Aman Tibrewal
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Why should I go for Undeveloped landing page (which attracts certain % commission) when I can set my own (HTML) landing page? Please suggest!
Paying someone 9% just for a landing page, including no escrow or payment plan service beyond what you could set up yourself via escrow.com (and have the buyer pay for, which is not an option at UnDeveloped) is mind boggling. No brokerage service is included in that 9% - you negotiate your own sales - which makes, at 9%, UnDeveloped the most expensive escrow service on the planet.
Anyone who comes on here and justifies such a thing I’d love to add to my GlenGarry Glen Ross “hot leads” list.
It's great that there are options, like Undeveloped.com, offering innovations, making life easier (if you take advantage of their service). I agree that their fee is somewhat inflated, but they do offer certain value for money, run a professional shop and offer great customer support.
It's also great that there is Epik, offering most of what Undeveloped.com does, most notably payment plans, all but commission free. Professional and friendly custimer support, too.
And it's great that there is Efty, with an entirely different business model, charging a modest, fixed monthly fee, commission free,also offering certain value for money. Also innovative, professional and with great customer service.
And last but not least, it's even better to have your own, equally professional looking and innovative landers. Or even better ones. If you can swing it.
IMHO
And we are not even talking about the added benefit that some buyers will go to Undeveloped and browse the inventory there, which doesn't happen when you have your own landing.
I would say that you are right about undeveloped traffic, but that's not important, the important stuff it's the trust, in my case european market. I can tell you that for an european buying it's easier to buy from a company that they can verify and which does not have bad reviews. Try to google godaddy, afternic, and the other big marketplaces for bad reviews and see what's the result. In Eu 90% of the buyers never heard about godddy, they just check if the company is genuine and use it. I could not do the same with my own landing pages, because nobody knows me and nobody can verify how genuine I am. Regarding escrow.com, I will not use them even if they will be free. Regarding undeveloped vs godaddy, two inquiries received in the same day, the one from undeveloped reached an agreement in 2 days and in the fourth I had the money in my account, the one with godaddy after 7 days is still in the 'verifying funds' status, and after everything is done, you pay 20% and wait another 20 days to cash out. We are not even talking about the general bad reviews about godaddy. So mostly, I need undeveloped for inquiring received directly to my domains, which they can assure escrow and fast payout, which they are doing. If they don't work for you, that doesn't mean that they don't work for anybody. Try to check undeveloped on google and try to google xynames and see the result, one is owned by epik, with close to 200 reviews on trustpilot and on other reviews sites, people talking about them on hundreds of sites. Xynames appears as one site with linkedin page and a couple of other forwards. So, if I would be a buyer, and knew about escrow.com bad reputation, which one do you think that I will choose? I know that you have good names, but I know that you could loose some leads by insisting to use your own, but it's your choice. PS: I know also that you have some old issues with undeveloped, but you should not export them on every thread on this forum.The traffic of people browsing domains at UnDeveloped - if you understand Calculus - is a limit approaching zero - meaning, about zilch.
I’ve had the same 1500 domains listed at Afternic Sedo DomainAgents UnDeveloped UniRegistry for the past year. I use my own landing pages.
Offers at Afternic Sedo DomainAgents - weekly sometimes daily - closed sales at these three - approximately weekly.
Offers at UniRegistry past year? About six - no closed sales.
Offers at UnDeveloped past year? Just one for under fifty bucks lol (and the same guy made a bid for 10x higher on Afternic later that day - shows you how much of a joke the offeror viewed UnDeveloped marketplace as being (I accepted neither offer, it was a mid five figure domain). Closed sales at UnDeveloped?
If you’re going to say something, at least have it backed up by some kind of data.
In any case, if there is any “benefit” (I say, Nay!) you may list your domains everywhere and still have your own landing pages.
I edited the quote to make is shorter.Offers at UnDeveloped past year? Just one for under fifty bucks lol (and the same guy made a bid for 10x higher on Afternic later that day - shows you how much of a joke the offeror viewed UnDeveloped marketplace as being) (I accepted neither offer, it was a mid five figure domain). Closed sales at UnDeveloped?
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The traffic of people browsing domains at UnDeveloped - if you understand Calculus - is a limit approaching zero - meaning, about zilch.
I’ve had the same 1500 domains listed at Afternic Sedo DomainAgents UnDeveloped UniRegistry for the past year. I use my own landing pages.
Offers at Afternic Sedo DomainAgents - weekly sometimes daily - closed sales at these three - approximately weekly.
Offers at UniRegistry past year? About six - no closed sales.
Offers at UnDeveloped past year? Just one for under fifty bucks lol (and the same guy made a bid for 10x higher on Afternic later that day - shows you how much of a joke the offeror viewed UnDeveloped marketplace as being) (I accepted neither offer, it was a mid five figure domain). Closed sales at UnDeveloped?
If you’re going to say something, at least have it backed up by some kind of data.
In any case, if there is any “benefit” to listing your domains at UnDeveloped (I say, Nay!) you may list your domains everywhere including at UnDeveloped and still have your own landing pages.
UmerK, you must compare Apples with Apples.
My comparison is of the Afternic Sedo DomainAgents Uniregistry UnDeveloped marketplaces.
The UnDeveloped marketplace is...well...UNDeveloped. The name says it all. You think they picked that name by accident? If I name my business "nothingsells.com" would that say something, or not?
This is hard data. SAME 1500 domains listed in all five marketplaces, offers and closed sales from Afternic Sedo DomainAgents: many...from Uniregistry: almost none...from UNDeveloped: nearly zero.
Whatever you are speculating on, with respect, is not based on hard data. Indeed, it is based on nothing at all until you have hard data.
Why should I go for Undeveloped landing page (which attracts certain % commission) when I can set my own (HTML) landing page? Please suggest!
Hard data aside the key fact is Undeveloped creates a layer of trust, everybody's portfolio and the way of domaining is different.UmerK, you must compare Apples with Apples.
My comparison is of the Afternic Sedo DomainAgents Uniregistry UnDeveloped marketplaces.
The UnDeveloped marketplace is...well...UNDeveloped. The name says it all. You think they picked that name by accident? If I name my business "nothingsells.com" would that say something, or not?
This is hard data. SAME 1500 domains listed in all five marketplaces, offers and closed sales from Afternic Sedo DomainAgents: many...from Uniregistry: almost none...from UNDeveloped: nearly zero.
Whatever you are speculating on, with respect, is not based on hard data. Indeed, it is based on nothing at all until you have hard data.
This was already discussed many times in many threads.
If Make Offer mode - then lander doesn't matter at all.