuratively danced around and kicked by passersby. That is what this is devolving to. If this were about Trump, Kardashian, etc. I'd be all for it. But not a member of this community. It does not foster strength,

Rob is more than welcome to come here and defend himself, apologize, or say whatever he wants.

So far he has chosen not to do that. That is his choice.

Brad
 
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Yes, several people already commented on that in this thread. They could have just linked to the fundraiser if they wanted, without promoting their extension and taking an obvious shot at Rob.

Brad

Worse yet, XYZ didn’t just stop and post here, they have proactively plastered that stupid URL in other domainer blog comments.
 
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Worse yet, XYZ didn’t just stop and post here, they have proactively plastered that stupid URL in other domainer blog comments.

Guys, XYZ is not promoting hate or giving hate a platform. Lets not lose sight of the issue.
 
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Rob is more than welcome to come here and defend himself, apologize, or say whatever he wants.

So far he has chosen not to do that. That is his choice.

Brad

And if this brand new member thinks this is something off the chart, someone get him in touch with Adam Dicker, Shane Bellone, Jonathan from NameJet.
 
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Runaway train... this thread, I mean... where's Denzel (Washington) and Chris (Pine) when you need them? :xf.wink:

Even the normally levelheaded Dr Berryhill lost it completely and let loose a whole salvo! :xf.eek:

But, please, nobody even think of stopping!

@Slanted, don't listen to them, keep posting more, keep adding fuel to the fire, lest it burn itself out :sneaky:

More popcorn, anyone? :ROFL:
 
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Guys, XYZ is not promoting hate or giving hate a platform. Lets not lose sight of the issue.

Wow. I got my first dislike ever for the above post. Care to share why you don't like it? @equity78
 
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I'm not saying they're not stupid. But that is a separate issue and on a completely different level. Let's not conflate the two. Open a separate thread for that.

Fair point but they did the conflating by coming here and doing that, they could have started a thread here instead of posting in here.
 
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There is also a reason in threads like this especially I wish there were more buttons, I have always believed dislike should be disagree, it's not an attack, it's disagreeing.
 
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Fair point but they did the conflating by coming here and doing that, they could have started a thread here instead of posting in here.

Okay, but let's not let them distract us. The original issue is far too important to get distracted by these sideshows.
 
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But let's see the answers for this, how do we come to an amicable settlement. What is it people want to see happen that winds down the thread?

Do they want Rob fired?
Sell the company?
Exiled?
Willing to forgive under certain circumstances and apologies from Rob?
Infinite debate that will never end as there is no amicable solution?
 
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But let's see the answers for this, how do we come to an amicable settlement. What is it people want to see happen that winds down the thread?

Do they want Rob fired?
Sell the company?
Exiled?
Willing to forgive under certain circumstances?
Infinite debate that will never end as there is no amicable solution?

I want to see what the Epik's moral compass looks like. I don't want to tell them what to do. I want Epik to show me what doing the right thing is for them. Then let the community make the final decision.
 
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But let's see the answers for this, how do we come to an amicable settlement. What is it people want to see happen that winds down the thread?

Do they want Rob fired?
Sell the company?
Exiled?
Willing to forgive under certain circumstances?
Infinite debate that will never end as there is no amicable solution?

I want him to address his actions.

If it was a mistake we can hear it directly from him.
If he wants to defend his actions he can do that as well.

This is a small industry, just choosing the option to be quiet and hope it blows over is not an option.

Brad
 
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EpikFail.net also taken, since 2015!

@Slanted... looks like somebody's been quietly working towards this end for years! Are you sure this was really Rob? Seems more and more like some kind of provocation by Escrow.com et all, aimed at Epik! HugeDomains also involved! You know what they say... once is an accident; twice is coincidence; but the third time it's enemy action! :xf.wink::xf.wink::xf.wink:

Clarification, since emotions are running hot here: I'm making light of all heated posts here; Dr Berryhill's emotional loss of self control; conspiracy theories galore; Epik's well deserved predicament, engineered by its CEO, no less; and Joseph's enlightening and masterful spin, nevertheless counterproductive, as I'd warned him it would turn out to be... to be sure, I am not making light of the underlying horrible tragedy in Christchurch!
 
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We are sorry to see this in our industry. Our registry has donated to support the victims of this horrific tragedy, and we are gathering support from others as well.

If you'd like to join us in helping the victims, please visit http://Give.Monster to donate. Thank you for your support.

You may want to rethink your marketing strategy. You just showed the biggest domain community your lack of good taste. No matter what your opionion is on the matter being discussed, pathetic move.
 
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You may want to rethink your marketing strategy. You just showed the biggest domain community your lack of good taste. No matter what your opionion is on the matter being discussed, pathetic move.
They should get together with... Rob Monster :xf.smile:

Both seem to share the sensitivity of pissed off rhinos, more or less (n)
 
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@Slanted
You write very well, and you seem like a decent person. But I think your stint at Epik will be a stain on your CV.
You like long posts, I can summarize it all in a few sentences.
As said before, there is no wall between Epik and the CEO/founder. RM is Epik, Epik is RM.
So what RM does in a personal capacity affects the company as a whole.

Epik is not simply hosting controversial customers, but it has actively sought their business (rather than just let come and tolerate their presence). I wonder why.

Somebody who is adamant about free speech, should help organizations that actually fight against censorship and for free speech. For example I'd rather help outfits like Acccess now, Qurium, Telecomix and the like. Or EDRI, or Privacy International or whatever. There is plenty of choice, I am just quoting a few from the top of my head.
Epik is not reaching out to those groups, but has chosen to pander to a particular segment of the alt-right (broadly speaking).
So this is not a free speech issue here, it is about the pursuance of a political agenda.

Regardless of anyone's intentions, the fact is that Epik hurts people (through statements that are dismissive of other people's sorrow), and it supports people who are dedicated to hurting other people.
Again Epik is not a passive party but is actively abetting those people. The nuance is very important here.

Look, lots of people don't like the alt-right, but they could still brush aside the radical opinions of their registrar's CEO. What people are now thinking, is that if they financially support Epik, then they indirectly contribute to those nefarious groups too. Not everybody is willing to be dragged into some kind of self-defeating crusade. People were looking for a registrar and expecting a business relationship built on certain values. The core registrar activity seems to have taken the back seat.

It's as simple as that.
Actions always carry more weight than words. Words don't kill, but actions can be deadly.
No ifs and buts please.
 
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