The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

I’m glad they’re doing the investigation - it was the right thing to do.

This however is disgusting. WTF is wrong with people? You don’t get immediate gratification and this is how you deal with it?
https://kvoa.com/news/local-news/20...ed-death-threats-over-kavanaugh-nomination-2/

Maybe senators should refrain from calling people EVIL and anyone who disagrees EVIL. Maybe democrats in the media and congress should stop asking for people to be harassed in public and at home.

This is about moral character and temperament, not politics. Nobody objected this way to Gorsuch because there was NOTHING questionable that turned up.

R's denied Garland a vote. They didn't attack his character, his family, his friend, his entire life.

If the Kavanaugh nomination is withdrawn or voted down, we’ll end up with some other conservative -minded judge. If they have a good character and they’re able to rule fairly according to the constitution, I’m OK with that.

And the evil harpies and low life scum will have ruined a good mans career with the thinnest of allegations and mob violence.

Normal, decent men don’t assault women because of what they’re wearing or drinking. Only POS rapists do that.

Real women don't falsely accuse men of being rapist.

 

[mr-x]

What's the point. You'll get that conservative judge anyway. The only question is who. It's not like Kav is the only possible candidate to fill the position.

And his reputation, honor, family, wife, daughters? They mean nothing? This is a conspiracy to destroy Kavanaugh. They will do the same to anyone who is nominated.

Surprising no-one, CB Ford's democrat lawyers are demanding the FBI investigation be open ended and extensive.
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1045783658726969344

The character assassination continues. How'd you like your friends / family seeing this garbage written about you?

 

[mr-x]

Didn't see anybody post that here but you.

Thanks JB Hall Monitor.

 

[Kate]

This is a conspiracy to destroy Kavanaugh.

Why him in particular then ?

They will do the same to anyone who is nominated.

Why not Gorsuch ?

The character assassination continues. How'd you like your friends / family seeing this garbage written about you?

And what about the garbage written about Ford and the other women ? Garbage written by people who don't know them and have no clue, and should stay silent, and just watch. Respect is a two-way street.

 

[enlytend]

“Judges should maintain the dignity of judicial office at all times, and avoid both impropriety and the appearance of impropriety in their professional and personal lives. They should aspire at all times to conduct that ensures the greatest possible public confidence in their independence, impartiality, integrity, and competence.”

American Bar Association - Code of Judicial Conduct
https://www.americanbar.org/content...cialethics/ABA_MCJC_approved.authcheckdam.pdf
Section 1.2

 

[mr-x]

Why him in particular then ?

It wouldn't matter who President Trump nominated.

“Saving the Supreme Court from Trump’s clutches has always involved a very complicated two-step: first, block Kavanaugh, then fight like hell to win back the Senate,” said Brian Fallon, a 2016 campaign adviser to Hillary Clinton who helped start a group called Demand Justice to fight conservative judicial nominations. “If Kavanaugh drops out, we’re halfway there. If Democrats are able to win back the Senate, we’d have a path to blocking Trump from picking any of the archconservatives on his shortlist.”

Why not Gorsuch ?

Gorsuch was nominated by Obama. Am I misunderstanding your question?

And what about the garbage written about Ford and the other women ? Garbage written by people who don't know them and have no clue, and should stay silent, and just watch. Respect is a two-way street.

I haven't written anything about Ford except that I think she is a liar. Initially, the story was so thin and well crafted I thought she made it up. Now I think something happened to her and she's using the experience to falsely accuse Brett Kavanaugh.

When the democrats and "demand justice" were looking for someone, she answered and they crafted the story. Hence the polygraph and no-mention of Brett Kavanaugh by name until 2018.

Ford will be a feminist hero and millionaire for her trouble. Gofundme setup to fleece supporters is already over 500K.

 

[SirDrago]

“Judges should maintain the dignity of judicial office at all times, and avoid both impropriety and the appearance of impropriety in their professional and personal lives. They should aspire at all times to conduct that ensures the greatest possible public confidence in their independence, impartiality, integrity, and competence.”

American Bar Association - Code of Judicial Conduct
https://www.americanbar.org/content...cialethics/ABA_MCJC_approved.authcheckdam.pdf
Section 1.2

Quote: from Dr Ford,
"I was not made aware of the offer made by the party to fly to California, if I did I would have gladly hosted you"

Difi hired the lawyer weeks prior to her private meeting with judge K and said nothing.

My question to you is..
Why?

The answer is obvious, to cause a political circus at the price of a lamb.

 

[mr-x]

Quote: from Dr Ford,
"I was not made aware of the offer made by the party to fly to California, if I did I would have gladly hosted you"

Difi hired the lawyer weeks prior to her private meeting with judge K and said nothing.

My question to you is..
Why?

The answer is obvious, to cause a political circus at the price of a lamb.

Wasting your time. Accusations about Kavanuagh "feel" true.

 

[Kate]

Gorsuch was nominated by Obama.

Really ?

I haven't written anything about Ford except that I think she is a liar. Initially, the story was so thin and well crafted I thought she made it up. Now I think something happened to her and she's using the experience to falsely accuse Brett Kavanaugh.

In other words, you still think she is liar. I still fail to see how she benefits in all of this.
But it's no longer one isolated woman against a federal judge, now it is four. One more good reason to listen and investigate. Even though I am unsure what the FBI can investigate in one week.

Even 45 deemed her a credible person. Not that it means much, since he is a habit of saying one thing and then the exact opposite a few hours later.

 

[SirDrago]

Really ?

In other words, you still think she is liar. I still fail to see how she benefits in all of this.
But it's no longer one isolated woman against a federal judge, now it is four. One more good reason to listen and investigate. Even though I am unsure what the FBI can investigate in one week.

Even 45 deemed her a credible person. Not that it means much, since he is a habit of saying one thing and then the exact opposite a few hours later.

@Kate
Plz allow me to ask you a direct question since none prior have been answered.

Do you believe a single Democrat will vote for judge k if the F.B.I finds him squeaky clean?

 

[SirDrago]

Accuser #3 (Rameriez) admits attending 10 TEN! High school parties when she attended college where people lined up for gang rapes.

 

[Kate]

@Kate
Plz allow me to ask you a direct question since none prior have been answered.

Do you believe a single Democrat will vote for judge k if the F.B.I finds him squeaky clean?

I don't know, I don't have an answer to every question. Believe it or not, I don't really have a firm opinion on who is telling the truth. Let the FBI sort this out. Everyone has the right not to have an opinion, that is often the best attitude to have.

I don't care about what the Democrats will do. 45 will nominate one Scotus judge. The only question is who and when. Everyone (?) wants someone who is qualified for the job and beyond suspicion. Why rush the whole thing.

But after seeing Kav losing composure, it's not just Democrats who will now have second thoughts about nominating him. I know, it's easy to say he should have remained calm, especially if the accusations against him turn out to be untrue, but he is not an ordinary citizen, he is a judge slated for the top court. Judges always have to remind witnesses, defendants to behave in court. Not to let emotion in the way of justice. He failed that test, and that's why his performance hangs in the balance of the nomination.

 

[GILSAN]

Quote: from Dr Ford,
"I was not made aware of the offer made by the party to fly to California, if I did I would have gladly hosted you"

Difi hired the lawyer weeks prior to her private meeting with judge K and said nothing.

My question to you is..
Why?

The answer is obvious, to cause a political circus at the price of a lamb.

The offer to interview her in California was all over the internet and the Media... well at least the Media I prefer to read. Perhaps the Lame Stream Media didn't mention it.

Also, that offer was mentioned several times in this thread, EVERYONE knew about it, so the obvious conclusion is that she's a BLOODY LIBERAL LIAR... just like the rest of the DemonRATS.

This Circus was all pre-planned and by this time next week after the FBI investigation and thanks to another delay, porn lawyer Avenatti and other Liberal Slimebags will invent another handful of women with more BS accusations.

 

[enlytend]

Re #3 - So?
Doesn’t change what she saw. Especially if there are other credible witnesses.
Lots of things go on at parties in that age group - other kids are reluctant to narc.

I believe some of the questions you had about Dr. Ford were addressed in the hearing. Why don’t you find a transcript?

Even 45 found Dr. Ford to be a credible witness, as Kate pointed out.

At this point I don’t know if any democrats would still vote for him. I don’t know if all republicans will vote for him. Several Dems voted for Gorsuch, possibly a few red state Dems would, if the investigation turns up nothing. However his lack of judicial demeanor (see my previous post) is bound to influence decisions.

This is a big job interview. Everything you do on a job interview matters. Being belligerent and rude to the interviewer is usually a deal breaker.

 

[mr-x]

Really ?

Sorry, still early on the west coast.

Left wasn't organized for Gorsuch. Gorsuch confirmed Roe vs Wade as "settled" law and three democrats supported him.

Plenty of evidence for my previous post, starting with Brian Fallon's own words. Democrats aren't just hurting BK and the R's, this is a new low for America.

In other words, you still think she is liar.

The evidence says she is lying. She lied under oath at the hearing, when she claimed the need for delay was because she was afraid to fly.

Not only was she NOT IN CALIFORNIA, she's fly's REGULARLY.

She didn't write down BK's name for the polygraph. Not in her therapist's notes. No proof she mentioned his name until 2018.

I still fail to see how she benefits in all of this.
But it's no longer one isolated woman against a federal judge, now it is four. One more good reason to listen and investigate. Even though I am unsure what the FBI can investigate in one week.

You don't want to believe she's lying. If you want to be taken you seriously, you have to drop the "four" women. All of them are less credible than Ford's claims.

Even 45 deemed her a credible person. Not that it means much, since he is a habit of saying one thing and then the exact opposite a few hours later.

Sure he wasn't lying for political reasons?

 

[mr-x]

She wasn't in Californian. She's been in Delaware so she also lied about being happy to host the investigators.

So she lied at least twice under oath. EVERY WITNESS SHE NAMED SAID SHE WAS WRONG.

Wast of time responding to you.

I believe some of the questions you had about Dr. Ford were addressed in the hearing. Why don’t you find a transcript?

.... :emotions: ...

 

[mr-x]

The only question is who and when. Everyone (?) wants someone who is qualified for the job and beyond suspicion. Why rush the whole thing.

1) If BK isn't confirmed by Nov, he can't sit on the court until the following year.

2) The only suspicion cast on BK is from lying democrats.

But after seeing Kav losing composure, it's not just Democrats who will now have second thoughts about nominating him. I know, it's easy to say he should have remained calm, especially if the accusations against him turn out to be untrue, but he is not an ordinary citizen, he is a judge slated for the top court. Judges always have to remind witnesses, defendants to behave in court. Not to let emotion in the way of justice. He failed that test, and that's why his performance hangs in the balance of the nomination.

Kav's righteous anger saved his appointment. I guess if someone called you a sexual deviant, incited a mob to threaten you, your family, all of your friends who dared support you, slandered your good reputation for being honest, fair and an advocate for women, you'd be like.. Meh. No biggie.

Hard to believe you.

 

[SirDrago]

Re #3 - So?

Are you serious?
What kind of morals does this woman have?
How many times did she call the cops after witnessing gang rapes on TEN different occasions? ZERO times.

That wasn't a "Job interview" it was a public crucifixion of yet another innocent man for the control power.

 

[mr-x]

Are you serious?
What kind of morals does this woman have?
How many times did she call the cops after witnessing gang rapes on TEN different occasions? ZERO times.

That wasn't a "Job interview" it was a public crucifixion of yet another innocent man for the control power.

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[mr-x]

Brett Kavanaugh didn’t attack you.
Jeff Flake didn’t attack you.
Members of Congress are not calling you a liar.

Just because you didn’t report your attack for years, doesn’t mean that everyone who reports an attack should automatically be believed.


Women: Stop Projecting Your Sexual Assault Experiences Onto Every.Damn.Person
https://www.redstate.com/?p=545150