.tv .TV and Big Media

[ChicagoLife]

Do you think big media corporations like NBC or CBS should worry about the new age of .TV media?

 

[freedom30]

WORRY ABOUT THEM???

My good Chicagolife, they are going to be part and parcel of them!!! :imho: (of course).

Have a great weekend.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

ABC.tv

Do you think big media corporations like NBC or CBS should worry about the new age of .TV media?

ABC is ahead of the game: www.abc.tv


Frank :hi:

 

[ChicagoLife]

ABC is ahead of the game: www.abc.tv


Frank :hi:

The ABC.TV is not a .TV website it is forwards to .com it is only for safety. By forwarding .TV to .Com is saying I am not .TV just doesn’t want anybody to go there and see nothing but if I will forward it to .com I will get that traffic.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Future ABC

The ABC.TV is not a .TV website it is forwards to .com it is only for safety. By forwarding .TV to .Com is saying I am not .TV just doesn’t want anybody to go there and see nothing but if I will forward it to .com I will get that traffic.

IMHO, they are showing they are smart enough to know they should worry about .tv, otherwise they wouldn't care, wouldn't have regged, or redirected it. It is like having that "ace" in your back pocket. if they need it later, they can pull it out, and use it. I don't think they are saying "no", they are saying let's wait and see what the other's do. They bought insurance, or "safety", as you said. They are using it. They could have regged it, and not done anything with it.

Frank :hi:

 

[ChicagoLife]

IMHO, they are showing they are smart enough to know they should worry about .tv, otherwise they wouldn't care, wouldn't have regged, or redirected it. It is like having that "ace" in your back pocket. if they need it later, they can pull it out, and use it. I don't think they are saying "no", they are saying let's wait and see what the other's do. They bought insurance, or "safety", as you said. They are using it. They could have regged it, and not done anything with it.

Frank :hi:

I am sorry but let me rephrase I did not mean that they don’t know .TV, is that they are not threatened by .TV.

 

[WolfMother]

This is what i was trying to figure out in the other .TV post. It seems pretty important that the media companies are buying the names. In the grand scheme of things you can put whatever media onto whichever extension you want. The .TV is memorable because it is relevant to watching video. In this point a media company sees a reason to invest at least enough to pay the renewal price per year and have it for when a more expanded market is available for them to use it.

I don't want to persuade anyone from taking their ideas to a major media company, but it seems like they have a lot of their own agendas, and companies seem to traditionally buy out other ones if they are valuable to them.

Not to get off topic but is there a better way for .TV holders to connect with content providers? Say you need clips about safari adventures, or heavy metal music; other than youtube, metacafe, and TV streams, where can the developer look for individuals or companies supplying the content?

 

[ChicagoLife]

This is what i was trying to figure out in the other .TV post. It seems pretty important that the media companies are buying the names. In the grand scheme of things you can put whatever media onto whichever extension you want. The .TV is memorable because it is relevant to watching video. In this point a media company sees a reason to invest at least enough to pay the renewal price per year and have it for when a more expanded market is available for them to use it.

I don't want to persuade anyone from taking their ideas to a major media company, but it seems like they have a lot of their own agendas, and companies seem to traditionally buy out other ones if they are valuable to them.

Not to get off topic but is there a better way for .TV holders to connect with content providers? Say you need clips about safari adventures, or heavy metal music; other than youtube, metacafe, and TV streams, where can the developer look for individuals or companies supplying the content?

WolfMother I agree with you 100% but my point is the Big boys are major media and without there support and revenue it will be hard to get .TV out there fast and strong. And for now they don’t want to invest their time and money it to something they are not sure will work.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

I am sorry but let me rephrase I did not mean that they don’t know .TV, is that they are not threatened by .TV.

I agree. They don't have anything to be threatened by yet. Maybe in the future, but not now. Cool.


Frank

 

[jeffoverman]

I believe we are headed in the direction Chicago. All my indicators, branding, .tv sales growth, smaller media players, can't forget TNT.tv everyday in bottom right corner, and hopefully news.tv got bought by nbc.

Your dealing with the players. High up companies. If that's your niche and what your after go for it.

I guess what I am saying is word is getting out and the .tv extension.

As far as your angel and talking to corp and businesses you know a lot more then I do.

Don't forget the smaller media types, local Chicago businesses, vs going for that home run deal. Traffic and build on that then approach media I would say but this is your model and I don't want to tell you what to do. Just giving you my 2 cents. Me personally from things I am seeing were headed up just fine but I am in the sales side of things yet or everyday stuff like you are. I am sure you know what works and what isn't by now.

Good luck! Make us proud in 2008.

 

[smashfactory]

abc was at least smart enough to get the tv version of their name should they develop it in the future- some didnt yet, and boy are they gonna pay if they decide they want it when it is a must have!

 

[jeffoverman]

God. I must me tired lol.

I am not in the sales side of things as of yet I meant to say on .tv developments.

 

[TheBulldog]

Well, not really. Let's play the scenario game.

Let's say, for example, that NBC has decided NOT to register NBC.tv, or Heroes.tv, or Chuck.tv.......basically any of their major shows.

Do they really need to? With a few exceptions, like heroes which could be deved into a site about Heroic people, NBC could VERY easily step in and claim TM infringement on .tv names if the person that owned that domain was silly about it.

Let's say that NBC decided not to register NBC.tv. They don't care about paying some stupid premium, because they could very easily let someone register it, take them to court, take the name, let it drop, let someone register it again, and take it back in court again. They never have to worry about someone developing anything marketable on the site because it will spend a lot of time in litigation instead.

Or at least that is the scenario I believe has been discussed, your mileage may vary.

Basically, right now, regardless of a few strayers like tnt.tv, the big names are sitting idly by, repointing, or completely ignoring the tv extension.

They ARE, on the other hand, taking extremely huge strides in what they are developing for he online world. Take a look at Hulu.com, and understand that is one of the future products.

The next few months are EXTREMELY crucial. The WG strike could have drastic effects on what happens online, so we all need to watch that. Independants will be stepping up and offering original content, so watch that as well. I will blather on, so ignore that as well.

Oh well, read on.

 

[smashfactory]

i thought you could not trademark an acronym?

found my answer:

13. Can I register an acronym of my company name as a trademark?

Companies with lengthy trade names will sometimes use the acronym of their trade name as their primary service mark: e.g. Columbia Broadcasting System, National Broadcasting System, and American Broadcasting System, use the acronyms CBS, NBC and ABC, respectively, as marks for the service of providing news and entertainment services over electronic media.

14. Can an acronym be registered as a trademark or service mark if the underlying phrase could not be?

Any acronym may be registered as a mark if it is used to sell goods or services. The registrability of an acronym is not limited by the meanings of the words that it abbreviates. Thus, an acronym for a phrase that is descriptive or that is a merely trade name can be registered as a mark when the acronym itself is a proper trademark even though the phrase itself would not be registrable. Sometimes, using an acronym is the only way to get a mark registered.

 

[equity78]

Why would any media company worry about an extension? I think they worry about alternative online media, I think they worry about new technologies they do not have a strong footing in. They are concerned where ad dollars are going.

Most have some .tv in their portfolio, some use them strongly and some send mixed messages.

Example Viacom, the third largest cable concern in the US.
www.nickelodeon.tv is a site used to be a portal for all their sites around the world, now when you click a company you do go to a cctld of that country.
Now Viacom.tv they do not even own the domain. The person who owns it looks to be an individual and is parking it. Now obviously Viacom does not care because they could UDRP the domain in a second. Now they do use www.mtv.tv for MTV Europe.

Discovery Communications #6 US Cable concern does not even own Discovery.tv it is owned by former NP member Australia (Adrian). They do not even own DiscoveryChannel.tv that is owned by someone in Venezuela since 2000 and the domain does not resolve currently.

Time Warner the #1 US Cable concern owns brands suchs as CNN,TBS,HBO,Cinemax,TNTand AOL.
Tbs.tv is an active site, TNT.tv is an active site,CNN.tv is used to go to CNN.com but keeps CNN.tv in the browser so the user does not see the redirect. HBO, Cinemax and AOL foolishly do not resolve. Obviously they get some traffic and Time Warner is just wasting it.

#2 Behind Time Warner is Disney
They own Disney.tv yet it redirects to Disney International, Espn.tv but redirects to espn.go.com like their other domains do. They own ABC.tv which redirects

CBS # 9 on the cable side owns properties like Showtime,TMC and FLIX they only own Showtime.tv and it does not resolve.

Comcast #10 uses CN8.tv which is both a channel on Comcast and their company TV site.

For those wanting a listing of the top 10 http://adage.com/datacenter/datapopup.php?article_id=120735

Now I am not sure why anyone would not expect these major companies to use the .com principally. It is not a knock at .tv they use the extension their customers know the best and that makes complete sense. But they are using them differently in certain niche plays and as stand alone for certain properties and then some are totally ignorant wasting traffic.

But IMO all this means nothing to me for my .tv domains. They are not my competition and I am not looking to sell my domains to them. Secondly approaching them is not about the extension it is about the business plan. CBS and NBC did not reject a .tv they rejected the business plan in front of them. They don't own Chicago or Chicagotv.com either and why would they ? They are focused on their business plan, is everyone here ?

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Do you think big media corporations like NBC or CBS should worry about the new age of .TV media?

No more than they need worry about the Internet.

 

[Makis.TV]

.tv is not about the established Big Media but for the ones to follow and take the lead from them

 

[ChicagoLife]

.tv is not about the established Big Media but for the ones to follow and take the lead from them

on!SPOT
I understand you want to believe that but no .com or .TV will ever over take big media. They were here before we were born and they will be here well after we died.

And if Big Media sees that they are loosing the war, then all they have to do is to flex their wallets and buy all the threat out. The have the money to do so.

 

[equity78]

The internet will be hear long after you are gone too and every major media company has interests in the Internet so I am really lost as to where this thread is going.

 

[ChicagoLife]

The internet will be hear long after you are gone too and every major media company has interests in the Internet so I am really lost as to where this thread is going.

equity78

Yes you are absolutely correct and that’s Y I am trying to figure out Y are users trying to say that big media is going to be out and internet and .TV will take over.