The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[enlytend]

If Hillary is President and is caught breaking the law again, you'll have a hard time finding a Democrat or even a journalist that will agree to impeach her.

Here's the thing:
She was not caught breaking any laws in the first place.
She has been subjected to more scrutiny than anyone in modern US politics and yet nobody has found her guilty of breaking any laws.
People should stop wasting taxpayer dollars on this nonsense.

 

[mr-x]

Here's the thing:
She was not caught breaking any laws in the first place.
She has been subjected to more scrutiny than anyone in modern US politics and yet nobody has found her guilty of breaking any laws.
People should stop wasting taxpayer dollars on this nonsense.

Your delusional. It's a felony to have confidential and secret information on a private server, run by people without security clearance. Hillary committed several felonies. Everyone of her top aids was given immunity.

Edit**
http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-directed-her-maid-to-print-out-classified-materials/

Among other things, Clinton requested that Santos print out drafts of her speeches, confidential memos and “call sheets” — background information and talking points prepared for the secretary of state in advance of a phone call with a foreign head of state.

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Marina SantosPhoto: Ron Sachs
“Pls ask Marina to print for me in am,” Clinton emailed top aide Huma Abedin regarding a redacted 2011 message marked sensitive but unclassified.

In a classified 2012 email dealing with the new president of Malawi, another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley, advised Clinton, “We can ask Marina to print this.”

“Revisions to the Iran points” was the subject line of a classified April 2012 email to Clinton from Hanley. In it, the text reads, “Marina is trying to print for you.”

Both classified emails were marked “confidential,” the tier below “secret” or “top secret.”

Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin

 

[mr-x]

You've said it yourself. The US is a militarized police state. You see the military and heavy weaponry even in small towns, this is crazy. Like a war zone. And the police shoot before asking questions. What kind of country is this ?

There is another way to look at this. If the UK equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency and environmentalist colluded to take land from a farmer b/c they thought the farmer wasn't protecting the native tortoise, there would be no recourse. By time the courts found a solution, you're cattle would have been destroyed, you business ruined and likely your home would be in foreclosure.

If the FBI or IRS decided your political views we're not acceptable, and persecuted you, what could you do?

If the Gov decided you could be legally liable for refusing to speak the proper pro-noun someone identified as, i.e. ze or one of the other 59 genders, what would you do?

If the courts are corrupt, what choices do you have?

In the USA, our #2A ensures our rights. * That is why I'm not voting for Hillary.

 

[mr-x]

Me right now.

 

[mr-x]

Why German Freedom Is Better:

German family faces COURT after child refuses to go to mosque, but Muslim kids exempt from other activities

German Children Seized From Parents for Crime of Homeschooling

German parents convicted after kids miss sex classes

 

[enlytend]

Your delusional. It's a felony to have confidential and secret information on a private server, run by people without security clearance. Hillary committed several felonies. Everyone of her top aids was given immunity.

Edit**
http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-directed-her-maid-to-print-out-classified-materials/

Debunked:

Confidential Emails Were Classified After The Fact And Originated From Clinton Aide.

Neither of the two classified emails referenced by the New York Post were sent by Clinton, and Clinton did not make any request for Santos to print either email. Both emails were classified years after the fact -- one in October 2015, and another in January 2016 -- at the lowest level of classification, “confidential.” The sole case the Post cited of Clinton asking for a message to be printed was not classified. [U.S. Department Of State, 10/30/15; 1/29/16]

Again, specifically what law was broken? Please cite it. None of the emails were classified at the time they were transmitted.

BTW, Name calling is counterproductive to an intelligent discussion and quite frankly smacks of desperation...

 

[GILSAN]

16 Celebrities Who Will Leave the U.S. if Trump Wins

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/08/celebrities-leaving-u-s-trump-wins/

I hope they keep their word, but being Liberals, I doubt it very much.

 

[AGermanGuy]

Trump says the same thing. We should let allies like Germany fend for themselves or pay more for their protection.

If Russia ever turns that natural gas off and you'll be looking for help from across the pacific... again.

Name one country... BTW, countries with speech laws, like Germany, UK, AU, CA don't have free speech.

Our freedoms may be in danger, you've never been free.

Armed militia have been VERY effective in stopping the federal Gov from seizing land from citizens in OR.

You have no idea what freedom is.

https://www.oathkeepers.org/about/

1. We do not want you here. I have said this multiple times now in this thread. We europeans do not want your army here. The4 combined militar<y strength of all EU members is more than Russias. We are more than capable of defending ourselves.
2. We have no speech laws. The hate speech laws you are referring to are about that you are not allowed to insult someone with your speech. For example, you can say "I hate all jews" but you cannot say "I want all jews to be exterminated". And this is good. I do not understand you guys and your love for the freedom of speech of Nazis. Also, as you can see, Nazis sill have freedom of speech. Hint: Look at the NPD, the german Nazi Party that is even in some german parliaments. Also, have you even looked at Reporters without Borders? It shows you that most western countries are more free. But facts are nothing for you, I know.
3. When? Some examples? From this century?

Also, explain how you will fight the government with rifles when it has tanks, drones, planes, etc.
EDIT: Since you won't look it up anyways: https://rsf.org/en/ranking

This is just press freedom. United States ranks 41th.

 

[mr-x]

Debunked:

By who? Media Matters? David Brock?

Again, specifically what law was broken? Please cite it. None of the emails were classified at the time they were transmitted.

Both classified and secret messages were emailed, kept on server by unauthorized company. Since you don't pay attention to the news or just don't care about the truth, this will be the last time I give you examples:


FBI: Hillary Clinton Broke the Law, We Just Don’t Really Care
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fbi-hillary-clinton-broke-the-law-we-just-dont-really-care/

Evidence Hillary Clinton Broke Federal Laws And Jeopardized National Security, No Charges Recommended... WTF, FBI?!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/d-c-rutledge/fbi-clinton-was-extremely_b_10818458.html

http://nypost.com/2015/09/27/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-the-law/


Former AG Mike Mukasey Discusses The Laws Clinton Possibly Broke:

"On the Clinton aide getting immunity, Mukasey said, "Given what else There is, not likely… Understand, There 16, 17, 1800 classified e-mails on a non-classified server. Somebody put them on there. And they didn't all start out that way. The notion that somehow they weren't marked when they were put on the server is a half-truth and one that's peculiarly designed to irritate anybody who knows the other half.""


http://www.dailywire.com/news/7177/fbi-yes-queen-hillary-broke-law-no-she-wont-be-ben-shapiro


https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=laws+hillary+broke&tbs=qdr:y

BTW, Name calling is counterproductive to an intelligent discussion and quite frankly smacks of desperation...

I apologize. Please don't make unfounded / easily disproved statements.

 

[N-A]

16 Celebrities Who Will Leave the U.S. if Trump Wins

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/08/celebrities-leaving-u-s-trump-wins/

I hope they keep their word, but being Liberals, I doubt it very much.

Can we kick Canadian-born Bieber out too? He's pulled too many shenanigans.

 

[mr-x]

1. We do not want you here. I have said this multiple times now in this thread. We europeans do not want your army here. The4 combined militar<y strength of all EU members is more than Russias. We are more than capable of defending ourselves.

Like I said, you and Donald Trump agree on this.

2. We have no speech laws. The hate speech laws you are referring to are about that you are not allowed to insult someone with your speech.

Which is it? No speech laws or speech laws that outlaw bad words and hurt feelings.

You either have free speech or you don't. You don't.

Also, have you even looked at Reporters without Borders? It shows you that most western countries are more free. But facts are nothing for you, I know.

Apparently, you don't know what facts are. Still waiting for you to state one.

3. When? Some examples? From this century?
Also, explain how you will fight the government with rifles when it has tanks, drones, planes, etc.
EDIT: Since you won't look it up anyways: https://rsf.org/en/ranking

This is just press freedom. United States ranks 41th.

I don't know what standards they use to measure freedom of the press. Don't really care to spend any more time trying to find out.

 

[N-A]

I find it funny that Clinton leaning MSM is now singing a different tune when, you know, actual votes are pouring in. Trying to get on somebody's good side, now?

 

[mr-x]

I find it funny that Clinton leaning MSM is now singing a different tune when, you know, actual votes are pouring in. Trying to get on somebody's good side, now?

details?

 

[JB Lions]

I find it funny that Clinton leaning MSM is now singing a different tune when, you know, actual votes are pouring in. Trying to get on somebody's good side, now?

What channel are you watching, also the rest of you guys, what channel? I'm watching CNN. Sometimes they like to play like Trump has a chance, just to keep the viewers on, ratings. Hillary just pulled ahead of Florida, still got the Dem leaning counties to report. Then it's over.

 

[mr-x]

This is just press freedom. United States ranks 41th.

Apparently, this is b/c we don't have a federal shield law for journalist and whistle blowers.

This is half correct. We have laws protecting whistle blowers. We don't have a federal law protecting journalist.

 

[mr-x]

Wow.. DC went Trump.

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Trump ... no Respect

 

[mr-x]

What channel are you watching, also the rest of you guys, what channel? I'm watching CNN. Sometimes they like to play like Trump has a chance, just to keep the viewers on, ratings. Hillary just pulled ahead of Florida, still got the Dem leaning counties to report. Then it's over.

Catching blurbs on fox between working and yelling at you guys.

 

[N-A]

details?

The only channel I get that is covering the results is CNNj(apan) which is generally a mashup of content from different CNN sites (Hong Kong, Tokyo, and USA). I don't know if it's the same feed now, but, the throughout entire campaign process they have been leaning towards Clinton, leaving out any negativity. All the while, they would be reporting anything they could get their hands on that was derogatory against Trump. For the past few hours, while there's nothing more to report other than the news (or counts), their banter is not left-wing anymore. Rather, it's more bipartisan; a shock to ever be on CNN.

Any good live feeds on the net?

 

[JB Lions]

If Hillary wins popular vote, that would make the Democrats winning 6/7 of the last Presidential Elections. So do the Republicans want to win that again? And if so, how? Knowing if you look at a Trump rally or the Republican National Convention, it's 95% white. Problem is America isn't 95% white. Trump probably set any ground they made with the Hispanic vote back.

So how to they get back? Or are they done?