.tv tv.com is bad news for tv

[hullswingerscom]

i have had some offers for my tv.com,,,and lots are regd ,tell me who will win

tv.com v tv.....are we in a ext war

 

[htmlindex]

Mike, you always seem to be undecided about the .tv extention, going back & forth about it.

I remember you started a thread before with the very same heading about a month ago.

 

[StoneRoses]

i have had some offers for my tv.com,,,and lots are regd ,tell me who will win

tv.com v tv.....are we in a ext war

Mike i agree with HTLMIndex, you sway more than Blackpool Tower on a windy day.
You tend to make a blanket statement on the future of .TV based purely on your own experiences of how many offers you have had on your names. :imho:
Obviously, debate is good but i feel we are going round in cirlces with this and just going over old ground.

 

[Ctack]

I agree with you hull, now pm me a list of your best tv's, i will take them off your hands..

 

[equity78]

This is not an either/or situation IMO. You first have to assess your own personal goals and investments in TV centric domains.

.com is the dominant extension worldwide no doubt about that.
TV is the most recognized two letter phrase in the world regardless of language. IMO this makes the .tv extension intuitive for certain keywords and development.

There is more than one theme going on, some came to .tv to get a keyword, any keyword regardless if it was intuitive or "went" with the extension. Others are focused on entertainment/video domains and see .tv as a logical choice.

Personally I believe you want to have a diversified portfolio of both .tv/tv.com/possibly your own cctld if it is highly established and large. I own Sexytv.us and FCtv.co.uk as cctld examples. FC gets interest as Football Club is popular in the UK. SEXY tv taken in many extensions so I wanted to have a couple in the cctld arena. I own some TV.org that are geo related. AustraliaTV.org, Hong Kong Tv.org. Gratistv.org gets 3 uniques a day Gratis being free in Spanish.

My point being it depends why you invested, I like TV/entertainment related I am not into .tv just for the extension .tv but for domains that are entertainment/Television related.

Someone like Rogue Writer who has a strong background in affiliate sales, has a good portfolio in this area and he has a different investment theme in .tv. Imo they both work. Someone like Roy has a strong portfolio in product/generic related domains.

So in using these three examples, I believe each has a good portfolio and a good plan. Whether tv.com fits into it I think will differ in each of these three along with all the other excellent portfolio owners on the forum. IMO it makes sense to have both but everyone is different it is just a matter of preference not a battle between two extensions with only one winner. There is plenty of room for both to do well.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

i have had some offers for my tv.com,,,and lots are regd ,tell me who will win

tv.com v tv.....are we in a ext war

Mike IMO tv.com is not bad news for .tv
it is actually good news as it represents more use of the "tv" concept on the internet and that helps everyone.

From a branding standpoint, I think tv.com does not look as good or as sexy as .tv
However, for type in traffic and defensive regging, tv.com is good.
Plus I thik the general population is still confused on domain names, the average person does not even understand that there are other extensions besides .com

 

[freedom30]

tv.com is kitschy, but has a certain appeal right now.

As for .tv,as in all applications of any extension, the litmus test will be how endusers actually use the domain name. .tv will still come out on top as time goes by. :imho:

Mindwrecker makes a valid point.

 

[antonis12]

i don't mean to be flippant but this is a silly question. it is not like one is going to "win" and one is going to "lose"

they both will do fine and generally the more keyword.tv and keywordtv.com sites there are out there, the better for everyone.

 

[Makis.TV]

there is nothing new to talk or post about inside this topic

 

[TheBulldog]

Your absolutely correct. But what you should really be worried about is xxxxxx.tv.com.au.net.eu.org.info

That extension is what will kill .tv

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I am VERY big into TV.com but would suggest that .TV has a future - regardless of any other extensions.

 

[Argos]

No, tv.com isn't a bad news Mike, user habit is still .com formatted, the adding of the acronym 'TV' to xxxx.com names is part of the current flow to make the effective difference between the 'old static' web and the web television. I see it just as a natural and a TEMPORARY phase, it isn't just a stopgap it is the best fertilizer to the logical progression and demonstrated blooming of the .TV extension. Be sure that at the end of the day a xxxxtv.com name will be seen as the weak alternative to a pure .TV name.
I understand your hesitation but I think first and foremost it is up to you to understand why you are domaining and to fix the strategy and appropriate objective(s) of your investment.

 

[boboski]

i've been buying more ..tv.com's lately. Until .tv is promoted more to the "masses" which i do not see really happening right now.

also it's like the mobi debate. why is .mobi needed now when the future of mobile devices will be able to show full websites?

I still believe in .tv, its just not in the "masses" psyche now.

 

[equity78]

Excellent point Jean-Francois you need to examine why you in the space.

Is it :

A) I came to .tv to find keyword domains I could never afford in .com and are taken in most major tld's.

B) Pure speculation that .tv will become "HOT" and there will be a strong demand to sell domains for big prices.

C) TO be a % of my overall domain strategy, with a balanced .tv portfolio for both development and resale.


Imo if one came to .tv for B that is a risky strategy and one needs to have great names at great prices (LOW PREMIUM RENEWAL)

A & C provide for a tv.com portion to compliment their strategy.

 

[jeffoverman]

i came to .tv for one thing only...video content and this will be the next wave of the future and web 2.0 is outdated....its just like social blogs-i feel the next wave will be like justin.tv..

i own both, keyword tv.com and .tv...i dont view this as a negative one bit..if anything only positives and people want video and tv on the web.

.com will always be king....ray brought up good questions for everyone to ask themselves....i missed the .com wave while I was attending college and i feel .tv values will only go up from here.....the more promotion, awareness and user base that .tv carries the more better it is for all of us. things dont occure overnight but look at .com it took some time to form. i am an investor in .tv and still hold a lot of names even after recent sales for a loss and trimming my portfolio down.

good luck everyone!

 

[SKG]

Here is some food for thought. The objective here is to have consumer search behavior to slowly change. For example, instead of entering into a google search bar "cars" they start to enter " cars tv." Folks if this starts to happen then it will be a great day for .TV and here is why: One of my sites Reserve.tv, if you enter reserve in google search, guess what? I am so deep that it would take an oil expedition rig to snake to find me. However, if you search "reserve tv" then there I am on page one. So tv.com is good news for us, it has the potential to change search behavior and as a result help .tv

It is already happening but with very strong tv related keywords and here is some wordtracker data:

Online tv searched 4882 per day
Adult tv searched 2331 per day
Internet tv searched 2303 per day
Food tv searched 2292 per day
Free tv searched 2152 per day

And so on.....

Bottom line is interesting content, good development, ingenuity, etc creates success. Owning a generic in .tv gives you branding power, it does not take away the work. Hard work will bring fruits. Hulls this is not an ext war as you have posted. There is no war.

 

[NWDomains]

Mike IMO tv.com is not bad news for .tv
it is actually good news as it represents more use of the "tv" concept on the internet and that helps everyone.

From a branding standpoint, I think tv.com does not look as good or as sexy as .tv
However, for type in traffic and defensive regging, tv.com is good.
Plus I thik the general population is still confused on domain names, the average person does not even understand that there are other extensions besides .com

I agree with you tv.com does not look as good as .tv.

I just want to add that the market outside the US very well knows that there are plenty other extensions. The EU alone is a larger market than the US and the rest of the world can identify with it as well. They all have and use their own extensions and .tv is the one they all will be able to use for the same purpose.

 

[equity78]

Excellent point Sanchay, one of the best made in a long time IMO. I have domains nowhere in Google/Yahoo with keyword, Keyword TV first page sometime #1.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

I agree with you tv.com does not look as good as .tv.

I just want to add that the market outside the US very well knows that there are plenty other extensions. The EU alone is a larger market than the US and the rest of the world can identify with it as well. They all have and use their own extensions and .tv is the one they all will be able to use for the same purpose.

I think your right on that, they seem to be more aware in EU of other extensions then the US market.

Here is some food for thought. The objective here is to have consumer search behavior to slowly change. For example, instead of entering into a google search bar "cars" they start to enter " cars tv." Folks if this starts to happen then it will be a great day for .TV and here is why: One of my sites Reserve.tv, if you enter reserve in google search, guess what? I am so deep that it would take an oil expedition rig to snake to find me. However, if you search "reserve tv" then there I am on page one. So tv.com is good news for us, it has the potential to change search behavior and as a result help .tv

Bottom line is interesting content, good development, ingenuity, etc creates success. Owning a generic in .tv gives you branding power, it does not take away the work. Hard work will bring fruits. Hulls this is not an ext war as you have posted. There is no war.

Yes your right SKG on the type in of keyword and tv.
It is a real phenomena.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i started this thread becouse i dont feel we have realy discussed this fully.
i do need to know what you guys think,i am please i started this thread becouse it has help me to have a better understanding on tv.com..

what happens to tv.com is very important to tv.....i think


i know i sway back and forth becouse am confused with it all.
there are some crazy tv.com names being regd ,why

any way thanks for your replys i dont mean to be a pain just needed to know
what your thinking on this was now....will not ask again......honest.lol