analysis .UK Buyers Have Overpaid

[Business Brands]

Individuals who purchased recently released .uk domain names from auction have overpaid. They will either lose money or brake even, the probability of turning a profit is at around zero.

 

[MadAboutDomains]

.co is garbage.

Crap.

.app is crapp

.top is garbage.

.ICU is as garbage as Geneva is a home of slave owners.

DomainNameBroker.com is full of valuable insight.

hostels.uk 3,513 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo

That's a bargain if you aim to create a business out of it. As a blanket statement to say "Individuals who purchased recently released .uk domain names from auction have overpaid." is bs.

 

[NickB]

Do you mean the Sedo Auction?

Listed a few below so people can have a look for themselves, courtesy of Namebio.

Domain Price Date Venue
accountancy.uk 5,548 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
court.uk 4,568 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
setup.uk 4,131 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
hostels.uk 3,513 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
webserver.uk 3,135 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
perfect.uk 2,258 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
smartphone.uk 2,007 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
sitebuilder.uk 1,945 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
coworking.uk 1,694 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
espresso.uk 1,380 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
mountainbike.uk 1,317 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
gameplay.uk 1,255 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
bankloan.uk 1,192 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fair.uk 1,177 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
callcentre.uk 1,098 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fairplay.uk 1,068 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
ppl.uk 1,010 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
heartbeat.uk 877 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
scc.uk 861 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
crepes.uk 853 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
update.uk 816 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
ayurveda.uk 784 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fis.uk 704 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
cdw.uk 703 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
penis.uk 626 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
technologies.uk 626 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
reiki.uk 625 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
ssb.uk 597 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
sluts.uk 565 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
hsc.uk 556 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
ott.uk 528 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fms.uk 521 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
authentic.uk 501 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fbc.uk 470 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
atlantis.uk 469 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
bits.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
emg.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
dtr.uk 452 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
itb.uk 430 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
psw.uk 420 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
smug.uk 418 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
essence.uk 415 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
skischool.uk 415 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
rgl.uk 414 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
isd.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
ede.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
lia.uk 403 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
tei.uk 401 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
standards.uk 388 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
macho.uk 379 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
dent.uk 345 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
wsg.uk 339 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
wbb.uk 335 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
pse.uk 326 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
generation.uk 325 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
montage.uk 319 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
electrics.uk 305 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
brighter.uk 305 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
goodnight.uk 295 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
puff.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
everyday.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
laird.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
presentation.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
lyra.uk 277 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
launderette.uk 252 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
jazzy.uk 250 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
vad.uk 235 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
grind.uk 232 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
flexi.uk 227 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
dead.uk 227 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
bernhard.uk 221 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
cityguide.uk 201 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
signup.uk 198 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
induction.uk 196 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
fingerprint.uk 169 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
thinkbig.uk 163 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
mueller.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
effect.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
gown.uk 152 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
industrialdesign.uk 138 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
niro.uk 137 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
geoip.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
onlinebackup.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
liar.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
kali.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
dict.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
slowcooking.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
homeland.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
movo.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
riz.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
bellavista.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
miriam.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
rookie.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
iman.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
furry.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
insert.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
melinda.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
jule.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
gigi.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
lifecare.uk 124 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo

 

[wizard]

Yes some great sales have happened i have sold a few .UK i caught in the ROR as i didn't just want the .uk i hold thousands of domains but prefer to hold both co.uk and .uk and still selling far more co.uk the only .uk selling are to traders or investors to hold but with price increases etc its turning me back to .com

 

[frank-germany]

The resale market for .uk is tiny. The purchase prices at auction were quite high.

never trust a statistic you didn't fake yourself

 

[MapleDots]

The resale market for .uk is tiny. The purchase prices at auction were quite high.

I will disagree with you on this.
The reason the auction prices were high is because people saw the value in the extension.
Shorter is always better and eventually .uk will move to the foreground.

If you look at .uk as a long term investment it is a good choice. If I was from that region I would be buying up every dictionary word I could get my hands on. In ten years time I would invite you to my mansion to chew the fat and show you how domaining paid the bill.

Seems like you are a long term member so chances are we will both be here in 10 years, I'm going to make a reminder to direct a post at you to discuss .uk at that time. Hopefully we are both healthy at that point but I am very confident that .uk will be a dominant force by then.

 

[JagG]

Do you mean the Sedo Auction?

Listed a few below so people can have a look for themselves, courtesy of Namebio.

Domain Price Date Venue
accountancy.uk 5,548 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
court.uk 4,568 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
setup.uk 4,131 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
hostels.uk 3,513 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
webserver.uk 3,135 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
perfect.uk 2,258 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
smartphone.uk 2,007 USD 2019-07-18 Sedo
.....

The auctions for .uk at Domainlore.uk sold for ....

• Shopping.uk closed at £35k
  
• insure.uk £10,200
  
• Room.uk £5099
• Rooms.uk £5505
• SelfStorage.uk £5,352
• whisky.uk £10,750
• CommercialProperty.uk £5,244

Plus many more names sold recently.... Not all sold names are reported on Namebio .... #JustSaying

 

[Business Brands]

These prices are too high for .uk extension if you aim to make a profit.

 

[jmcc]

I do agree. I think there's an element of wanting/wishing for a new market boost to take the stagnation out of the .co.uk scene.

There's a danger of conflating stagnation in domain name sales with the dynamics of .CO.UK market. The .CO.UK subdomain is still rather healthy in terms of a general market. However, a mature TLD is not a monolith and domain names drop each month and others are registered.

The June figures from Nominet show that the .UK sub is about 3.61 million registrations compared to about 9.7 million in other subdomains. Admittedly some of the 3.61 million registrations are registrar land grabs that may not renew well.

Regards...jmcc

 

[BaileyUK]

I think what some of us are trying to point out is that is that a lot of these terms that are selling is pretty close to what we would expect the .CO.UK sell for in todays market.

The launch of the shorter.UK (and much less known) is not going to grow our ground. Sure you maybe right and in ten years the .UK maybe the more prominent one. I just think there has been a bit more of an element of "Me To" in this uk issue. If you'd seen the number of UK (domainers) registering for the UK release 'Slots quota' Even I was quite shocked.

Seemed everyone and his dog wanted to get their hands on an efficient Script. (preferably free) To me the obvious point is the failure to capture on the drop, is now driving-up the auction prices, while everyone still has their hands in the pie,

Now of course those that had super-efficient scripts, large quota access. and the bandwidth are reaping the benefits, but you can bet 99% of all drop registration attempts failed. Now you are going to want that domain/s whatever

 

[MadAboutDomains]

Didn't see much going on before the 'unclaimed rights' went to market recently.

I'm really not surprised. The .UK namespace appears to have a handful of people that are heavily invested in the bulk of the 'good' domains. (Giraffe, Domains.co.uk). This .UK release has given a tiny taste of what it would be like if the .UK domain market was a bit more fluid. A tiny taste because, after all, there were only ~40k domains registered in the RoR drops.

We'll have to see what the future holds for .UK. I'm just here to fight against the blanket ".UK is crap" sentiment

More names available to more people can't be a bad thing imho. Bad for prices maybe due to supply and demand, but the demand appears pretty healthy at the moment doesn't it.

 

[BaileyUK]

These prices are too high for .uk extension if you aim to make a profit.

I do agree. I think there's an element of wanting/wishing for a new market boost to take the stagnation out of the .co.uk scene.

It might reawaken interest but in the short term all that it has done is Double the number of domains for the same sized market.

For those of us that remember the heydays of co.uk equating to 10% of the .com value. Today appears to be a graveyard in comparison

 

[MapleDots]

You need to become more realistic.

Limited demand, not only supply.

Again, where are your facts?

What makes you think there is limited demand? You just set they sold at high auction prices, that shows demand?

Wholesale, retail, does not matter, whenever it sells there is demand.

The UK is a big place, single words will go up exponentially in value.

PS. Focus on what I have said from the get go....

Single dictionary word .uk domains

 

[BaileyUK]

Another point to be made, Is lets not forget all of us with .co.uks have had several years to sell our assigned UK's either as a pair or individually. Didn't see much going on before the 'unclaimed rights' went to market recently. Any savvy company (or individual) took care of their assigned UK's years ago - they never were part of any drop

* For those that are unaware ALL .co.uk holders were assigned their shorter .UKs and in most cases for FREE for two years. This recent event was for all the UNCLAIMED UK's.

In some instances I've personally got another year on my free registration period, Yep three years in total, and they all show as registered to me in my acco

 

[BuyBrandWeb.com]

DomainNameBroker.com is full of valuable insight.


That's a bargain if you aim to create a business out of it. As a blanket statement to say "Individuals who purchased recently released .uk domain names from auction have overpaid." is bs.

@DomainNameBroker.com Your statements are too aggressive and there are many opportunities to make money in these extensions. I expect .uk sales pick up once people started using .uk like most of the Indian users switched to .in from .co.in
I guess .uk investment is a long term investment!

I made money with .co extension and still see an opportunity there to make money.

 

[MadAboutDomains]

You can check a switch at https://switchedto.uk too!

 

[eurorealtor]

I pulled out of investing into the .uk in the "last minute" I rather stop sticking my nose into a market I don't know much about. I also personally believe there is not much space for profit, unless you brought at reg fee and sell to another domainer. How come so many .co.uk owners never claimed all the decent .uk domains? There must be a reason.

 

[biggie]

How come so many .co.uk owners never claimed all the decent .uk domains?

Good question!

imo...

 

[Business Brands]

The resale market for .uk is tiny. The purchase prices at auction were quite high.

 

[Business Brands]

If you aim to make a profit through resale, you can't pay these prices. These name are very unlikely to be resold for higher than what has been pain on auction.

 

[MapleDots]

These name are very unlikely to be resold for higher than what has been pain on auction.

Says who?
Anything that has a limited supply will eventually go up in value. If anything the auction prices have already set a precedence for value.

 

[platey]

I'm from the uk

. Co.uk

Is the recognised extension

. uk

Will be the preferred choice in time

I order the

. uk

I own both. Co.uk And. uk in some domains as a pair and both extensions in just one of the extensions in some of my domains

If as alleged in seo that Google only needs to know what the product is and where it is

.uk

Is an area

. Co.uk

Isn't

The uk is digitally fast asleep but it will wake up and ain't the. uk And will have to pay top dollar for. uk eventually

Even

. De

. Fr

. Es

And

. It

Aren't areas or a recognised group of countries

. uk

Is

But the uk domain name market and the prices of both. Co.uk And. uk Website addresses will soar in value when the

2 big players in the number plate game in the uk really get in to website addresses

One has the other hasn't as yet but has the stock to

Because they both have 40 years of enduser customers that are absolutely ideal for website addresses

And when they compete for ad space in the papers for website addresses as they do for number plates

The uk Website addresses market will take off big time

 

[MadAboutDomains]

The auctions for .uk at Domainlore.uk sold for ....

• Shopping.uk closed at £35k
  
• insure.uk £10,200
  
• Room.uk £5099
• Rooms.uk £5505
• SelfStorage.uk £5,352
• whisky.uk £10,750
• CommercialProperty.uk £5,244

Plus many more names sold recently.... Not all sold names are reported on Namebio .... #JustSaying

I believe that shopping.uk was £45k. I can confirm that the purchaser of that name certainly doesn't feel like they overpaid, they're extremely pleased with the purchase by the sounds of things. Great name.

 

[frank-germany]

Now there is one trouble spot for .uk that nobody has mentioned yet.
Just like .eu there would be trouble if the union broke apart.

Most countries don't have to worry about that because they are a single entity but if the uk breaks apart for any reason then an investor owning thousands of these would have a problem.

they just announced
that the British can keep the .eu
even when they might leave the eu

 

[jmcc]

We are domain investors and we know domains and extensions, so we automatically assume other people and business pay attention to this.

The problem is that many domainers approach extensions outside .COM using .COM valuation rules and expectations. This can result in a very limited view of the dynamics in these extensions. What makes .UK different is that its natural competition is from within the .UK ccTLD rather than outside (.COM etc).

The sad reality is that probably most people and businesses in the UK are probably not even putting this together. They have a website and a domain and they give it no other thought.

That's where the argument over switching costs arises. A .co.uk owner has a site and an e-mail address(es). If they have a business site then they've probably invested in business cards, logos etc. They may have built a brand and their customers know that brand. Switching to the shorter form will have hidden costs.

In a few years when .uk becomes more prevalent they will see the light and wonder if their .co.uk is available as a shorter .uk. They will be surprised to see a domain investor own it and at that time the haggling will begin.

If it is a generic name, that argument may be OK. However, Nominet has its own dispute resolution process. ( https://www.nominet.uk/domain-support/uk-domain-disputes/ )

Regards...jmcc

 

[wizard]

The values of .co.uk and .ca have actually declined. That is what I mean by not doing well.

They are not declining for me increasing more for co.uk at least