What Are You Doing to Protect Yourself From NSA?

[freeflow]

I’m opening up the thread for readers to discuss what they have done or plan to do in the wake of the revelations about the extent of NSA surveillance. Those of you who were clued in to how bad it is and have taken appropriate precautionary measures might give the rest of us some pointers. For instance, one buddy in the IT business stopped having anything to do with Google a while back.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/06/what-are-you-doing-to-protect-yourself-from-nsa-safedata.html

 

[enlytend]

Yeah, when they fall off the road and burst into flames at least you're sure it's not because of the NSA. It's probably because of fixed axles, drum brakes and carburettor lines spraying fuel all over the engine bay.

All wheel drive, stability systems, power brakes, airbags - definitely safety factors. Bluetooth and Wifi? Maybe not so much.

Computerized systems gone awry, like cars that accellerate by themselves (Toyota recall) or start on their own (Subaru remote starter glitch), or other technology issues that pop up as parts hit the MTBF - just trading one set of problems for another.

 

[briguy]

Verizon and AT&T aren't free!

Speaking of Verizon
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/nsa-surveillance-supreme-court-asked-halt-phone-spying-004944371.html
NSA surveillance: Supreme Court is asked to halt phone spying on Americans

A nonprofit privacy group asked the US Supreme Court on Monday to invalidate a secret court order that authorized the US government to collect and retain all telephone metadata from every Verizon business customer in the United States.

Maybe "tinfoil, cars before computer age and no Verizon"

 

[verbster]

You ever notice how all other news takes a backseat to leaked info like this? Some people might even think it was planned. Maybe even to divert attention from . . . well, who knows? It certainly doesn't take much to change channels with a remote control.

 

[Rich]

I'm building a tin-foil tophat that will be mass produced and sold to skeptics.

 

[DU]

I'm building a tin-foil tophat that will be mass produced and sold to skeptics.

I'm sure they will doubt or question whether it works.

 

[Kenny]

So here it is kiddies, what "they" are feeding the mainstream.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...-hide-nsa-your-guide-nearly-impossible/66942/
The Atlantic Wire-

So, You Want to Hide from the NSA? Your Guide to the Nearly Impossible

Complaining about the government is a key part of being American, the first amendment to the Constitution. But it seems like a bit of a trickier proposition these days, with the government listening to everything you say online. In the interest of preserving your freedoms and bolstering our fair nation, here is the full articulation of the deeply paranoid and complex life you must live in order to assure that the government leaves you alone.

Before we begin, we'll note that technically the NSA isn't allowed to look at the stuff you do online. Thanks to the Patriot Act, it can (and does) store the metadata on phone calls Americans make every day—who was called, how long the call lasted, maybe some location data. The NSA also pulls in online content, but can't do so legally on targets in the United States. This is part of the PRISM program you may have heard about, in which the NSA can access data from an array of companies in near-real-time. In practice, the NSA's procedures are sufficiently lax that it does collect information (content) from Americans, of course. And until 2011, it collected metadata on emails, including subject lines and to- and from-addresses.

That is the worst case scenario. Yes, the NSA is definitely slurping up scads of information about your phone calls. It probably isn't storing your Facebook chats, emails, and Skype calls. Our goal with this guide is to detail exactly what you need to do to assure that it can't, even if it wants to. As you will see, it is a cumbersome process.

For assistance in fleshing out this guide, we spoke with Micah Lee, a staff technologist with the Electronic Frontier Foundation who has also written a guide to some of the tools mentioned below.

First, the really bad news.

The world learned about PRISM thanks to a series of slides leaked by Edward Snowden. Among those slides was this one.

On this slide, you can see the companies that participate in the program but also the data they offer the NSA, if the agency asks. Microsoft, Google, Yahoo (complete with trademark exclamation point), Facebook, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple. All of the logos smushed into the header of the slide. And all of the companies to be avoided if you don't want any chance that the NSA can surveil what you're doing.

Again: We are not saying that you should not use Facebook. What we are saying is that if you are desperate to prevent the NSA from knowing what you're doing, you shouldn't use Facebook. And there's nothing you can do to make using Facebook better—no encryption, no anything can make Facebook safe from the NSA. (We'll discuss this more a little later on.)

But it gets worse. These are the companies known to be participating in PRISM as of last October (when Apple was added). Since then, others may have been added; others may be added in the future. The truly paranoid, then, will have second thoughts about nearly any major Internet company.

And then it gets worse still, as Lee pointed out. "Any company that's inside of U.S. jurisdiction," he said, "can get government requests for data. Even if they're not listed in the PRISM slides, that doesn't mean the government isn't getting data from them." If the NSA wants your data, in other words, it can probably get it. It just might not be in real-time. (We'll get back to this, too.)

Before we continue, we should flesh out an important distinction. When you think of an email, what you generally think of is the content of the email, the message. In order for that message to get to you, though, the email also needs to contain metadata, a term loosely-and-not-entirely-accurately used to refer to information about the email message itself. For example: who it is addressed to, who it came from, what its subject is. (We have gone deeper into this before.)

Comtinue... for rest of article...worth the read.

So basically...Nothing works...

This is the way it is, there is nothing you can do about it, we dont care if it's legal or not, you are all f'd.
Thank you and have a nice day. :wave:

Oh, and btw... "they" are "them" 8-X


Peace,
Cy

 

[GiftedDomains]

The only way for real protection is totally disconnect and live in a jungle.
No internet, no mobile phones.
You can't fight them with their own tools. They are years ahead.
There is only one type of privacy left and thats offline privacy.

 

[Kenny]

Take that.

Peace,
Cy

 

[freeflow]

This is a great resource if you realy want know what is happening behind the sences. No mainstream BS!

TechTV's Leo Laporte and I (Steve Gibson) take 30 to 90 minutes near the end of each week to discuss important issues of personal computer security. Sometimes we'll discuss something that just happened. Sometimes we'll talk about long-standing problems, concerns, or solutions. Either way, every week we endeavor to produce something interesting and important for every personal computer user.

Search for NSA on the website.
https://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm


Dutch Search Engine

Startpage Protects Your Privacy!

Startpage, and its sister search engine Ixquick, are the only third-party certified search engines in the world that do not record your IP address or track your searches.
Your privacy is under attack!

Every time you use a regular search engine, your search data is recorded. Major search engines capture your IP address and use tracking cookies to make a record of your search terms, the time of your visit, and the links you choose - then they store that information in a giant database.

Those searches reveal a shocking amount of personal information about you, such as your interests, family circumstances, political leanings, medical conditions, and more. This information is modern-day gold for marketers, government officials, black-hat hackers and criminals - all of whom would love to get their hands on your private search data.

https://startpage.com/

 

[briguy]

Seen this thought of this thread..

 

[verbster]

The (beta) genie is out of the bottle . . . The only protection anyone has is that there is so much bullshit going on in the world and so many layers to sift through that even the world's fastest computer and an army of analysts can't sort through and follow up on it all fast enough. So, there are focused monitoring strategies on specific people, words and phrases cross-indexed with specific search patterns like location, frequency, duration, identifiers and so forth. If the big eye ever focuses on you, even double layers of tin foil won't help.

 

[Domainace]

I agree with verbster (should I be worried?).

There's nothing you can do to protect your info - privacy died in the 20th century.
We can't stop the government from collecting info, but we can try to limit their powers as to what they can do with it - by making a much smaller and less intrusive government. Not gonna happen in my lifetime, though.

 

[Theo Goodman]

there is nothing you can do, so just give them everything.

 

[Eric Lyon]

Alex Jones dubs the NSA and Obama tyrants and insider-traders - Jan 2014

Gotta love all the build up over illegal surveillance and tyranny accusations surrounding the NSA and Obama administration. What are your thoughts about the NSA? have they gone way to far? Are they doing the U.S. a good deed in keeping people safe? Or are they as Alex says, collecting data for insider trading to monopolize the world?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9TntxMM_k[/youtube]

 

[verbster]

"You can count on Alex Jones!" An election slogan I think he should use in 2016, along with, "I love making stuff up."

 

[Theo Goodman]

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https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page

no its not secure, but its cool.

 

[briguy]

Interesting new smartphone coming out

"Anti-NSA Blackphone 'commendable,' but will consumers buy it?
New encrypted smartphone unveiled at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/a...mmendable-but-will-consumers-buy-it-1.2544562