question What's going on with .bet?

[WhoaDomain.com]

I recently checked domains on .bet that I swear were taken back when .bet did sunrise.

I swear they were taken by domainers.

But now they show regged since early this year.

When you see these domains you will see when I'm scratching my head.

American.bet
USA.bet
Cards.bet

Even Dice.bet recent reg this year plus no history of drop????
These are obvious low hanging fruit. So how is it there is no history of drop when I know for sure they were taken when I last checked in 2016.

I remember because I was jealous! Lol

Could these have been reserved by registry? Then released in 2017?

Or sold amongst domainers? Doubt it because why does it say regged in 2017?

Plus there's others "in the wild" right now that I'm sure was taken when I checked back in 2016.


Am I losing my mind?

 

[Kuffy]

All these shenanigans put me off investing in the alt TLDs. I've even decided to back away from xyz, and I was a keen supporter not so long ago. I've got fed up with .net price rises, so I'll get rid of those as well.

 

[dordomai]

Am I losing my mind?

Probably not but only you can answer this question. Perhaps they were released and bought at a later point in time?

Xenical.xyz

this is TM i think. The generic name Orlistat might be OK.

 

[ArabExplorer]

I've been dealing with the same question these last few weeks.
See, I regged USA.review a while ago.
All of a sudden it showed up as available and not regged, so I went through and purchased.
3 days later, domain still not in my account but still available to reg.
Contacted the registrar and asked what the problem was.
Received as answer: we'll refund, we keep trying but it's not working although it's not regged.
2 days later the domain showed as a premium with an xx xxx price (still not regged though!)
I think some premiums are unavailable because they are being held back until someone is willing to pay a premium price! And that's why some don't have history until someone pays enough cash.

 

[Kuffy]

Probably not but only you can answer this question. Perhaps they were released and bought at a later point in time?



this is TM i think. The generic name Orlistat might be OK.

I got it for peanuts to pick up the traffic generated by the previous owner, and didn't ever put a site on it. I have no plans to use it, and I think it resolves to a NS parking page. I understand it's OK as long as it isn't connected with pharma.

 

[dordomai]

I got it for peanuts to pick up the traffic generated by the previous owner, and didn't ever put a site on it. I have no plans to use it, and I think it resolves to a NS parking page. I understand it's OK as long as it isn't connected with pharma.

this is wrong interpretation of TM law IMO. You can use a generic word like apple if you don't use it for something technology related.

If you have a made up word (e.g. Microsoft) then you can not use it at all in any niche.

I think Xenical is a made up word. Might be wrong though.

For example Viagra can not be used at all in a domain and Pfizer would file an UDRP if they find out.

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=D2014-1854

The VIAGRA Mark is a coined and fanciful term having no denotative meaning. It is universally recognized and relied upon as identifying Pfizer as the sole source of the drug, and as distinguishing Pfizer's product from the goods and services of others. As a result, the VIAGRA Mark has acquired substantial goodwill and is an extremely valuable commercial asset. Numerous UDRP decisions have recognized Complainant's well-established rights in the VIAGRA Mark.

B. Rights or Legitimate Interests
Complainant asserts that Respondents do not have any rights or legitimate interests in the Domain Name because: (1) there is no affiliation between Pfizer and Respondents, nor has Pfizer authorized Respondents to register or use the Domain Name or the VIAGRA Mark for any purpose; (2)

Not a lawyer but this is how I understand it.

 

[dordomai]

here a related case:

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0323.html

The Complainant's primary contentions can be summarised as follows:

(a) Although the Domain Name incorporates the word “ALLI”, a third party's trade mark, the Domain Name is still confusingly similar to the Complainant's XENICAL mark.

(b) The Respondent has no rights in the word XENICAL, nor was the Respondent licensed or otherwise authorised by the Complainant to use XENICAL in the Domain Name.

(c) The Respondent's website is a search engine with sponsored links. This does not constitute use of the Domain Name for the bona fide offering of goods, but rather demonstrates an intention to benefit from the reputation of the XENICAL mark and illegitimately trade on its fame for commercial gain and profit.

(d) The Respondent registered the Domain Name in bad faith as there was no doubt that the Respondent had knowledge of the Complainant's XENICAL product/mark.

(e) The Respondent had used the Domain Name in bad faith as it had included links of products in direct competition with the Complainant's products and by doing so it has been capitalising on the fame of the Complainant's XENICAL trade mark.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

The .bets I posted. I checked on domain tools and they show no drops but does show regged this year about June July .

We're these owned by afilias? I don't think so because I do remember them having whois of a regular person not afilias.

Just annoyed because I really wanted these ?

I remember cards.bet I tried to handreg at sunrise.

Couldn't as someone beat me to it and checked the whois.

So for sure it was regged

But now it's regged in 2017? Weird!

 

[Asfas1000]

usa.bet $2200/yr, the others $13/yr ?

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

usa.bet $2200/yr, the others $13/yr ?

What? No it's taken buddy. That's buy now price by owner.

 

[Asfas1000]

What? No it's taken buddy. That's buy now price by owner.

That's the renewals taken from https://tldpros.com/usa.bet

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

That's the renewals taken from https://tldpros.com/usa.bet

Ahhh could THAT be why there's no history of drop on these? These are owned by Afilias and these people are renting these domains from them? So drops aren't shown?

It would make sense. Since these are " low hanging fruit".

I was hoping thee owners were on namepros and would chime in here.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Hmmm cards.bet shows regged earlier this year but has history since 2016? Huh?

 

[ikhub]

I bet there will be some initial sales, but later there will be hardly anyone to bet on .bet

 

[dordomai]

.bet does not do well. I would forget about it.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

usa.bet $2200/yr, the others $13/yr ?

Where is .bet $13?

 

[Asfas1000]

Where is .bet $13?

I don't know, I found the price from tldpros. This appears to be the ballpark for "non premiums" .bet's

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Anyone ever though of .bet as

Black Entertainment Channel?


I see Rap.bet afilias has reserved it and it renews at $97 a year?? Lol