advice What Programming Language is useful for a domainer?

[Sammy Jakes]

I have some free time now and I would like to learn coding.
I would like to know what programming language is useful for a domainer and what specific domaining problem can I solve with it?
Thanks

 

[TCK]

It should also be stressed that the purpose of learning a language, programming or otherwise, is to be able to customize and edit sites, not just build them from scratch. With so many tools available why would you want to do that? In order to be able to make customizations you need to be versed in PHP, Javascript, HTML, and CSS at the very least.

 

[TCK]

Exactly what do they fail except for the W3 test. They appear perfect to the user in all browsers.
It is not worth the effort to spend the time required to pass the W3 test. I would have to go
through more than one thousand web pages. I wouldn't take the time to repair one page to
pass the W3 test. I have better things to do.

This shows you have a very basic knowledge of Web design. If you knew what you were doing you would be able to edit the sites, even with 1000s of pages, with only a few edits. But that is beyond the scope of this thread. In your case, you would need to edit those 1000s of pages individually because you did it the wrong way from the start.

 

[BradWilson]

Exactly what do they fail except for the W3 test. They appear perfect to the user in all browsers.
It is not worth the effort to spend the time required to pass the W3 test. I would have to go
through more than one thousand web pages. I wouldn't take the time to repair one page to
pass the W3 test. I have better things to do.

If you actually were using php correctly you won't have to go through all the pages to make the corrections manually.

That's because using php correctly will allow you to automate the creation of all your pages. You would make any corrections needed to fix the errors ONCE and then let php generate all the corrected pages for you.

 

[BradWilson]

You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so.

Actually this is incorrect.

You have actually used HTML and CSS just not very well.

Also, since you added StatCounter and Google AdSense you are even using JavaScript.

The problem here is lumping everything together into one file and repeating that over and over.

Instead, keep each element separate.

For example:

• HTML for the structure
• CSS for the styling
• MySQL or some other database to store each record

Php or some other technology can then combine all of it together for you and take care of all the hidden details.

That's the smarter and best way to go.

So the easiest way to do this if you don't want to learn all the gory details and there are a ton of details, is to use a CMS like Wordpress.

 

[dna]

Additionally, you cannot use just one language to build a website. Dynamic websites (i.e. websites that use more than just HTML/CSS) need a combination of programming languages that include both server-side and browser-side languages. So if you use PHP (server-side), you will also need to utilize Javascript (browser-side). There is a method of updating pages that is called AJAX which combines different languages. So there is no one useful programming language. You need to be versed in a number of languages to be able to create complete websites.

You obviously are incapable of honesty. You say that if you use PHP you will also need to use Javascript.
That is not true. I have used PHP without using Javascript. The filmz.us website uses PHP and does not use Javascript. I have used Javascript and PHP together on a website that allows users to upload mp4 videos to their own webpages. You say that you cannot use just one language to build a website. That is clearly ridiculous. I am an electrical engineer and have never worked as a web designer. I learn how to do things as I need them. But, I still know stupidity when I hear it.

 

[mr-x]

I have some free time now and I would like to learn coding.
I would like to know what programming language is useful for a domainer and what specific domaining problem can I solve with it?
Thanks

Start with PHP or Javascript. If you want to make big money, become an expert in ruby.

This is a good place to start. Lots of other resources. Feel free to ask me questions about PHP.
https://www.freecodecamp.org/

 

[BradWilson]

You obviously are incapable of honesty. You say that if you use PHP you will also need to use Javascript.
That is not true. I have used PHP without using Javascript. The filmz.us website uses PHP and does not use Javascript. I have used Javascript and PHP together on a website that allows users to upload mp4 videos to their own webpages. You say that you cannot use just one language to build a website. That is clearly ridiculous. I am an electrical engineer and have never worked as a web designer. I learn how to do things as I need them. But, I still know stupidity when I hear it.

I think the problem here is a misunderstanding of the terms being used.

"Dynamic websites" DO need JavaScript or they aren't Dynamic - Period.

Uploading files is a very basic function and in no way demonstrates you know how to use php or JavaScript.

I've been a programmer for over 30 years and NOTHING that TCK has written is untrue and in fact I agree almost 100% with what he has written. There are a few minor details I'd tweak a bit.

 

[mr-x]

Flame wars aside.. most modern websites use a combination of languages, PHP and Javscript are the most common.

HTML and CSS are not programming languages in the traditional sense but are template / layout rules.

You can do a lot with CSS but you will eventually need Javascript to process data.

Wordpress is the most common / popular program used to build websites. It uses PHP and Javscript. Learning either will not be a waste of time.

 

[BradWilson]

Neither HTML nor CSS is going to be of much use to domainers.

Probably more so than a programming language, most domainers would benefit from learning how to use formulas in spreadsheets and a sophisticated text editor, such as Sublime Text (including its keyboard shortcuts and regular expressions).

You'd be able to significantly increase your efficiency in dealing with large lists of domains.

We hope that helps.

Regarding text editors...

It appears Visual Studio Code is the leading FREE editor of choice these days and I'm now using it

Okay maybe 3rd ha

 

[mr-x]

The filmz.us website uses PHP and does not use Javascript.

Great website.

 

[dna]

Uploading files is a very basic function and in no way demonstrates you know how to use php or JavaScript.

I don't claim to be an expert web designer. That does not mean that I can't recognize baloney when I see it.
When you say that I am incorrect in saying "You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so"
shows that you are completely dishonest. You have to know that it is possible to build a website just using HTML and you know that Google Adsense and Statcounter are not necessary for any website.
And you don't know how many other HTML websites that I have that have no Javascript or Adsense.

That maybe so, BUT Google does care and I'm very confident you're losing traffic and ranking poorly in the search engines because of all the errors.

I designed fiction.us many years ago, before I knew what CSS or PHP was. According to Statcounter,
fiction.us has had over 630,000 visitors. There are Universities that list fiction.us as one of the best sites to read free public domain novels. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

 

[karamakate]

I'm a PHP guy. I've already wrote many tools with vanilla PHP, HTML and JS to help me to find proper domain names.

But If I had a chance to start from the beginning, I would go for Python.
Since domaining is all about playing with words, Python has just sufficient libraries to play with datasets and word lists.

But any of those options would work if you can learn how to use them.

 

[mr-x]

.. and what specific domaining problem can I solve with it?
Thanks

Mod team is correct, a spread sheet is very valuable. If you go deeper and want to download and process registry files, PHP, Ruby Perl are great choices.

If you want to build something like dotdb.com or instantdomainsearch.com, you'll need a real programming language.

 

[mr-x]

I'm a PHP guy. I've already wrote many tools with vanilla PHP, HTML and JS to help me to find proper domain names.

But If I had a chance to start from the beginning, I would go for Python.
Since domaining is all about playing with words, Python has just sufficient libraries to play with datasets and word lists.

But any of those options would work if you can learn how to use them.

Python is a great choice too. Great for scraping websites.

 

[mr-x]

I wonder if Sammy regrets he question yet.

 

[TCK]

You obviously are incapable of honesty. You say that if you use PHP you will also need to use Javascript.
That is not true. I have used PHP without using Javascript. The filmz.us website uses PHP and does not use Javascript. I have used Javascript and PHP together on a website that allows users to upload mp4 videos to their own webpages. You say that you cannot use just one language to build a website. That is clearly ridiculous. I am an electrical engineer and have never worked as a web designer. I learn how to do things as I need them. But, I still know stupidity when I hear it.

Wow. You are bold indeed. Not very smart, but bold. I have built websites using just html and notepad back in 1995. But in today's world, this won't get you anywhere. Get real and get smart. Why would you learn only PHP? How far would that get you if you don't learn SQL? Javascript is part of every website. And HTML without CSS is third grade web design. At this point, I wouldn't hire you as an electrical engineer. Sorry to be so blunt but you are sounding more and more ridiculous. Obviously things are not working your way because if you need to change something on your 1000 pages you would have to do it individually.

 

[mr-x]

...if you need to change something on your 1000 pages you would have to do it individually.

You've never heard of perl or ruby? let's lighten up, dna isn't building website for customers.

 

[TCK]

You've never heard of perl or ruby? let's lighten up, dna isn't building website for customers.

True. And he did state he is not a web designer. The point is that he is painting an unrealistic picture that can cost someone a lot of lost time and frustration.

 

[BradWilson]

When you say that I am incorrect in saying "You can build a website just using HTML. I have done so"
shows that you are completely dishonest. You have to know that it is possible to build a website just using HTML and you know that Google Adsense and Statcounter are not necessary for any website.

I think you are way off base here saying that I'm "completely dishonest".

I never said you can't build a website using ONLY HTML at all. A website without any CSS would look very bare indeed.

I was referring to the website you gave as an example which is using both HTML and CSS.

That's why you are incorrect because that is NOT what you gave as an example.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

I am definitely not wrong here and my 30+ years as a successful programmer is definitely enough to prove that.

So yes let's all move on and be more positive

 

[mr-x]

True. And he did state he is not a web designer. The point is that he is painting an unrealistic picture that can cost someone a lot of lost time and frustration.

I don't know. Anyone using an API or processing data will find the limitations quickly. What works for dna wont work for most people.