What has been your TRUE ROI for 2007?

[jacal1]

:hi:

I'm curious, but please balance ALL the money you've put in to domaining as a whole, including all reg fees for all your names, etc., with ALL the money you've taken out from sales, parking, etc. (Not "each domain I've sold has been 500% Return on the $6 reg fee")

Also, note how long you've been doing this if you want.

I still think this is an easy way to make a good return, but its also easy to mislead ourselves based on 3 or 4 huge sales. (After my first low-xxx sale, I know I excitedly regged mid-xxx worth of new names that I did or will end up letting expire )

For me, I am at 200% ROI now, and because I'm not registering many more I'm hoping to be at 250% or 300% by the end of the year.

I'm guessing I'm middle of the road - I'm still relatively new and I'm guessing the "elders" here are way beyond that ROI.

Again, ALL the $$$$ in, versus all the $$$$$ out.

 

[-REECE-]

I'm about -50% ROI this year mainly because I chose to put a large investment in .mobi which obviously receive little parked income and I haven't been primarily interested in selling them (only sold 2 names ever and just recently). Only dropping about 2% of this years handregs, so I don't think I actually lost money, merely not satisfied with the offers I've been given so far (despite many being in excess of my costs).

Been doing this for 8 years

 

[jacal1]

That's interesting Reece - I'm wondering whether some of you true veterans will actually have a lower ROI because you've truly learned how to save your good ones for a super ROI down the road.

Or because you're more willing/expert at taking risks with reinvestment?

 

[tristanperry]

I've had a positive ROI thus far... not too sure what value though.

I've mostly been self-sufficient, by buying domains and reselling them at profit; hence I haven't had to put in too much money.

However despite this, I've probably put in around $400, and a further $500+ from web design stuff.

And I've got a portfolio worth $2,500+, so the ROI is positive, although I'm guessing with most of these figures so I can't given an exact ROI

 

[-REECE-]

That's interesting Reece - I'm wondering whether some of you true veterans will actually have a lower ROI because you've truly learned how to save your good ones for a super ROI down the road.

Or because you're more willing/expert at taking risks with reinvestment?

Yes, I have no doubt you'll find many of us long time domainers or new domainers with large budgets have smaller profits. It might merely be a consequence of investing more money.. To make a 300%+ return on what I invested this year would require making well into mid xx,xxx. Harder to flip expensive names for huge profits as well (most people spending mid x,xxx+ on names have a fairly good idea what they're worth) and there are only so many bargains to be found.

I prefer to park or hold the names outright (yeah, sometimes too lazy to even park them lol), and have only sold 2 names within the last week, ever (an attempt to test the .mobi market). Because I'm able to absorb the renewal costs, I prefer to hunt for the "big fish" rather than flip them for small profits. Nametrader's poker.in sale ($60,000) is a very good example of this imo -- having a price in mind, knowing it will be worth that price down the road, and not accepting anything less than what you know it to be worth.

 

[lzy]

Not a very good year... -ROI :lol:

Spending a good sum of money developing some of my names.

 

[DotWeekly]

ROI Calculator for those who do not know how to get your ROI Number.

Profit/Investment=ROI

So if you purchase a domain name for $7.00 usd and sell the domain name for $750 usd. Fees of selling, let's say 20% which is $150 usd. $750 - 150 = $650 Profit.

$650/$7.00= 92.857% ROI

 

[irishmat]

$650/$7.00= 92.857% ROI

is that not 9285.7% ROI

 

[AzN]

is that not 9285.7% ROI

yeah lol it is.

 

[irishmat]

yeah lol it is.

good to see my mathematics degree wasnt wasted lol

 

[jacal1]

ROI Calculator for those who do not know how to get your ROI Number.

Profit/Investment=ROI

So if you purchase a domain name for $7.00 usd and sell the domain name for $750 usd. Fees of selling, let's say 20% which is $150 usd. $750 - 150 = $650 Profit.

$650/$7.00= 92.857% ROI

Yofie, that's one way to look at it, and helpful on its own...but not what I was after in this thread - see original post.

I'm thinking of ROI in a more practical and conservative way. If you buy 100,000 domains for $10 each and sell one for $1,000 your ROI is one-tenth of 1% IMO, not 10,000% IMO, but that's where we make a mistake and think we're doing well when we're not.

 

[ssamriga]

well what's my ROI if I started domaining this August, have spent so far about 250$ and haven't sold a single domain yet? :D

EDIT: oh I have made almost 5$ on parking

 

[DotWeekly]

is that not 9285.7% ROI

My bad, forgot to move the decimal point over 2 spots. I thought it looked funny!

 

[sashas]

Hmm..
I started domaining on the 22nd of June.
3 Months later, I've had an ROI of about 150%
Not much, but then over these 3 months, I've picked up names that I know will sell for a decent sum and push my ROI to over 500%

Frankly, in the first year of domaining, I actually don't hope to achieve a positive ROI. I'm right now only looking to build up my portfolio (which will take atleast an year to reach a respectable size and standard). I've had only one end user sale so far, but with time, as my portfolio increases, it should go up.

So far, I'm satisfied with my investment. I've earned back whatever I spent and made a profit of 50%. I do hope to build a decent income from domaining over the next 4 years.

Oh and I also made about 10% of my total investment back in domain parking, but I haven't included that in my ROI because I'm still to get paid for it.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Hmm..
I started domaining on the 22nd of June.
3 Months later, I've had an ROI of about 150%
Not much, but then over these 3 months, I've picked up names that I know will sell for a decent sum and push my ROI to over 500%

Frankly, in the first year of domaining, I actually don't hope to achieve a positive ROI. I'm right now only looking to build up my portfolio (which will take atleast an year to reach a respectable size and standard). I've had only one end user sale so far, but with time, as my portfolio increases, it should go up.

So far, I'm satisfied with my investment. I've earned back whatever I spent and made a profit of 50%. I do hope to build a decent income from domaining over the next 4 years.

Oh and I also made about 10% of my total investment back in domain parking, but I haven't included that in my ROI because I'm still to get paid for it.

This is exactly how I view it. I would like to sell a few names right now, but it's not absolutely essential. In fact, most of my names will only increase in value in the next few years.

 

[Earthian]

jacal - the difference in your example lies on for what the ROI is for ...

the ROI for the specific domain is 9,900% ... profit is 99X the initial investment ... $1000 revenue - $10 cost = $990 (profit)

while the current ROI for the whole investment is -99% ... $1000 revenue - $1,000,000 costs = -$999,000 (loss) ... but ... there is a stock of 99,999 domains until the end of their registration year ...

if there are no more domain sales until they expire after a year , the ROI for the whole investment would then be -99%







ssamriga - currently you have -98% ROI ... your profit/loss is $5 - $250 = -$245 (loss) ... therefore your ROI = -$245/$250 = -98/100 = -98% ... but ... you have a stock of X number of domains that are still yours until they expire ...

eg. if you sell 1 domain at $500 ... then your ROI will go straight to 102% ... $505 - $250 = $255 profit ... $255/$250 = 102/100 = 102% ROI







sashas - your revenue is at 150% of expenditure/cost/investment not you ROI ... your ROI is 50% ... since you said that you made back your investment and a 50% profit ... but ... again (as above) , you still have a stock of X domains until their expiration date ...

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[jacal1]

Thoughtful post Godian. I guess its nearly impossible to figure true ROI on domaining in a way that is 100% accurate. Unlike other things like stocks or real estate, there is no real liquidation value of your inventory. You can't just turn around all of a sudden and sell them all, and even if you could, the value is very hard to calculate.

I've spent xxxx this year total. I've returned 2 x xxxx total. But yes, I have a huge inventory left that's worth something, probably/hopefully a lot. But the absolute safest thing for me to do might be to ignore that(?)

(All I know is that my wife says I better make back in hard cash whatever I put in in hard cash!! She does not care that I still own babywetsuits.com or whatever :hehe: )

 

[loscocco]

All i know is i am definitely way ahead in the +ROI and growing hope to keep it that way.

 

[godolphin]

Domaining ROI: 249%
Parking income is more than enough to cover renewal expenses of current portfolio.

 

[dnk]

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