Vegan Debate

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Do we have any vegans at NamePros?

Anyone want to debate why they believe they have the right to enslave, manipulate, force, bully into submission, and send innocent gentle animals to a slaughterhouse full of uneducated employees that have a career in mass murder?

 

[frank-germany]

I am curious tho about natural taste. What are people's thoughts on that. Naturally most reject vegetables, it's one of the hardest types of foods to get kids to eat. Why is that? Could it be what the hippy said in the video earlier about fruits? I don't see too many rejecting meat, naturally.

by the way

what that p*nis at the right hand site of the table?

 

[Wannabean]

I can live w/o
sometimes it's just not convenient

Here's the quote JB.

I think some of you just can't admit you actually like the taste. If you didn't, you wouldn't have eaten it all the years before you became vegetarian. People tend to naturally like meat, unlike vegetables.

I wouldn't really know what it tastes like! I've been vegetarian all my life and I'm perfectly happy and healthy.

 

[JB Lions]

I wouldn't really know what it tastes like! I've been vegetarian all my life and I'm perfectly happy and healthy.

Vegetarian since birth, never ate meat?

 

[JB Lions]

doesn't make it more true
if you repeat it

children don't reject vegetables

but if you can't cook
they naturally will reject stuff that doesn't taste well

its a matter of the parents been able to present a tasty meal or not

Actually they do. Kids not liking to eat vegetables is pretty well known.

"Our taste buds naturally prefer things that are sweet or salty. Because vegetables are neither of these, they aren’t a natural preference."

Lots of articles on it with possible reasons - https://www.google.com/search?q=why+don't+kids+like+vegetables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

[Wannabean]

Vegetarian since birth, never ate meat?

Yes since birth. My parents made the decision for me when I was younger and once I was old enough to decide for myself, I didn't want to change.

 

[frank-germany]

Actually they do. Kids not liking to eat vegetables is pretty well known.

"Our taste buds naturally prefer things that are sweet or salty. Because vegetables are neither of these, they aren’t a natural preference."

that is simple BS

I am used to add salt and spice to vegetables
you can even roast them

 

[JB Lions]

that is simple BS

I am used to add salt and spice to vegetables
you can even roast them

That quote came from a doctor, then you just said you and salt and spice to them, backing it up. I'm talking about natural taste, nothing else. Put a baby/child in front of some food, vegetables, meat etc. It's why it's sort of a joke with parents, trying to get their kids to eat vegetables. I have never heard that with meat.

 

[frank-germany]

That quote came from a doctor, then you just said you and salt and spice to them, backing it up.

eat your meat unspice and unsalted

what a BS
really

 

[JB Lions]

eat your meat unspice and unsalted

what a BS
really

I don't think you're even reading what I'm posting.

 

[frank-germany]

I don't think you're even reading what I'm posting.

"Our taste buds naturally prefer things that are sweet or salty. Because vegetables are neither of these, they aren’t a natural preference."

that is utter nonsense

 

[JB Lions]

that is utter nonsense

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...cle_61a618b0-327d-11e2-ac86-0019bb2963f4.html

Are you really completely unaware of parents struggle to get their kids to eat their veggies?

 

[frank-germany]

Why Do Children Choose Not to Eat Meat?
July 30, 2012 No comments
by Brian Duignan

In 2005, 5 percent of U.S. children aged 8 to 12 were vegetarian, according to a Harris Interactive (online) poll. By 2010, that figure had increased to 8 percent. Among young vegetarian children, a sizeable number were independent vegetarians; that is, they had decided on their own not to eat meat, against the practice (and sometimes the wishes) of their parents and other family members.

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2012/07/why-do-children-choose-not-to-eat-meat/

 

[frank-germany]

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...cle_61a618b0-327d-11e2-ac86-0019bb2963f4.html

Are you really completely unaware of parents struggle to get their kids to eat their veggies?

better they learn to cook

 

[JB Lions]

Why Do Children Choose Not to Eat Meat?
July 30, 2012 No comments
by Brian Duignan

In 2005, 5 percent of U.S. children aged 8 to 12 were vegetarian, according to a Harris Interactive (online) poll. By 2010, that figure had increased to 8 percent. Among young vegetarian children, a sizeable number were independent vegetarians; that is, they had decided on their own not to eat meat, against the practice (and sometimes the wishes) of their parents and other family members.

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2012/07/why-do-children-choose-not-to-eat-meat/

You're just proving you're not reading my posts. That article said most chose because of moral reasons, which is learned.

I'm talking about 1 thing only, natural taste. You haven't given your opinions on that yet, except to say stuff like utter nonsense, which is nonsense in itself. I linked to an article with a doctor explaining it and you can read more on it.

You don't have to bribe or condition kids to eat meat, with vegetables you do a lot of the time. We naturally like what we like. Don't deny it, eat it.

 

[frank-germany]

You're just proving you're not reading my posts. That article said most chose because of moral reasons, which is learned.

I'm talking about 1 thing only, natural taste.

just take the meat away doesn't make a tasty vegetarian meal

if you are not used to prepare vegetables
they may indeed taste horrible

but thats not the fault of the vegetables
its the fault of the cook

 

[frank-germany]

I can help you out:

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/1987891322172392/Sloppy-Joes-vegetarisch.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/925921197897680/Enchilada-verdura.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2764251428324305/400er-Gulasch-Poerkoelt.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2690211421751404/Champignonspiesse-vom-Grill-vegetarisch.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2671121419265443/Couscous-Gemuese-Curry.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/1513211256635556/Spitzkohl-mit-Roquefortsauce.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2111...offel-Erdnuss-Sosse-mit-feiner-Kokosnote.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2297621366295868/Brokkoli-Curry-Omelett.html

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/2539701397815033/Knusprige-Salbei-Kartoffeln.html



use google translate

.. I am becoming hungry

 

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Interesting, what is more selfish - cremation of body (bacterias and worms do not get their dinner, you pollute and warm atmosphere, but then do not catch any significant place) or just old fashion burying (happy bacterias and worms, but even after the full cadaver disposals you still catch (for generations !) 2 - 5 sq. meters, that might be used for growing cucumbers)

The ultimate solution is that humans will not interfere with other forms of life.
It is our evolutionary path. Some are taking the right steps already.
The ultimate evolutionary goal, that perhaps has already been reached by life in the universe already.
Animals are like our children, that we must take care of and leave one day to take their own evolutionary path and grow into 'adults' (hypothetically speaking). We ourselves are a relatively young species, in terms of planet Earth's history. All life on Earth is related, whether 97% human DNA, or 20% human DNA.
We will leave the Earth some day to take to the stars. Our animal children will not be coming with us.

 

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What do they eat in space now?

http://phys.org/news/2016-09-full-circle-space-algae-malnutrition.html

There are no excuses anymore. We have the knowledge.

 

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Unless we are a good food source, in which case they might just eat us instead.

Would you want to associate with a species like that?