discuss What gTLD failed you? For example, you stocked up for nothing.

[INFJ]

What gTLD failed you? For example, you stocked up for nothing.

I'll start. I jumped on the .vip bandwagon when it first dropped. I remember picking up "lounge.vip" which was appraised for several thousand by several members. Of course, stupid me, I hung onto it....'til the end.....the very end....as in $5 end. FML.

Your turn!

 

[Brands.International]

Or some people are wise enough to see marketing for what it is. When these came out, it was wait 4 or 5 years. We're in year 6, now it's wait 2 decades, 20 years. Again, overall reg numbers leveling off, overall reported sales, lower than previous 2 years. When somebody says they're rising, what exactly is that referring to? Stuff like:



Few things. First, inquiries are not sales. Nobody knows if that is a true statement or not. Those inquires could be $20 inquiries for all we know.

A lot of what is being posted is not based on facts or the current stats/information at hand. It's hopefully 10 or 20 years from now, things will take off. But there is nothing in the overall stats even hinting at that.

while I was typing this out @BaileyUK posting about the same thing.

To sum it up: people who are heavily invested in new gTLDs with hundreds of them, like me, @New.Life @HotKey or @Jurgen Wolf are beying optimistic and pretty satisfied with their performance. People like @New.Life were kind enough recently to report even some higher sales, while others are also showing you that all is ok.

People who own 0 new gTLDs like @JB Lions or @BaileyUK are very pessimistic about new gTLDs, referencing to their rich experiences from around year 2000 with .net, or from 2007 with .mobi, and trying to save us, new gTLD domain investors, from a certain DOOM!

But thank you guys, we are doing fine - and you will see larger and larger new gTLD sales reported by individual domain investors (so not only registries) as time will go

 

[ThatNameGuy]

To sum it up: people who are heavily invested in new gTLDs with hundreds of them, like me, @New.Life @HotKey or @Jurgen Wolf are beying optimistic and pretty satisfied with their performance. People like @New.Life were kind enough recently to report even some higher sales, while others are also showing you that all is ok.

People who own 0 new gTLDs like @JB Lions or @BaileyUK are very pessimistic about new gTLDs, referencing to their rich experiences from around year 2000 with .net, or from 2007 with .mobi, and trying to save us, new gTLD domain investors, from a certain DOOM!

But thank you guys, we are doing fine - and you will see larger and larger new gTLD sales reported by individual domain investors (so not only registries) as time will go

I know you're doing OK Marek and I applaud for you work with the new gTLD's. While I migrated back to the .com arena over the last twelve months, I'm still a strong believer in many of the new extensions. While schools still out, it appears I may have just started a relationship with a personal broker who I will be paying a 30% commission to sell my domains. While she's sort of new to this industry, she has extensive experience in both business and sales, and a killer attitude...sort of like I own the domain Killer.homes

I'll keep you posted Marek...now I need to FIRE Go Daddy/Afternic

 

[Joe N]

I think it's great that you guys are doing so well, @lolwarrior, but you can't blame folks for being skeptical. Personally, I have yet to encounter a new gTLD investor who was willing to share with us the actual data of their success.

How many names do they own?
How much have they invested?
How much are annual renewals?
How much has been made in total sales?

Meanwhile there are plenty of investors in .com, .org, and various ccTLDs who have been more than happy to share this kind of info.

Are you required to be open about your investment position? Of course not. But you really need to stop taking offense when your claims come up against criticism and skepticism. The point of this forum is to inform, debate and share data. If you're not willing to share real data, then you'd better believe people are going to debate the quality of the information you're providing.

 

[JayT]

@Joe Nichols Interesting how you claim .com, org etc are SO LIBERAL in their reporting. Meanwhile, @Josh R (a PRO) said 'MANY' .com sales don't go reported...so which is it?

 

[Joe N]

@Joe Nichols Interesting how you claim .com, org etc are SO LIBERAL in their reporting. Meanwhile, @Josh R (a PRO) said 'MANY' .com sales don't go reported...so which is it?

Actually if you read my post again, I said that there are investors who are willing to share the details of their purchases and sales. @Doron Vermaat is a great example.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

What gTLD failed you? For example, you stocked up for nothing.

I'll start. I jumped on the .vip bandwagon when it first dropped. I remember picking up "lounge.vip" which was appraised for several thousand by several members. Of course, stupid me, I hung onto it....'til the end.....the very end....as in $5 end. FML.

Your turn!

Tin...you'll find this pretty funny, but I just hand registered; Attitude.zone, mostly because it cost just $7.99, it renews at just $21.99, it's valued at GD for $1,492, the keyword "Attitude" is valued at $1,880, it's a coolname, Marek, aka lolWarrior will appreciate the fact that i purchased my first gTLD in months, and most important, it will piss off over half the members of NP who could all use an attitude adjustment

Thanks for the thread!

 

[JayT]

@Joe Nichols to quote "6/7 fig sales EVERYDAY". If .com is so liquid, and you don't know...why don't you go ask those holders their exact holdings and finances too?

Seems to have been happening for a long time, nTLD hasn't slowed .com sales according to what I see.

 

[JB Lions]

To sum it up: people who are heavily invested in new gTLDs with hundreds of them, like me, @New.Life @HotKey or @Jurgen Wolf are beying optimistic and pretty satisfied with their performance. People like @New.Life were kind enough recently to report even some higher sales, while others are also showing you that all is ok.

People who own 0 new gTLDs like @JB Lions or @BaileyUK are very pessimistic about new gTLDs, referencing to their rich experiences from around year 2000 with .net, or from 2007 with .mobi, and trying to save us, new gTLD domain investors, from a certain DOOM!

But thank you guys, we are doing fine - and you will see larger and larger new gTLD sales reported by individual domain investors (so not only registries) as time will go

It's more your dishonest posting. Somebody said they're on the rise, your reply "100% words of wisdom imo. Although I doubt some people here will ever understand it."

I pointed out they're not on the rise in term of reg numbers and sales, what people are usually talking about when saying stuff like that. So you have those 2 stats. I pointed out in another thread only about 2% of new startups picking out new gtlds. I picked 2 of the hottest keywords cannabis and crypto and pointed out of the last 200 reported sales, only 1 was a new gtld. I linked to the forum that shows daily sales, it's usually 0 new gtlds. So tell me the rise again?

I understand you being 100% invested in these, holding on to this charade but you make it seem like new gtlds are some secret thing, they're just extensions.

You pointed out others have some sales, people have pointed to you, of course, with 26 million regs, there are going to be some sales. You haven't posted 1. Not even just a name. I posted a bunch just a few days ago.

You make it seem like what you call .commers don't understand, yet who do you think was helping you decide what names to renew? You have an appraisal thread, sometimes appraising at 4 and 5 figures that people can hand reg in .com and can't figure out which of your own names to renew. You started that thread because renewals were starting to get at you, something else you like to pretend you've got handled.

 

[Joe N]

@Joe Nichols to quote "6/7 fig sales EVERYDAY". If .com is so liquid, and you don't know...why don't you go ask those holders their exact holdings and finances too?

Seems to have been happening for a long time, nTLD hasn't slowed .com sales according to what I see.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here... but I think you're quoting another member.

I didn't say anything about 6/7 figure sales everyday. I just said it's nice that some domainers are willing to share their own sales data to help us all learn, and I wish there was a ngTLD investor brave enough to do the same.

 

[JayT]

@Joe Nichols well 'nice' is one thing, not a reason to stepping up to your "against criticism and skepticisms"...I'm really serious about wanting to know about all these daily 6 fig sales now though.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I do tens or sometimes even hundreds WHOIS checks daily... This is my primary domain tool for years.
And I have seen tons of small, mid and even large companies on nTLDs, mostly European...
It means only 2 things: they were regged at regfee, because most domainers don't want to make money with nTLDs... OR they were sold.

 

[JayT]

@Joe Nichols isn't even trying to talk about HOW they failed us. He is going on, off topic, about us 'PROVING' sales here. DERAIL.

 

[JayT]

BTW, WHERE ARE all the people that 'stocked up' and got screwed, why aren't they posting? Just a couple, maybe?

 

[artstar]

when domains like happylookdotcom sell for $40k, u know .coms r the only way to go.

im to logical and id never even come up with happylook as a domain contender.
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ive come to the conclusion i suck at domaining and its all about illogic and luck mixed with loads of $ to start and reg anything and hope 4 the best. also it helps to be obsessively naive imo

most of these guys on np that sell alot of domains u see own alot and for years they put out huge $ to rereg. little guys are out of the loop.

simply its a game of numbers and if u dont have the quantity of domains the chances are making decent profit on going is like buying a lotto ticket ad hoping to win the jackpot. its like getting hit by lightning.

sounds negative? no its reality!

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

How much are annual renewals?

I don't renew them in ~95% of cases.
It has no sense, because dropcatch competition is almost 0.
Drop and then catch/reg again for promofee if needed.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Only in .life I periodically see some Chinese catchers...
So if you are not able to use API - renew/transfer them.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

.one renewal is ~$7.5
Significantly below legacy gTLDs in other words.

 

[JayT]

@Josh R Have we stopped throwing around facts here?

Hi Bob - I love the stats but the fact of the matter is that there are 6 figure .com sales that are unreported EVERY single day.

Let me quote YOU again, in bold (italics my emphasis),

"I love the stats", in an endearing yet arrogant tone, aimed to warm the reader for the next lines of deception..."the fact"..."6 figure .com sales EVERY single day"

I'd just like some clarity, how far are YOU willing to PROVE up these 'facts'?

I'll contemplate who is selling all these domains while we all think about how we liked being pressured into divulging nTLD sale data on a thread that isn't even meant for discussing sales in the first place.

Thanks!

 

[Joe N]

@Joe Nichols well 'nice' is one thing, not a reason to stepping up to your "against criticism and skepticisms"...I'm really serious about wanting to know about all these daily 6 fig sales now though.

It's not criticism, @JayT. I was just telling another member that he shouldn't be surprised that folks here are skeptical of the wisdom of investing in ngTLDs.

 

[artstar]

rereg is for deep pockets and loads of time and cash to sit on them. normal people ie nickel and dime domainers r simply throwing good money after bad reregging year after year/ if it dont get views in the first year or offers its crap plain and simple