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I’m opening up the thread for readers to discuss what they have done or plan to do in the wake of the revelations about the extent of NSA surveillance. Those of you who were clued in to how bad it is and have taken appropriate precautionary measures might give the rest of us some pointers. For instance, one buddy in the IT business stopped having anything to do with Google a while back.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/06/what-are-you-doing-to-protect-yourself-from-nsa-safedata.html
 
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I just wrapped myself in bubble wrap.
 
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Right. Like I'd post that sh!t in an open forum. :laugh:

Peace,
Cy
 
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No duct tape?

And plenty of tin foil.

Peace,
Cy

Ps... seriously, thanks for the link freeflow.
Some interesting comments there.
 
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I've changed my username to Cyberian on all other forums.

I watch Burn Notice and pay attention to all the narrative to make sure if I ever get stuck I can get out of it. This has made watching MacGuyver less relevant so I spend that time brushing up on my on fake Russian accent.

Finally. I did donate to the NSA and have a "I Support the NSA" sticker on my car. This works just like the Highway Patrol donations that you can user when you get pulled over... "Hi Office, did you see my sticker? You do fine work!"

But seriously? I use the Tor browser when searching for anything that has the word NSA in it.

Funny that NSA stands for "No Strings Attached"
 
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There are many things you should be doing in order thwart government surveillance.

For example, do not use free E-mail services, especially large providers like gmail.
Instead, host your own E-mail with dedicated domain names.
I mean, we are domainers. We should be using our domain names and lead by example ;)

I have always found it strange when domainers contact end users from free gmail accounts in order to convince them they should buy a domain name. But they are not taking their own medicine ? :cy:
 
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Instead, host your own E-mail with dedicated domain names.
I mean, we are domainers. We should be using our domain names and lead by example ;)

Exactly. It's not like anyone here doesn't have a spare domain they could use :)! And use encrypted POP or IMAP to download your mail.

Tor browser's good. If you don't want to make that much of a committment, HTTPS Anywhere extension establishes encrypted communications with web sites which support the protocol.

Just say "no" to cloud services ... or be selective what goes there.

Pick up a roll of tin foil and visit the EFF's Surveillance Self Defense site - https://ssd.eff.org/
If you don't want to read all that, this is a good list: http://prism-break.org/

If anyone has any information to leak, here's how to go about that ...
http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/0...roats-this-is-how-to-leak-to-the-press-today/
 
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If you can't beat them, then join them

Hahahaha :p
 
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I've always wondered what if something like Tor is actually government or NSA? Or the private browser windows, once you pop one of those open, that just raises all kinds of flags. That's what I would do if I was them. Set something up where people think they're being safe but just an easy trap.

Tor:

"Originally sponsored by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory"

"It has a diverse base of financial support; the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation are major contributors. As of 2012, 80% of the Tor Project's $2M annual budget comes from the United States government, with the Swedish government and other organizations providing the rest, including NGOs and thousands of individual sponsors."

I've heard about it before, about some columnist seeing if he go below radar, Tor was one of the things he used. Tried it before as well.

"Anonymizing systems such as Tor are at times used for matters that are, or may be, illegal in some countries, e.g. Tor may be used to gain access to censored information, to organize political activities, or to circumvent laws against criticism of heads of state. Tor can also be used for anonymous defamation, unauthorized leaks of sensitive information, and copyright infringement, the distribution of illegal sexual content, the selling of controlled substances, money laundering, credit card fraud and identity theft; the black market which utilizes the Tor infrastructure operates, at least in part, in conjunction with Bitcoin, and Tor itself has been used by criminal enterprises, hacktivism groups, and law enforcement agencies at cross purposes, sometimes simultaneously."

So why in the world would the U.S. government be paying for 80% of it.
 
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^^^ They gotcha mow, bro. ^^^



*hides inside the tinfoil and doesnt sign his post
 
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I suspect the continued gov't funding is because they use it for undercover operations and law enforcement purposes Tor is the network of choice for many people and groups that need to remain anonymous - for whatever reason, good or bad. Anyone can run a relay, and it's open source, so would be pretty hard to write a back door into the software without someone finding it.

Tor CAN be broken by someone who knows both endpoints (correlation attack). Or by messing with the data packets at the start (latency or tagging) and looking to see where that fingerprint turns up.

However if they had full control over it, first thing they'd do would be to wipe out the child p*** rings.
 
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However if they had full control over it, first thing they'd do would be to wipe out the child p*** rings.

I doubt it. There's no real money in that.
 
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Yeah I know - but one can always hope ...

They would save in personnel - major, MAJOR burnout in agents working those cases. Or so I've heard...

It could be a big career/political boost for someone ...
 
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I am safe from NSA, FBI, etal...

Why?
I am married to a DID, her entire family are DIDs.
(DID = Damn Iowa Democrat)

For no one would believe a DID would marry a republican!

Hahahahahha....
 
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Yeah I know - but one can always hope..

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So why in the world would the U.S. government be paying for 80% of it.

Because there's more you can have others do FOR YOU in secret than will generally be done AGAINST YOU and what is done is just collateral damage.

That and the US Govt has as much tact as a rhino chasing a bull in a china shop.j
 
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It's a trapppppp. It's only 2 million, if they pay 80%, that's 1.6 million, will just $400,000 left over. They can pay for it all, keep it from the public and just use it for themselves.

My sources have informed me if you've ever used it, by the end of the year, you'll be in one of those Obama camps. I only used it once for like a week, so I don't know. As long as the camp has AC, internet connection and pizza, I'll be ok.

No duct tape?

Usually but didn't have any, used Gorilla Glue Adhesive. Have cut-outs to breathe and for the hands and some other places. It's fun. I can go to the roof of my house, jump off and then bounce around in the street.
 
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They do have different rules about data retention if the data is encrypted or not. If it's encrypted they can keep it as long as they like.

Usually but didn't have any, used Gorilla Glue Adhesive. Have cut-outs to breathe and for the hands and some other places. It's fun. I can go to the roof of my house, jump off and then bounce around in the street.

Pictures? :) :)
 
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They do have different rules about data retention if the data is encrypted or not. If it's encrypted they can keep it as long as they like.

As opposed to unencrypted which they can keep as long as they like (there are no rules remember
.. I mean now we can bug the embassy fax machine that our friends use)
 
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The PRISM "rules" state that data collected "inadvertantly" about American citizens can "only" be retained for 5 years ... but if it's "enciphered" or believed to have "secret meaning" they can keep it as long as they want.

This is all assuming anyone's paying attention to the "rules" ... and how they interpret "secret meaning."
 
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The PRISM "rules" state that data collected "inadvertantly" about American citizens can "only" be retained for 5 years ... but if it's "enciphered" or believed to have "secret meaning" they can keep it as long as they want.

This is all assuming anyone's paying attention to the "rules" ... and how they interpret "secret meaning."

How do you inadvertently collect data? :)

Where are all the leaked documents being collated? Do you know?
 
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My day-to-day life is so boring that NSA (No Such Agency, ha ha) listeners are likely to go into a coma...

However, we do visit off-the-beaten track foreign countries, many of them formerly communist and socialist.

But while there, we mostly sit in outdoor cafes with friends, drinking coffee or rakija, or buying trinkets for the kids and grandkids.

I did drag back a 15-pound rock (not valuable, just a cool rock covered in mica) this last time, so that might have caused TSA some pause...

Fortunately, Turkish Air allows TWO free bags for each passenger on international flights, so no excess baggage fees, much to my better half's great joy.

I figure if someone really wants to listen, there isn't much I can do about it. I just try to live a normal life and trust that if someone is listening in, there will be nothing exciting for their entertainment value.

:)

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I figure if someone really wants to listen, there isn't much I can do about it.
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The power of a democracy supposedly lies in the ability of the people to have some say in how a country functions (or doesn't). A key part of being able to participate and make change must be to have knowledge of what is currently happening, you can't change the unknown.

I don't believe in the political process at all but I'm surprised, for some reason, that you don't either.
 
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The power of a democracy supposedly lies in the ability of the people to have some say in how a country functions (or doesn't). A key part of being able to participate and make change must be to have knowledge of what is currently happening, you can't change the unknown.

I don't believe in the political process at all but I'm surprised, for some reason, that you don't either.

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The political process is a sham and an illusion.

It doesn't seem to matter Republican, Green Party, Democrat--once someone acquires power, he/she hangs onto it and gives perks to him/herself, family, and friends.

The rest of us can go to hell.

The only people benefiting from the "political process" are the wealthy who can afford to "buy" the perks via lobbying and other questionable tactics.

I'm afraid it will be ever thus.

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