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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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  • Both Parties

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    45.6%
  • Neither Party

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    8.7%
  • Democrats

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    22.4%
  • Republicans

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    23.3%
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Here you can spout your USA political views.

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2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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But maybe what Americans should be doing is address the root cause of violence.
It's only in America that there are so many shootouts and that children do shooting drills, and now they push the insanity to arming teachers, and they have the nerve to call other countries sh!tholes. In other countries schools don't look like prisons or airports, with metal detectors and armed guards standing by. A reminder to pupils that their country is a prison state and has more inmates than any other nation on Earth.

The American expats that I meet often tell me about their children and how they want them to grow in a safe and sound environment. I am not anti-guns, in fact some countries have high rates of gun ownership, for example in Europe you have Switzerland or the Czech Republic where the laws are more relaxed. Yet incidents are rare, because people behave responsibly and the social problems are not as exacerbated as in the US. American society compared to other countries is rough and more violent, human life is cheap too (it's the only Western country that still upholds the death penalty), and violence breeds more violence.
Put it differently, you reap what you sow.
What you consider the new normal is not normal.

I can describe the causes but not how to fix them. In short, our nation needs to stop glamorizing murder and violence. Dominant liberal culture mocks religion and traditional morals, including family and personal responsibility.

Identity politics encourages people to see themselves as victims rather than participants.
 
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One of the best and worse moments in life is realizing your children have become better parents than yourself.
 
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Sadly in this day, there is no such thing as having a conversation with the left! It's mostly, yelling, rhetoric, name-calling, deflection, propaganda and deep hatred for a counter point!

LMAO - Look. Whoโ€™s. Talking!!!

Hereโ€™s a challege for this thread - anyone up to try this for a week?

  • No name calling
  • No ad hominem or poisoned well arguments.
  • No memes
  • No generalizations about groups of people
  • No deflection
  • No โ€œwhataboutismโ€
  • If you make a statement, back it up
  • Speak to each other respectfully.

Interesting about the semi, but that was hardly standard issue or something a citizen would have lying around the house.

Btw, I totally agree about not glorifying the shooters - overall It seems the press has gotten a lot better about that, spending more time and page space focusing on the victims now (in the earlier shootings all the coverage was about the shooter, virtually no mention of the victims) -but thereโ€™s still room for improvement.
 
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LMAO - Look. Whoโ€™s. Talking!!!

Do you have any examples for me, or are you just making my point with your smug remark?

I also thought you were a self-described centrist? Lol? which is why I find it ironic that you would take offense to my comment?
 
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Ditto, but some here appear to have classified me in as a virtual Bernie groupie.
Up for my challenge or not? In 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - .....
 
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It would work because it falls under your "but everything we do to make it more difficult"

Perhaps,but it also opens up new issues:
  • By definition, having guns in the classroom increases the odds of gun related accidents. (You canโ€™t have a gun related acccident without a gun, right?) This is for me the biggest drawback.
  • Who pays for the insurance and who is liable in the event of an accident? And by accident I mean anything from accidental discharge of a weapon to student being hit in crossfire.
  • Would the teachers be carrying at all times or would the gun be locked in a safe place?
  • Locking it in a safe place reduces accident risk, but would they be able to get to it in time in a real situation?
  • Carrying at all times - they would be able to respond quickly in a crisis, but doesnโ€™t that also pose the scenario of a student /students overpowering the teacher and taking the weapon? Assume that sudents will eventually figure out whoโ€™s carrying.
  • Standards for maintaining training and determining fitness to carry in the school? If I were one of the parents Iโ€™d want to have reasonable assurances that the teacher isnโ€™t just good at hitting targets and basic weapon safety, but that they can keep a cool head in a crisis and not panic and shoot the wrong kid. Psychological fitness for the task and ability of a teacher to potentially be put in a position where theyโ€™re expected to shoot one of their own students?

PS -excerpt from DC vs Heller (Syllabus):

2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Courtโ€™s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Millerโ€™s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those โ€œin common use at the timeโ€ finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.
Full discussion in section III of the majority opinion (Scalia) https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
 
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Why would I believe the left only wants sensible gun controls? THERE IS NOTHING SENSIBLE OF THE LEFT. THEY"VE LOST THEIR MINDS

As has been pointed out, the measures being proposed are favored by the majority.

From the measures being proposed or the ones enacted in Florida by Rick Scott, specifically tell me which one would remove a gun from your law-abiding hands?

As far as Stormy Daniels on 60 Minutes tonight at 7PM, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't think anything big or we don't know already is going to come out. He had sex with her and others while married. This is well known. Unless there is an actual sex tape, which I don't think there is.
 
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It wouldn't be hard to have one or two teachers at each school that are retired police officers. The encourage vets to be teachers is long standing. I can hit all your points but I am not going to let this thread rule my day. I think the way I post in here shows that
 
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"Rick Santorum actually said on CNN that students should be learning about how to perform CPR as an alternative to pushing for gun control, gun safety and human lives."


What about stop, drop and roll? That's good for putting out fires, maybe that will work for dodging bullets?
 
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It would probably be:

Your better off spending your time learning CPR instead of Marching and protesting as the odds of you needing to use CPR in some way is much higher than the odds of your school being in an assault rifle school shooting.
 
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It wouldn't be hard to have one or two teachers at each school that are retired police officers. The encourage vets to be teachers is long standing. I can hit all your points but I am not going to let this thread rule my day. I think the way I post in here shows that

As long as their training is kept current, I donโ€™t have a problem with retired police /military from a qualification standpoint. It does still by definition increase potential for accidents (though less risk with that level of expertise.)

The only thing I find interesting about the stormy issue is the lengths he is going to to keep her quiet. If itโ€™s just a consensual affair, why? It makes no sense to me. Maybe there was misuse of campaign funds in paying her off, but that should be able to be ascertained independently from whatever she might have to say.

Santorum is still an idiot - nice to see some things never change. CPR is a good thing to know, but wonโ€™t save a gunshot victim. If anything, it will make them bleed out faster. Schools should include it along with basic first aid in health /phys ed curriculum.

Standing up and speaking out for what you believe in is a good hands on experience of 1A.
 
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Since stormy brought up again

Fav headline of day

Trump, first lady will be 1,000 miles apart when Stormy Daniels appears on โ€˜60 Minutesโ€™

washington post
 
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Ahh... that mythical 97% majority you and vox are so fond of.

As has been pointed out, the measures being proposed are favored by the majority.

From the measures being proposed or the ones enacted in Florida by Rick Scott, specifically tell me which one would remove a gun from your law-abiding hands?

As far as Stormy Daniels on 60 Minutes tonight at 7PM, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't think anything big or we don't know already is going to come out. He had sex with her and others while married. This is well known. Unless there is an actual sex tape, which I don't think there is.
 
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Ahh... that mythical 97% majority you and vox are so fond of.

You completely dodged the question, it's a very simple one:

From the measures being proposed or the ones enacted in Florida by Rick Scott, specifically tell me which one would remove a gun from your law-abiding hands?

That's the common cry from the right, they're coming after our guns, they're going to take our guns away.........blah, blah, blah. When all it is are common sense gun measures that the majority of Americans and lots of NRA members support.

So let's get very specific. Which measure will take your gun away? Mr-x's gun, which one?
 
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Only 94%. Wow. You read that on the Internet so it must be true eh?


And no, those polls aren't mythical. You want to believe that because your views are in the minority. Just like I said earlier, feel free to do your own search, there are many polls on this:

Here are 6 different polls ranging from 84% - 94%:

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...americans-support-background-checks-all-gun-/

Again, most Americans favor Universal Background Checks, you don't:

https://www.google.com/search?clien...0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.DcifLM9PzGw
 
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Only 94%. Wow. You read that on the Internet so it must be true eh?

I was actually going to post the same one enlytend just posted. Yes, 94% is majority. It is true, your post just makes you look silly. And what you like, you edited it an hour after. You can't find your way out of the fact that the majority of Americans support Universal Background Checks.

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12 more minutes till 60 Minutes

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