The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[TheEnd]

Jeremy Corbyn suggests Queen should say sorry if estate involved in offshore tax investment

 

[GILSAN]

 

[TheEnd]

Those luxury underground bunkers must be looking cozy...

I guess most self-interested people wont care, as they would do exactly the same thing if in their position:

Self-interest generally refers to a focus on the needs or desires of the self. A number of philosophical, psychological, and economic theories examine the role of self-interest in motivating human action.

These people will be the sole survivors of impending catastrophes, already set-up for underground survival and many secret technologies that are never shown to the 'public'.

They'll be the ones to go on and conquer the galaxy > universe? God help life in the universe.

 

[JB Lions]

How many NRA members are convicted felons carrying guns? None.

This is bullsh*t politics.

Didn't address anything. Republicans are owned by the NRA. When they spend money, it's for Republicans, against the Democrats. They (Republicans) lack political courage/backbone to do what the majority of Americans want. Trump is just another NRA puppet. They say jump, Trump says how high. Weak. Again, address the 2 points I brought up, are you for or against them?

 

[.X.]

I have been a NRA member for over 20 years, Why didn't Obama implement harsh gun control? Because he knew he couldn't win, Nor do i believe he really had a genuine interest in gun control.

Again, JB, There is not a gun that will seek out and fire on a person or anything else, It takes a human being to fire a gun, the same with a car, It wont drive itself into a crowd of innocent people, A human being has to drive and guide it.

Mud slinging by Liberals as usual. nothing new, Liberals use tragedies, combined with rhetoric to try and justify their points.

 

[mr-x]

Yeah.. and the democrats are owned by Soros and Steyer.. and the Koch brothers cook and eat little children.

Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating what your told.

Didn't address anything. Republicans are owned by the NRA. When they spend money, it's for Republicans, against the Democrats. They (Republicans) lack political courage/backbone to do what the majority of Americans want. Trump is just another NRA puppet. They say jump, Trump says how high. Weak. Again, address the 2 points I brought up, are you for or against them?

 

[mr-x]

Why Did the Media Deliberately Misreport Donald Trump’s Speech to Japanese Businessmen?
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...rt-donald-trumps-speech-japanese-businessmen/

Hint: They're liars. TL;DR


"But I must say, Toyota and Mazda — where are you? Are you here, anybody? Toyota? Mazda? I thought so. Oh, I thought that was you. That’s big stuff. Congratulations. Come on, let me shake your hand. (Applause.) They’re going to invest $1.6 billion in building a new manufacturing plant, which will create as many as 4,000 new jobs in the United States. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. (Applause.)"

The only way you can take from that statement that Trump is unaware of the investment the Japanese auto industry has made in the United States is to by simply lying about it.

 

[mr-x]

I have been a NRA member for over 20 years, Why didn't Obama implement harsh gun control? Because he knew he couldn't win, Nor do i believe he really had a genuine interest in gun control.

Again, JB, There is not a gun that will seek out and fire on a person or anything else, It takes a human being to fire a gun, the same with a car, It wont drive itself into a crowd of innocent people, A human being has to drive and guide it.

Mud slinging by Liberals as usual. nothing new, Liberals use tragedies, combined with rhetoric to try and justify their points.

Man who stopped church shooter was an NRA instructor.

 

[JB Lions]

I have been a NRA member for over 20 years, Why didn't Obama implement harsh gun control? Because he knew he couldn't win, Nor do i believe he really had a genuine interest in gun control.

Again, JB, There is not a gun that will seek out and fire on a person or anything else, It takes a human being to fire a gun, the same with a car, It wont drive itself into a crowd of innocent people, A human being has to drive and guide it.

Mud slinging by Liberals as usual. nothing new, Liberals use tragedies, combined with rhetoric to try and justify their points.

Again, didn't touch 2 points I brought up, if you agree or disagree with them. And who said he wanted harsh gun control? You're just repeating propaganda from the NRA. And it's hard to get things thru because again, the Republicans lack backbone, so it's hard to get anything done.

 

[JB Lions]

Yeah.. and the democrats are owned by Soros and Steyer.. and the Koch brothers cook and eat little children.

Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating what your told.

Mr. Dodge.

For the x's, very simple:

Bump stocks should they be illegal?

Do you think we should fix the system so people who aren't supposed to buy guns, can't? There was a failure here with this latest mass shooting.

These are 2 simple questions, give me your own opinion on them. Don't want to hear Antifa, or liberal blah blah, or Soros blah blah, or you repeating some NRA marketing or trying to change the subject to cars going into crowds. It's just typical dodging and trying to change the subject.

I'm talking about mass shootings, the 2 that happened in the last 5 weeks. And 2 very specific questions.

 

[mr-x]

He we go, the fake virtue signalling.

WTF does this have to do with the NRA "owning" the GOP. Let's hear some actual solutions instead of complaining to make yourself feel superior.

Mr. Dodge.

For the x's, very simple:

Bump stocks should they be illegal?

Do you think we should fix the system so people who aren't supposed to buy guns, can't? There was a failure here with this latest mass shooting.

These are 2 simple questions, give me your own opinion on them. Don't want to hear Antifa, or liberal blah blah, or Soros blah blah, or you repeating some NRA marketing or trying to change the subject to cars going into crowds. It's just typical dodging and trying to change the subject.

I'm talking about mass shootings, the 2 that happened in the last 5 weeks. And 2 very specific questions.

 

[JB Lions]

He we go, the fake virtue signalling.

WTF does this have to do with the NRA "owning" the GOP. Let's hear some actual solutions instead of complaining to make yourself feel superior.

See, what is wrong with you? I ask 2 questions and you dodge again. What is signal calling?

Bumpstocks, should they be illegal or not? You don't know? You don't have an opinion on it? Do you need to consult somebody first to tell you what your opinion should be? The NRA? Some right wing blog?

You're a grown man. It's a basic question. Watch how easy this is.....Yes, they should be illegal. Fully automatics are illegal, this is just a way to get around that.

I think if you and I walked outside and it was overcast and drops of water were pouring down on us, I would say it's raining and you would argue with that just to be disagreeable. It's ok to agree on stuff. A lot of Republicans have already said they should be illegal, if that helps you with your opinion, since you can't seem to have one on your own.

 

[GILSAN]

 

[.X.]

Mr. Dodge.

For the x's, very simple:

Bump stocks should they be illegal?

Do you think we should fix the system so people who aren't supposed to buy guns, can't? There was a failure here with this latest mass shooting.

These are 2 simple questions, give me your own opinion on them. Don't want to hear Antifa, or liberal blah blah, or Soros blah blah, or you repeating some NRA marketing or trying to change the subject to cars going into crowds. It's just typical dodging and trying to change the subject.

I'm talking about mass shootings, the 2 that happened in the last 5 weeks. And 2 very specific questions.

Yes, we should make sure that when a person attempts to purchase a firearm, They are checked by the FBI, but that is already under law and being done.

The failure in the Texas church shooting, The shooters criminal background was not disclosed by the US government - US Air force, My understanding is, This is under investigation as told by the media.

Take the Las Vegas shooter, He had no criminal record, He filled out the FBI required paper work, Submitted his legal drivers license. everything to , he had no criminal record, was not under an investigation and ect, So he acquired his firearms legally, My point, The man had NO criminal record, Not under investigation, no nothing. what more could have been done to establish that this man could, or could not purchase a firearm???

Criminals will always get fire arms, the black market meets their demands easily.

 

[JB Lions]

Yes, we should make sure that when a person attempts to purchase a firearm, They are checked by the FBI, but that is already under law and being done.

The failure in the Texas church shooting, The shooters criminal background was not disclosed by the US government - US Air force, My understanding is, This is under investigation as told by the media.

Take the Las Vegas shooter, He had no criminal record, He filled out the FBI required paper work, Submitted his legal drivers license. everything to , he had no criminal record, was not under an investigation and ect, So he acquired his fire arms legally, My point, The man had NO criminal record, Not under investigation, no nothing. what more could have been done to establish that this man could, or could not purchase a fire arm???

Criminals will always get fire arms, the black market meets their demands easily.

For the Texas incident, I think we agree on. It needs to be looked at, see where the failure was at and fix it.

For the Las Vegas incident, you skipped the part of bump stocks. He still would have killed a lot of people but being able to use a bump stock, he killed more. If even a few lives could have been saved because of common sense laws, then that should happen. What are your thoughts on bump stocks?

Here is some latest news on that:
Massachusetts Becomes 1st State To Ban Bump Stocks After Las Vegas Massacre
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...e-to-ban-bump-stocks-after-las-vegas-massacre

Senate panel to hold hearing on bump stocks
"Authorities have said a dozen of the rifles used by the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, had been modified with bump stocks."
"Democrats, and some Republicans, have backed legislation to ban bump stocks. Though fully automatic weapons are banned, bump stocks are legal."
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/359049-senate-panel-to-hold-hearings-on-bump-stocks

 

[.X.]

For the Texas incident, I think we agree on. It needs to be looked at, see where the failure was at and fix it.

For the Las Vegas incident, you skipped the part of bump stocks. He still would have killed a lot of people but being able to use a bump stock, he killed more. If even a few lives could have been saved because of common sense laws, then that should happen. What are your thoughts on bump stocks?

I personally would have no problem at all if Bump Stocks were outlawed, Outlaw the Bump Stock! LOL

Just say NO to Bump Stocks! lol

In all seriousness though, Have you ever fired an assault rifle with a bump stock , JB? They fire real shitty with a bump stock, Uncontrollably shitty IMO

 

[JB Lions]

I personally would have no problem at all if Bump Stocks were outlawed, Outlaw the Bump Stock! LOL

Just say NO to Bump Stocks! lol

In all seriousness though, Have you ever fired an assault rifle with a bump stock , JB? They fire real sh*tty with a bump stock, Uncontrollably sh*tty IMO

When you're firing into a crowd, like the one in Las Vegas, you don't need to be accurate, they're going to hit somebody. Hence the greatest mass shooting in U.S. history, helped along by the use of bump stocks.

 

[johname]

All bumpstocks are is essentially putting a spring between you and the gun. So bad guy gets home made bump stock.

Take away every gun on planet, then we get bad guy bombers instead of shooters

 

[.X.]

When you're firing into a crowd, like the one in Las Vegas, you don't need to be accurate, they're going to hit somebody. Hence the greatest mass shooting in U.S. history, helped along by the use of bump stocks.

Ok, i am with ya, Ban the Bump Stock.

with almost 11 minutes of steady continuous gun fire taking place in the Las Vegas shooting, Bump Stock or no bump stock. I think the final out come would be near the same.

You would need to fire a assault rifle with, and with out a bump stock to understand how the bump stock works, It is not as the media projected it, that much i can tell you.

 

[JB Lions]

Ok, i am with ya, Ban the Bump Stock.

with almost 11 minutes of steady continuous gun fire taking place in the Las Vegas shooting, Bump Stock or no bump stock. I think the final out come would be near the same.

You would need to fire a assault rifle with, and with out a bump stock to understand how the bump stock works, It is not as the media projected it, that much i can tell you.

I posted video of it earlier in the thread. If fully automatics are banned, then something like this should be as well.


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