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.UK Buyers Have Overpaid

Labeled as analysis in ccTLD Discussion started by DomainNameBroker.com, Jul 22, 2019.

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  1. DomainNameBroker.com

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    Individuals who purchased recently released .uk domain names from auction have overpaid. They will either lose money or brake even, the probability of turning a profit is at around zero.
     
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  2. Dosebuy

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    Why is this? Can you please expand?
     
  3. DomainNameBroker.com

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    The resale market for .uk is tiny. The purchase prices at auction were quite high.
     
  4. MrAcidic

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    Do you mean the Sedo Auction?

    Listed a few below so people can have a look for themselves, courtesy of Namebio.

    Domain Price Date Venue
    accountancy.uk 5,548 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    court.uk 4,568 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    setup.uk 4,131 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    hostels.uk 3,513 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    webserver.uk 3,135 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    perfect.uk 2,258 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    smartphone.uk 2,007 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    sitebuilder.uk 1,945 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    coworking.uk 1,694 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    espresso.uk 1,380 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    mountainbike.uk 1,317 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    gameplay.uk 1,255 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    bankloan.uk 1,192 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fair.uk 1,177 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    callcentre.uk 1,098 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fairplay.uk 1,068 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    ppl.uk 1,010 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    heartbeat.uk 877 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    scc.uk 861 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    crepes.uk 853 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    update.uk 816 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    ayurveda.uk 784 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fis.uk 704 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    cdw.uk 703 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    penis.uk 626 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    technologies.uk 626 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    reiki.uk 625 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    ssb.uk 597 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    sluts.uk 565 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    hsc.uk 556 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    ott.uk 528 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fms.uk 521 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    authentic.uk 501 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fbc.uk 470 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    atlantis.uk 469 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    bits.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    emg.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    dtr.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    itb.uk 430 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    psw.uk 420 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    smug.uk 418 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    essence.uk 415 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    skischool.uk 415 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    rgl.uk 414 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    isd.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    ede.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    lia.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    tei.uk 401 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    standards.uk 388 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    macho.uk 379 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    dent.uk 345 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    wsg.uk 339 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    wbb.uk 335 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    pse.uk 326 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    generation.uk 325 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    montage.uk 319 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    electrics.uk 305 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    brighter.uk 305 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    goodnight.uk 295 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    puff.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    everyday.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    laird.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    presentation.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    lyra.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    launderette.uk 252 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    jazzy.uk 250 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    vad.uk 235 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    grind.uk 232 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    flexi.uk 227 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    dead.uk 227 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    bernhard.uk 221 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    cityguide.uk 201 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    signup.uk 198 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    induction.uk 196 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    fingerprint.uk 169 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    thinkbig.uk 163 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    mueller.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    effect.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    gown.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    industrialdesign.uk 138 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    niro.uk 137 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    geoip.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    onlinebackup.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    liar.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    kali.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    dict.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    slowcooking.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    homeland.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    movo.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    riz.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    bellavista.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    miriam.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    rookie.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    iman.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    furry.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    insert.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    melinda.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    jule.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    gigi.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
    lifecare.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
     
  5. The Durfer

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    I think he means they have been using the .co.uk already and feels this is more business like for the uk then just .uk is. I could be wrong, but still will catch a lesser value than .com anyway.
     
  6. MrAcidic

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    considering accountancy.co.uk does not resolve, I think the owner of the .uk is gonna struggle to sell unless it is an end user purchase.....
     
  7. DomainNameBroker.com

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    These prices are too high for .uk extension if you aim to make a profit.
     
  8. MadAboutDomains

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    DomainNameBroker.com is full of valuable insight.

    That's a bargain if you aim to create a business out of it. As a blanket statement to say "Individuals who purchased recently released .uk domain names from auction have overpaid." is bs.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
  9. MrAcidic

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    I did say unless it was an end user sale....no blanket statement was made for accountancy.uk by myself....
     
  10. BaileyUK

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    I do agree. I think there's an element of wanting/wishing for a new market boost to take the stagnation out of the .co.uk scene.

    It might reawaken interest but in the short term all that it has done is Double the number of domains for the same sized market.

    For those of us that remember the heydays of co.uk equating to 10% of the .com value. Today appears to be a graveyard in comparison
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
  11. jmcc

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    There's a danger of conflating stagnation in domain name sales with the dynamics of .CO.UK market. The .CO.UK subdomain is still rather healthy in terms of a general market. However, a mature TLD is not a monolith and domain names drop each month and others are registered.

    The June figures from Nominet show that the .UK sub is about 3.61 million registrations compared to about 9.7 million in other subdomains. Admittedly some of the 3.61 million registrations are registrar land grabs that may not renew well.

    Regards...jmcc
     
  12. wizard

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    Yes some great sales have happened i have sold a few .UK i caught in the ROR as i didn't just want the .uk i hold thousands of domains but prefer to hold both co.uk and .uk and still selling far more co.uk the only .uk selling are to traders or investors to hold but with price increases etc its turning me back to .com
     
  13. frank-germany

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    never trust a statistic you didn't fake yourself
     
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  15. MapleDots

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    I will disagree with you on this.
    The reason the auction prices were high is because people saw the value in the extension.
    Shorter is always better and eventually .uk will move to the foreground.

    If you look at .uk as a long term investment it is a good choice. If I was from that region I would be buying up every dictionary word I could get my hands on. In ten years time I would invite you to my mansion to chew the fat and show you how domaining paid the bill.

    Seems like you are a long term member so chances are we will both be here in 10 years, I'm going to make a reminder to direct a post at you to discuss .uk at that time. Hopefully we are both healthy at that point but I am very confident that .uk will be a dominant force by then.
     
  16. DomainNameBroker.com

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    If you aim to make a profit through resale, you can't pay these prices. These name are very unlikely to be resold for higher than what has been pain on auction.
     
  17. MapleDots

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    Says who?
    Anything that has a limited supply will eventually go up in value. If anything the auction prices have already set a precedence for value.
     
  18. DomainNameBroker.com

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    You need to become more realistic.

    Limited demand, not only supply.
     
  19. MapleDots

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    Again, where are your facts?

    What makes you think there is limited demand? You just set they sold at high auction prices, that shows demand?

    Wholesale, retail, does not matter, whenever it sells there is demand.

    The UK is a big place, single words will go up exponentially in value.

    PS. Focus on what I have said from the get go....

    Single dictionary word .uk domains
     
  20. DomainNameBroker.com

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    Single dictionary word domains at what acuisition cost?
     
  21. The Durfer

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    What about the chinese number game also?
     
  22. MadAboutDomains

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    Exactly. Which is why your initial statement is bs
     
  23. BaileyUK

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    I think what some of us are trying to point out is that is that a lot of these terms that are selling is pretty close to what we would expect the .CO.UK sell for in todays market.

    The launch of the shorter.UK (and much less known) is not going to grow our ground. Sure you maybe right and in ten years the .UK maybe the more prominent one. I just think there has been a bit more of an element of "Me To" in this uk issue. If you'd seen the number of UK (domainers) registering for the UK release 'Slots quota' Even I was quite shocked.

    Seemed everyone and his dog wanted to get their hands on an efficient Script. (preferably free) To me the obvious point is the failure to capture on the drop, is now driving-up the auction prices, while everyone still has their hands in the pie,

    Now of course those that had super-efficient scripts, large quota access. and the bandwidth are reaping the benefits, but you can bet 99% of all drop registration attempts failed. Now you are going to want that domain/s whatever
     
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  24. MapleDots

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    I could not agree with you more, it's a bargain basement price for a single word .uk.

    OMG imagine building a business on it an in ten years saying you bought the domain for only 3,500 :notworthy:

    Hell you basically bought your business identity for the price of a few newspaper ads.

    @DomainNameBroker.com I have to say I am a bit surprised you cannot see it as an opportune time to get in on the action.
     
  25. MadAboutDomains

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    It's interesting how many people appear have found interest in the .UK namespace now since the RoR. I see it as a good thing.

    The big holders are still the big holders because they all snagged their .UK names to match their large .co.uk holdings, most brands got their .UK names so not much of an effect there and there's a nice healthy amount of people invested in the .UK namespace which I would argue wasn't there before, as also eluded to how you mention that there was a huge spike in tag holders leading up to the .
    big releases.

    Looking at that sedo list I think personally that most of the lll .uks in that list don't reflect the .co.uk prices. I haven't seen many lll.co.uks with decent letters go for that low.

    Interested to know your thoughts.
     

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