advice What Programming Language is useful for a domainer?

[Sammy Jakes]

I have some free time now and I would like to learn coding.
I would like to know what programming language is useful for a domainer and what specific domaining problem can I solve with it?
Thanks

 

[TCK]

In addition to core programming languages, there are frameworks. Frameworks basically are reusable functions or libraries of code created on a specific programming language. So, Wordpress is not just a CMS but also a framework. Most CMS use frameworks. Learning a framework is like learning a programming language. But if you learn a programming language it does not mean you can program in the framework based on that language.

The point is, don't go on a tangent to learn a programming language because someone tells you it will help in domaining, unless you are completely invested long term.

 

[kam]

I mainly use.net framework (vb.net c#) to develop my own software.

 

[poweredbyme]

I have some free time now and I would like to learn coding.
I would like to know what programming language is useful for a domainer and what specific domaining problem can I solve with it?
Thanks

I don't think a domainer will need to write codes.
Excel+Word will suffice.

However, if you are a serious domainer or a person who is making money online, you need to learn linux and use a linux operating system on your everday laptop/desktop which you use for business.

 

[ArielT]

I don't think a domainer will need to write codes.
Excel+Word will suffice.

However, if you are a serious domainer or a person who is making money online, you need to learn linux and use a linux operating system on your everday laptop/desktop which you use for business.

Why Linux?

Thanks

 

[dna]

I have made dozens of web sites using nothing but HTML.

An examples is :

https://www.fiction.us

You can't learn everything at once so start simply.
HTML is the first thing you should master.
Not that I feel that I have mastered it.
I first decide what I want to do.
Then I figure out how to do it.
I do nothing more.
I am not trying to learn web design.
I am designing web sites.

As you make changes to your HTML web sites, you will
run into a problem, and that problem is the cache.
You will make changes to your HTML web pages, ftp those
changes to your host server, and then visit your web site
with your home computer, and you won't see the changes
that you just made. That is because your home computer
will display the web page that is saved in your cache
rather then the web page that is currently in your host server.
You can get around that for a while by pushing Control F5.
But, eventually, even Control F5 won't defeat your cache.
And of course the people who visit
your web site regularly will have the same cache problem
and you can't tell them to type Control F5.

At this point you will want to design your web pages using PHP.
Your home computer does not store PHP code in the cache and
you can find anything you want to know about PHP online.
When I can, I design in HTML first, and then write code in PHP
which creates that same HTML web page. This is what I am doing
with...

https://www.filmz.us

You are getting a lot of horrible advice here.
Horrible advice is what you should expect in Namepros.
Get used to it.

 

[poweredbyme]

Why Linux?

Thanks

For security, performance, privacy and freedom. If you don't want to lose your domains you have to use a linux operating system on your business devices. Linux is open source. Linux based operating systems such as Debian is not owned by profit oriented companies. This is very important in my opinion. Debian is free of charge, download and install on your business device if you value your privacy and financial security. I strongly recommend Debian to everyone.

You can learn progamming languages later. I know several programming languages. But I have almost never needed to use. I am a webmaster. I manage my own web servers on Debian. I use debian on my everyday laptop too. I keep thousands of dollars worth of cyrptocurrencies on my Debian laptop without any fear for hacking. So if you a serious player on online business, you have to use a Debian desktop, in my personal opinion.

 

[TCK]

I have made dozens of web sites using nothing but HTML.

An examples is :

https://www.fiction.us

You can't learn everything at once so start simply.
HTML is the first thing you should master.
Not that I feel that I have mastered it.
I first decide what I want to do.
Then I figure out how to do it.
I do nothing more.
I am not trying to learn web design.
I am designing web sites.

As you make changes to your HTML web sites, you will
run into a problem, and that problem is the cache.
You will make changes to your HTML web pages, ftp those
changes to your host server, and then visit your web site
with your home computer, and you won't see the changes
that you just made. That is because your home computer
will display the web page that is saved in your cache
rather then the web page that is currently in your host server.
You can get around that for a while by pushing Control F5.
But, eventually, even Control F5 won't defeat your cache.
And of course the people who visit
your web site regularly will have the same cache problem
and you can't tell them to type Control F5.

At this point you will want to design your web pages using PHP.
Your home computer does not store PHP code in the cache and
you can find anything you want to know about PHP online.
When I can, I design in HTML first, and then write code in PHP
which creates that same HTML web page. This is what I am doing
with...

You can do much with just HTML and CSS. That's how I got started. In the beginning I used to code in Notepad then FTP the files to the server.

There is a beauty in keeping sites simple. Learning htaccess is also very helpful.

You are getting a lot of horrible advice here.
Horrible advice is what you should expect in Namepros.
Get used to it.

Rather than making a sweeping statement such as this one, it would be helpful to your NP'er friends if you would specify and correct the bad advice.

 

[dna]

you cannot use just one language to build a website.

if you use PHP (server-side), you will also need to utilize Javascript

A domainer should focus on domaining

You need to be versed in a number of languages to be able to create complete websites.

How about I just quote all the things that you said that were incorrect.

 

[TCK]

How about I just quote all the things that you said that were incorrect.

Fine by me. Now, would you care explain why those quotes are incorrect? That is a fair ask, don't you think?

 

[Samer]

Fine by me. Now, would you care explain why those quotes are incorrect? That is a fair ask, don't you think?

Fair and objective as gets for pushback to pushback, watching this back-& forth.

Unless you have ESP, your reply is fair

Samer

 

[noneisnone]

i found vb.net to be the most useful mostly use it to automate api calls and store the data in a database to filter through

 

[Samer]

i found vb.net to be the most useful

.net!! Gasp

 

[noneisnone]

@Samer :D :D

 

[BradWilson]

I have made dozens of web sites using nothing but HTML.

An examples is :

https://www.fiction.us

You can't learn everything at once so start simply.
HTML is the first thing you should master.
Not that I feel that I have mastered it.
I first decide what I want to do.
Then I figure out how to do it.
I do nothing more.
I am not trying to learn web design.
I am designing web sites.

As you make changes to your HTML web sites, you will
run into a problem, and that problem is the cache.
You will make changes to your HTML web pages, ftp those
changes to your host server, and then visit your web site
with your home computer, and you won't see the changes
that you just made. That is because your home computer
will display the web page that is saved in your cache
rather then the web page that is currently in your host server.
You can get around that for a while by pushing Control F5.
But, eventually, even Control F5 won't defeat your cache.
And of course the people who visit
your web site regularly will have the same cache problem
and you can't tell them to type Control F5.

At this point you will want to design your web pages using PHP.
Your home computer does not store PHP code in the cache and
you can find anything you want to know about PHP online.
When I can, I design in HTML first, and then write code in PHP
which creates that same HTML web page. This is what I am doing
with...

https://www.filmz.us

You are getting a lot of horrible advice here.
Horrible advice is what you should expect in Namepros.
Get used to it.

I'd seriously recommend using a website validator on your websites before suggesting the advice given here is "horrible".

Your example websites fail miserably

 

[dna]

Fine by me. Now, would you care explain why those quotes are incorrect? That is a fair ask, don't you think?

You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so.
You can use PHP without using Javascript. I have done so.
And who are you to tell someone to focus on domaining?
Designing web sites is a natural progression for domainers
and we all should be well rounded people, and continually evolving our skills.

 

[dna]

I'd seriously recommend using a website validator on your websites before suggesting the advice given here is "horrible".

Your example websites fail miserably

I know it fails the W3 test. I don't care and neither do the people who read the books on my website.

 

[BradWilson]

You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so.
You can use PHP without using Javascript. I have done so.
And who are you to tell someone to focus on domaining?
Designing web sites is a natural progression for domainers
and we all should be well rounded people, and continually evolving our skills.

I'm having a real difficult time staying positive with my replies to you.

Yes, you can TRY to use HTML and php but as your example websites prove, if not used CORRECTLY they will fail miserably.

 

[BradWilson]

I know it fails the W3 test. I don't care and neither do the people who read the books on my website.

That maybe so, BUT Google does care and I'm very confident you're losing traffic and ranking poorly in the search engines because of all the errors.

 

[TCK]

You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so.
You can use PHP without using Javascript. I have done so.
And who are you to tell someone to focus on domaining?
Designing web sites is a natural progression for domainers
and we all should be well rounded people, and continually evolving our skills.

Either you have very limited skills or are ignorant or both. Here's why:

First, I doubt you used PHP without also at least using HTML/CSS. If you use PHP but stay away from javascript means you are very limited in PHP and/or a lazy developer.

I didn't say domainers should not learn a programming language, but they should only dive into it if they are invested long term. It would make more sense, time-wise, to learn a CMS.

I don't know if it is a proven fact that "Designing web sites is a natural progression for domainers".

Finally, you have not addressed one single quote you copied of mine and explain why it is incorrect.

 

[dna]

Yes, you can TRY to use HTML and php but as your example websites prove, if not used CORRECTLY they will fail miserably.

Exactly what do they fail except for the W3 test. They appear perfect to the user in all browsers.
It is not worth the effort to spend the time required to pass the W3 test. I would have to go
through more than one thousand web pages. I wouldn't take the time to repair one page to
pass the W3 test. I have better things to do.