.tv Wasting Money....

[poiuytrewq]

Hi there all you Dot Tv-ers...

I've been hanging around this wonderful forum for a couple of months now and recently I've noticed a proliferation of CNR (crap-name-regging!). I think there are people regging unsellable names (alot of the times in large numbers) and I can't understand what they are trying to achieve. Perhaps they are rich and $25 a time is not a problem. Perhaps I have the problem and don't understand! But I don't see wasting money as a good thing.

I suppose this is an age-old domainers problem but I find it frustrating and I genuinely get concerned for people wasting money! I want to shout from the rooftops STOP!!!!!!!!!!

Surely, logic would dictate that maybe it's sensible to buy a few domains, see if they sell, see if you have the knack, then buy some more? The approach should be one you would use if you were buying properties. Isn't that sensible?

But I'm seeing people buy tens/hundreds and hoping one will sell. Well, it better be a very good sale because you're already hundreds/thousands down to start with in reg fees! It makes absolutely no sense. And anyway, there aren't many decent TVs left so they would be better forgetting about regging fruityhomesrealtorkittens.tv and looking towards the aftermarket. THIS is the place to be. Forget about normal regging, there are some great names available in the Aftermarket still but sellers are becoming more aware of the potetntial of .TV and it's becoming harder to get a bargain. But yeah, if you look you can still pick up that awesome generic name for $xxx!

Point of my rant: Surely it is better to have one awesome name which cost $xxx and will increase in value than 50 crap ones which cost $x,xxx and is just gonna gather virtual dust. Dot TV is still a largely unproven market in its infancy.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. I feel better now.

Happy domaining everyone!

 

[htmlindex]

Hi there all you Dot Tv-ers...

I've been hanging around this wonderful forum for a couple of months now and recently I've noticed a proliferation of CNR (crap-name-regging!). I think there are people regging unsellable names (alot of the times in large numbers) and I can't understand what they are trying to achieve. Perhaps they are rich and $25 a time is not a problem.

This happens with any extention out there, not just .tv. I recently took a trip back to the .mobi forum as I haven't been there in ages & the same thing is happening there.

I still think you can hand reg decent names but you have to be very, very picky in what you get. Or you can look at the aftermarket as you mentioned to pick up some good names there.

 

[mckennaronnie]

I agree with you 100% Grooves, in the last few Months a lot of the regs i have seen in the Appraisal section have been completely awful and they are being bought up in groups of 10 or 100 by the same people.

Just after the Godaddy $9.99 landrush there was about 10 new Appraisal threads everyday and out of the domains i seen there i would estimate 95%+ are worth $0.

I would definetley suggest buying one good .tv in the aftermarket rather than reg 100 rubbish hand regs but as you said its getting much harder in the aftermarket as most of the .tv's are now owned by those who know the value of .tv's and wont let them go cheap. I have placed bids on about 100 .tv's on Sedo in the last few months at around low $x,xxx but have not even got near to coming to a agreement as all the sellers are expecting $xx,xxx - $xxx,xxx now since a few good .tv's Sales got the whole market thinking they have world class domains.
It has got to the stage that i am giving up even buying in the aftermarket as its so hard to find a reasonable seller at the $x,xxx range now.

I really should be psdt the buying stage and fully onto developing after getting Scotland.tv but i cant stop myself looking for a bargain.

Cheers,

Ronnie

 

[TheBulldog]

Well it isn't me because I haven't bought anything in quite awhile.

And yes, we are into the crap-a-thon names now. And I say that is a GREAT thing.

It means that although there is still plenty of great stuff left, most of the single word tv domains of value are bought, a good share of the two worders are gone, and if people are even touching three worders or number character combos......well that means that even the basic crap will be gone soon and people will be forced into the aftermarket.

So I say "GO CRAP REGGING!!!!" because that means more people are joining the tv moonies, and more and more they will be looking to the people with great names for possible purchases.

 

[equity78]

Well Ronnie I wrote that 2 years ago when the forum first started, quality over quantity 1 great name over 100 so so let alone bad domains. People don't care and I don't agree with you bulldog people will stay in the crap thinking its not crap and they are not going to spend for the better domains. End Users may pay up but I do not see other Domainers paying up. Even some end users do not want to pay up Lance had a guy in Belgium tell him to go F himself at $5000 for the exact name of the guys new production company a ONE WORD GENERIC he replied back G F Y you are ludicrous to ask $5000

I get clowns with $250 offers on TEA.tv or wet.tv I wonder are they high? mentally ill? the typical forum troll ? either way I know they can G F THEMSELVES.

I also think people should not waste peoples time I tell other domainers or resellers who ask for a price, I will not sell at reseller prices so this is wasted time I do not want to waste anyones time but don't say WET .tv what's the price ? and I am a reseller. Not interested in resellers for that domain or about 6 others. Other domains sure I will sell at a reseller price. I bought a great domain here Swimsuitmodels.tv from Searching and he gave a fair price and I have given fair prices on domains like SmallBusinessChannel.tv and Cayman-Islands.tv but do not ask for a reseller price on an LLL that is a word . Again IMO

 

[redwolf]

So I say "GO CRAP REGGING!!!!" because that means more people are joining the tv moonies, and more and more they will be looking to the people with great names for possible purchases.

Agree, 100%. It's normal market issue. There are always useful things and useless, well-considered and strange or even stupid... But that's all natural, according to the law of life. And yes, Grooves.TV, your (and many others') tries to regulate it and to bring to reason are also fit in this reality scheme.
And who knows what that will result in... It's evolution. :imho:

 

[Jammer]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy.

 

[poiuytrewq]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy.

Perhaps you should read my post again dude (paragraph 3 for instance). You have clearly not understood my point.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy.

I have to echo your sentiments here. I know there have been dozens of times that I have checked sales on dnjournal and was shocked/confused why some of those names sold for what they did. But there is much that I don't know, and I'm learning new things everyday, so I try not to judge other people's names too harshly these days. 'Cause quite frankly, one never really knows what a name may sell for to the right end-user.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Who cares

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy.

I agree 100%. Not everyone is buying a domain name with the idea of making money. I too, am into music videos, with Abstracts.tv. I don't care if I ever make a penny with it, or are my intentions to sell it. It is just a place to put music I like, and can share with my friends. It didn't even start out as that. The name Abstracts, has nothing to do with music, who cares!
Frank

 

[redwolf]

... But there is much that I don't know, and I'm learning new things everyday, so I try not to judge other people's names too harshly these days...

Golden words! :hearts:

 

[poiuytrewq]

"That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy."



Yes I am big nasty teddy bear and if someone regs cattylitter.tv, I might think it's crap but if they love it then it is ever so morally reprehensible for me to be a big meanie and want to regulate things and stop the poor guy from regging cattylitter.tv and yeah that's great because that's what the thread was about in the first place see wasn't it I just wanted to say i wanna regulate things and i want y'all to stop buying domains cos I hate you all and you're all crap and my music video domains are great and I love cheese and I have some cheese domains but you might hate the cheese domains but you might have lots of salad domains which i hate but you like them so then that's ok then live and let live and all that cos that's what my post was about wasn't it cos i just wanna spoil your fun and i should just go and hit myself on the head with a large cucumber...

Anyway,

I will post this again because it obviously got overlooked:

"But yeah, if you look you can still pick up that awesome generic name for $xxx!"

"Point of my rant: Surely it is better to have one awesome name which cost $xxx and will increase in value than 50 crap ones which cost $x,xxx and is just gonna gather virtual dust. Dot TV is still a largely unproven market in its infancy".

 

[Jammer]

And my point was quite simple.There is no one right way to do things.
How I spend $25 is nobody's business but my own.
if I want to spend $25 on a name like mydogsfunkynewhaircut.TV and then try to sell it...so what?Who cares?I can buy whatever I want with my money.



I will post this again because it obviously got overlooked:

"But yeah, if you look you can still pick up that awesome generic name for $xxx!"

"Point of my rant: Surely it is better to have one awesome name which cost $xxx and will increase in value than 50 crap ones which cost $x,xxx and is just gonna gather virtual dust. Dot TV is still a largely unproven market in its infancy".[/QUOTE]

 

[poiuytrewq]

I give up.

Whateeeever.

 

[redwolf]

The question Grooves.TV raised moved me back into thinking about those names which meant nothing and was regged by $7-8 but became great. To be not offtopic here, I started another thread about that.

 

[hullswingerscom]

mydogsfunkynewhaircut.TV i love it i may reg it tonight

 

[del.icio.us]

mydogsfunkynewhaircut.TV i love it i may reg it tonight

:gn: :lol:


Interesting....

No one is registering a domain name to waste his money. More than 90% of domainers' intention is to make money out of his/her investment apart from developing a website. In fact, most of them might have already committed/still committing crappy registrations. It's a human nature to test whatever we can afford, to achieve a success, and it keeps on until we struck up with the renewal dates. Learning is the best experience, and every domain owners including me, will realize some of our worthless registrations when the renewal date arrives. No one can stop the newcomers from registering crappy names. The cost of learning the domaining directly proportional to the number of crappy names owned by a new domainer. :hehe:

 

[vaunter]

I give up.

Whateeeever.

Man is like talking to the rocks.

We, antropocentric minded humans, don´t like advices, so we don´t learn until it hurts:

We all started this way and the second year we only payed the renewal of 2% of the portfolio.

Whateeeeever, there is a lot of knowledge a serious (at least with his money) domainer can find here at NP.

 

[xman]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it,but that doesn't mean it's right.Everyone has different interests,so what may seem foolish to you,may not in fact be foolish to someone else.Your niche is obviously music videos...well I have no interest all all in music videos,so that choice of name wouldn't be appropriate for me,but that doesn't make it a crap or foolish name.You may not have the same interests as me,but my names may be important to me and I see value and usage in them.What other people buy is really none of your business and it makes no sense to try and regulate what otherpeople want to buy.

Some very valid points here from Jammer and I have to agree.

I will post this again because it obviously got overlooked:

"But yeah, if you look you can still pick up that awesome generic name for $xxx!"

Now for me that's a waste of money.

I can still pick up some good quality generic names for reg. fee and why should I pay hundreds of $$$ if I could get it for reg. free.

If betting is allowed I would bet on you on that statement so I can reg. all these generic names in my lists.

 

[WolfMother]

Yes it makes us cringe when we read the garbage .tv names. What are you gonna do about it? Stop people from making bad moves? pssh.

One of my friends thought it was a good idea to invest into russian milk production despite me giving him a handful of better investment alternatives. He lost somewhere around $5k into that venture. People are going to do what they do regardless of how much you try to intervene because of natural human stupidity. I am wasting my breath here considering we see only a small percentage of the new crap here in the appraisal section.

What I take from this is that some of my names(which a few of you thought were not good) actually have some serious worth compared to similar .tv sales. So enjoy the bogus regs, have a laugh, and smile if you have good ones.