What is going on with GoDaddy Auctions!

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  1. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    So, you don't usually see bids on names if they just hit the GD expired auction (unless they are premium or 4L names) with 9 days left. i was looking at expiring names today and these sh*t names have bids on them already, wtf am i missing???

    So i did a general sample search of 500 names on GD exp auctions

    There were 140 with initial bids (excluding 4L's) - that's almost 30% of the names with pre bids.

    So even if no else bids on these names - that's over $3k in auction/renewal fee's (just on the sample i did - there are most likely 100's or 1,000's more)

    Here are a few random sample names - Am i totally missing something?

    vtmoon.com $12 * USD$ 9D 23H
    lagocel.com $12 * USD$ 9D 23H
    darubazz.com $12 * USD$ 9D 22H
    dongwww.com $12 * USD$ 9D 22H
    mbucd.com $12 * USD$ 9D 22H
    wildgrfx.com $12 * USD$ 9D 22H
    cmkmg.com $12 * USD$ 9D 22H
     
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    hookbox Active Member VIP

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    Do all of these names have valuations over $1,000 or less than $1,000?
     
  3. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    i checked back and 99% of them have a valuation over $1k

    Its a sample i took of 500 names and it only looks like it was done last night
     
  4. hookbox

    hookbox Active Member VIP

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    it looks like someone actually thnks the valuation tool is accurate. LOL :)
     
  5. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    i wonder if its godaddy that is putting pre bids on names, hmmmm......:sneaky:
     
  6. hookbox

    hookbox Active Member VIP

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    I thought that exact thing. So easy to get more eyeballs on names especially 10 days in advance.
     
  7. hookbox

    hookbox Active Member VIP

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    It's interesting that all the ones you list here are at least 4 years old. Curious to know what the age is of the others that have bids.
     
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    range from 1 - 10+ years

    i cant see any correlation, between the bids and the names, traffic is low, names for the most park are sub-par,
     
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    mbucd.com

    Mercedes Benz Used Car Department

    That makes it worth the value for sure


    For those who don't understand sarcasm, here is the closest emoticon :xf.rolleyes:
     
  10. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    here a few more wtf samples;

    fanninmn.com $12 * USD$ 9D 16H (you need a mouth full of marbles to say this word)
     
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    A word ??
     
  12. ValleyRock

    ValleyRock Sales and Outreach

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    If you watched last domain sherpa show, you find Shane's associate is totally playing the game by default. To him it's just a numbers game. He buys as many domains as possible, and waits for a sale.

    If your probability is good. You know the more domains he has the more chances he has to make money. He manages cost by buying at minimum price $12.

    However, GD has so many domains at least 20% of the best of the best are bought for the minimum (nobody finds them). Half of the domainers I know are vultures waiting for the buy signal.
     
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    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    Makes zero sense, if you are going to bid on names you don't do it straight out of the gate, it just tips others off

    I did another sample 500 name search with 9+ days - 220 names had the auto-valuation

    123 names with 1 bid (non premium and non 4L) - 25%
    122 of those names with one bid had the new auto-valuation by GD 99%

    2% of the names with one bid i would consider as being ok, the rest i wouldn't have even hand registered.
     
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    Nat Hunt Business Member Business Account VIP

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    @urlurl You should definitely hold onto that list of 140 as it will be interesting to see if there is one individual who ends up winning most of them. Yeah this is pretty bizarre.
     
  15. ValleyRock

    ValleyRock Sales and Outreach

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    1. did try u a masswhois lookup on those names ; seem you can program, so it should be easy enough using python and cheap vps from scaleway.
    2. Check the starting price. There are two price ranges here
      • $10
      • $12
     
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    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    not a bad idea, i have the sample of names saved
     
  17. kostaki

    kostaki Member ExpiredDomains.net

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    I have a separate list of all godaddy auctions with bids and I noticed this jump as well. Yesterday in around 3 hours the number of auctions with bids jumped from 2500 to 16000.

    My guess is that this is/was an automated bidding script that is used to the old valuation system. Lets see what happens today.
     
  18. satyadeep singh

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    very interesting thought, how can i grab good domain in GD expired or closeout section in $10 or $12?
     
  19. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    you only can, assuming no one else bids + you have to pay the renewal fee
     
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    And i still continues. I did another sample of 500 names to on the fresh expired auctions posted last night

    216 had 1 bid... that's 43% of my sample!

    Almost all have the new GD valuation (but there are several GD Valuations without bids too)

    Does anyone see the value in these names, are we missing something?

    Name | Bid(s) | GD Valuation | Start Price | Time Left
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    jbhhq.com 1 - $1,557 $12 * USD$ 10D 4H
    ottitime.com 1 - $1,356 $12 * USD$ 10D 4H
    itrker.com 1 - $1,161 $12 * USD$ 10D 4H
    nodemtl.com 1 - $1,283 $12 * USD$ 10D 4H
    tbgpr.com 1 - $1,514 $12 * USD$ 10D 4H
     
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    kostaki Member ExpiredDomains.net

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    The number of auctions with bids went up from 16000 to 28000 now.
     
  22. urlurl

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    I wonder if its GD putting pre bids in themselves, it would great to get the GD rep on here to weigh in,
     
  23. hookbox

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    Do you really think he's going to come on here and say Yes? :)

    I was thinking that they will remove their bid but you can't on an expired auction. Pretty sure you can on any other type of auction.
     
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  24. urlurl

    urlurl Active Member VIP

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    it can't be one guy/company with 28,000 bids. That's $336,000 auction fee's + $237,720 in renew fee's - $573,720 cost for expired names?

    something is amiss :sneaky:
     
  25. Ategy.com

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    I can say with about 99.99% certainty that (in this context) that is not at all what @ikehook was talking about on @DomainSherpa ...

    It certainly is a numbers game . .and he likely buys a lot more than most domainers .. but where I'm sure he would strongly disagree is that you should not just buy up any domains just for the sake of having a higher "number" of domains. Unless the domains aren't of a minimum quality or desired specification, then you should never just buy a random domain just for the sake of having another domain in your portfolio.

    These bids are possibly the result of an automated bidding bot of one of the more equipped domainers out there who didn't see this coming. Doesn't make much sense with the early bids though .. probably just poorly programmed. Or maybe it is a bunch of live users whose English isn't very strong who don't understand that GoDaddy is just arbitrarily making up a number based on completely unknown metrics.

    On the topic of the actual valuations .. what they value some of these domains are extremely disconcerting to downright misleading. I personally usually do not pay attention to anybody's evaluation but my own (particularly automated ones) .. but I think many of these valuations are a little too misleading to simply hide behind GoDaddy's "disclaimer".

    At the end of the day they are actually good for some domainers who ignore valuations as it focuses some of the attention and investment capital on a bunch of garbage domains that I would never touch with a 1000 foot pole! ;)
     

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