The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[iowadawg]

BREAKING: Trump Wins Electoral College Vote

 

[iowadawg]

A recently foiled coup plot in the small but geographically important Balkan nation of Montenegro underscores the lengths to which Russia will go to undermine democracy and exert its influence in the region

Now change Balkan Nation of Montenegro to SYRIA...
Now change Russia to USA....

 

[mr-x]

A recently foiled coup plot in the small but geographically important Balkan nation of Montenegro underscores the lengths to which Russia will go to undermine democracy and exert its influence in the region

Now change Balkan Nation of Montenegro to SYRIA...
Now change Russia to USA....

Why? I'm not making an argument for USA in Syria. Pointing out, relevant news Putin reportedly tried to overthrow a democratic country, trying to join NATO.

If you think one justifies the other, make that argument.

 

[enlytend]

He didn't make an argument Russians were not involved, he stated fact there is no proof. If you have *proof otherwise, then post it.

The report data is still classified. Unclassify them and hold a bipartisan investigation.

17 agencies (FFS you could have looked this up yourself):

• CIA
• FBI
• DHS
• DEA
• NSA
• Air Force Intelligence
• Army Intelligence
• Coast Guard Intelligence
• DIA
• Energy Department
• State Department
• Treasury Department
• Marine Corps Intelligence
• National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
• National Reconnaissance Office
• Navy Intelligence
• Office of the DNI

Instead of nit-picking whether it's 17 agencies or not address these questions I posed?

you unquestioningly agree with the noob PE who doesn't listen to security briefings when he says "nah I don't believe it?" Isn't it a little suspicious that as future leader of the country he doesn't seem the least bit concerned about this interference in our government, and isn't even interested in pursuing it and taking action if the evidence stands up? Why is that? What is HE afraid of?

FBI certainly wasn't helping the democrats.

 

[mr-x]

The reports are still classified. Unclassify them and have a bipartisan investigation.

OK. That doesn't make what he said speculative.

Going on CNN and lying about proof Russia helped Trump get elected is lying.

 

[enlytend]

Quoting data from an unnamed source doesn't make it a lie.

 

[mr-x]

The report data is still classified. Unclassify them and hold a bipartisan investigation.

17 agencies (FFS you could have looked this up yourself):

• CIA
• FBI
• DHS
• DEA
• NSA
• Air Force Intelligence
• Army Intelligence
• Coast Guard Intelligence
• DIA
• Energy Department
• State Department
• Treasury Department
• Marine Corps Intelligence
• National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
• National Reconnaissance Office
• Navy Intelligence
• Office of the DNI

Instead of nit-picking whether it's 17 agencies or not address these questions I posed?


FBI certainly wasn't helping the democrats.

You're simply repeating speculation leaked to the media from anonymous sources.

If Obama was so dam worried about Russians stealing the election for Trump, why didn't he do something.

I know if I was President and had proof the Russians stole the election from my Party.. I'd do something about it.

On the other hand... If had no real proof Putin did anything more then expose some truthful emails about what a corrupt asshole my candidate was.. I might make a big stink to weaken the winner.

 

[Domainace]

The 17 agencies assertion boiled down to one James Clapper. The same James clapper who lied (committed perjury, in fact) in the following exchange with the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence:

"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"
Director Clapper: "No, sir."
"It does not?"
Director Clapper: "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly."

These people are liars by trade. Until this year, the left used to understand that better than anyone. Now, in one fell swoop, a big chunk of the left has been seamlessly coopted into the war propaganda machine they once claimed to have opposed. It's mind-boggling. It's the equivalent of taking a civil rights organization and persuading them to become KKK supporters. I thought I was a bit cynical, but this is one of those most astounding things I have seen.

 

[mr-x]

http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/12/16/obama-to-putin-on-hacking-cut-it-out?videoId=370734843

Obama talked to Putin in October.. but OMG RUSSIANS ELECTED TRUMP in December.

 

[GILSAN]

http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/12/16/obama-to-putin-on-hacking-cut-it-out?videoId=370734843

Obama talked to Putin in October.. but OMG RUSSIANS ELECTED TRUMP in December.

The Russians built a secret tunnel under the Bering Strait and managed to send thousands across to vote for Trump in states where no Voter ID was needed.

 

[GILSAN]

Turkey shouldn't poke the bear...

 

[enlytend]

Obama was so dam worried about Russians stealing the election for Trump, why didn't he do something.

Because he's an effin' wuss.

We're all talking about something we haven't personally seen. I consider the CIA NSA and FBI as authoritative sources, you apparently do not, so we're both arguing from our respective viewpoints about what is essentially a black box.

Do you want to see the reports unclassified and the data investigated by a bi-partisan effort? If not, why not?

 

[N-A]

I consider the CIA NSA and FBI as authoritative sources

But only when it comes to not meddling in the election, such as reporting to Congress that they're reviewing new material in the case of Hillary Clinton, right?

 

[N-A]

That's Zamami, less than an hour by ferry from Naha Port. Was out there this past summer. Clear water, a bit of coral, sea turtles...Great deal, especially compared to hauling the kids to Thailand.

Yeah, did a reverse Google search on it and found which island it was. Google Maps didn't show a direct ferry route though; maybe they pulled that line. Sounds like a nice place... Now that I got some time off, I may go exploring the outer islands.

 

[N-A]

With electoral college vote, Trump's win is official

 

[GILSAN]

Bill Clinton blames ‘angry white men’ for Hillary’s loss on Election Day
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/1...-white-men-for-hillarys-loss-on-election-day/

What do American Liberals have against white men? And why do they refer to them as angry? Don't Mexican men ever get angry? How about Blacks, Asians and Muslim men... are they always happy?

So let me try to understand how a looney liberal thinks. As a white man I would need to get angry so I could vote for Trump.

What about the Blacks that voted for Obama... were they also angry? Since 95% of them voted for BO, does that mean they were extremely angry?

I guess that because Obama won, it meant the white men were happy, because if they were in an angry mood they would have obviously voted for McCain and Romney, resulting in both of them winning the Presidency. Do I have that right?

 

[Kate]

3-Three is false, vague and misleading. The CIA (irony alert) started the whole Ukraine crisis by interfering in their politics and installing a corrupt, fascist pro-USA government to replace the merely corrupt pro-Russia one.

Seriously ?

When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover,

Seriously ?

the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia's most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.

Seriously ?

even though, as in Kiev, the protests that spread from Crimea to eastern Ukraine evidently have mass support.

Seriously ?

But what had been a glorious cry for freedom in Kiev became infiltration and insatiable aggression in Sevastopol and Luhansk.

Seriously ?

After Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to join Russia,

Seriously ?

Seriously, but no.

 

[mr-x]

Because he's an effin' wuss.

We're all talking about something we haven't personally seen. I consider the CIA NSA and FBI as authoritative sources, you apparently do not, so we're both arguing from our respective viewpoints about what is essentially a black box.

Do you want to see the reports unclassified and the data investigated by a bi-partisan effort? If not, why not?

1st, your forming an opinion based on 2nd hand anonymous reports. Someone read an unclassified memo, then relayed the contents to a "journalist" aka, another democrat.

2nd, The election wasn't hacked. Emails from DNC and John Podesta, which NO ONE disputes are authentic, were made public. In the case of Podesta, it was a simple phish.

3rd, This is a gaslight op to delegitimize the new administration by the left. NBC, CBC CNN saying the election was hacked.. it was not.

If the UNCLASSIFIED memo claiming a "consensus" was real, it would have been published.

There is NOTHING stopping the Obama administration from making the details of Putin's efforts to influence our election public, except political advantage.

 

[mr-x]

Seriously ?

Seriously ?

Seriously ?

Seriously ?

Seriously ?

Seriously ?

Seriously, but no.

Two reasons Putin took Crimea & invaded Ukraine.

1) Obama is weak

2) He could.

If Putin had his way, representative Gov would be a think of the past. Thanks Obama!

 

[mr-x]

Andrea Bocelli Backs Out Of Performing At Donald Trump’s Inauguration After Backlash

“Bocelli said there was no way he’d take the gig,” a source told Page Six. “He was ‘getting too much heat’ and he said no.”

I hate the left's arrogance, especially Hollywood and entertainers in general. But Donald Trump has made so many outlandish, hateful and dishonest attacks on people, he deserves the ridicule and ostracization.

Alec Baldwin and Donald Trump have a lot in common. Hollywood only hates DT b/c he doesn't identify as a democrat.