The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[verbster]

As long as the Liberal MSM does NOT do any investigative reporting (like they love to do with the Republicans) Hillary will be fine.

After all, she has already had enough time to delete 30.000? e-mails.

Lets wait and see, but my gut feeling is nothing will happen to her.

The media has no choice but to investigate. Though you always blame the Liberal media, there are many Conservative media folks out there who will go through each and every word on every e-mail, just like the Liberals will have to do. Hopefully, they will balance each other out, and the truth will prevail.

Nothing will happen to her if nothing is found. If something is found that demonstrates she knowingly broke the law, she'll have to drop out of the race, and rightfully so (and face whatever legalities required by law). But the proof needs to be there. To make up suppositions where there isn't proof, just to damage her political career, is not right.

 

[GILSAN]

The media has no choice but to investigate. Though you always blame the Liberal media, there are many Conservative media folks out there who will go through each and every word on every e-mail, just like the Liberals will have to do. Hopefully, they will balance each other out, and the truth will prevail.

Nothing will happen to her if nothing is found. If something is found that demonstrates she knowingly broke the law, she'll have to drop out of the race, and rightfully so (and face whatever legalities required by law). But the proof needs to be there. To make up suppositions where there isn't proof, just to damage her political career, is not right.

She's been given enough time to have 30.000 e-mails erased. The Obama government and the Liberal media which represents over 80% of the media is NOT gonna move a straw to investigate. So the odds of her not getting implicated are very very high.

Just today I had a great laugh when listening to a CNN reporter asking some guy something like this: "If she is involved in some wrong doing involving these e-mails, why isn't she being investigated?"

If it had been some Republican doing the same as Hillary, you can bet CNN + NBC + CBS + MSNBC + NYT + WaPo etc etc would be using all their resources to investigate and would not stop till they could find something to destroy that person, even if it was something that happened 30-40 years ago.

It's more than obvious that the Liberal Media is doing nothing to investigate this case. After all they don't want their main candidate being dragged through the mud.

That's why Trump is constantly being belittled by the media, because he doesn't apologize to them and doesn't allow them to control him. The media is bewildered with Trump and his popularity and are trying everything to bring him down... by hook or by crook.

Anyone who kicks the Liberal Media's a$$ has my respect and a big thumbs up!!!

Wonder what Bill Clinton and Obama are planning at Martha's Vineyard, while playing some golf and waiting for Hillary to join them, this weekend?

 

[RogueWriter]

The upside for the democrats is that this email scandal may make her appear weak enough that someone new pops in to run. The Starbucks cel would be perfect for pushing the democrat entitlement agenda. Anyone who can get tens of millions of people to pay $6 for a cup of coffee can certainly cram some deficit spending through congress.

 

[verbster]

The upside for the democrats is that this email scandal may make her appear weak enough that someone new pops in to run. The Starbucks cel would be perfect for pushing the democrat entitlement agenda. Anyone who can get tens of millions of people to pay $6 for a cup of coffee can certainly cram some deficit spending through congress.

This is coming from a pro business, pro business owners deserve to get rich if they can Republican? Talk about double standards, not to mention double-speak. Going by your logic, rich-boy Trump should be able to run up the highest deficit spending of all time.

 

[JB Lions]

The problem with the "email scandal" besides no laws being broken is most people don't care. It's not an issue that affects Americans. It's just something the right are hoping will stick. Also, the election is 15 months away, it's not going to last that long. I would be more worried that Trump is leading in the polls. That's not somebody who is going to win a National Election. I hate to say it but I even like Romney better than everybody you have right now for the Republicans.

 

[GILSAN]

Beautiful Switzerland

 

[Kate]

Storing government correspondence on a private server is bad enough, but having nothing to show is even worse.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/12/the...the_media_has_conveniently_forgotten_partner/

Double standards maybe ?

 

[verbster]

She's been given enough time to have 30.000 e-mails erased. The Obama government and the Liberal media which represents over 80% of the media is NOT gonna move a straw to investigate. So the odds of her not getting implicated are very very high.

Just today I had a great laugh when listening to a CNN reporter asking some guy something like this: "If she is involved in some wrong doing involving these e-mails, why isn't she being investigated?"

If it had been some Republican doing the same as Hillary, you can bet CNN + NBC + CBS + MSNBC + NYT + WaPo etc etc would be using all their resources to investigate and would not stop till they could find something to destroy that person, even if it was something that happened 30-40 years ago.

It's more than obvious that the Liberal Media is doing nothing to investigate this case. After all they don't want their main candidate being dragged through the mud.

That's why Trump is constantly being belittled by the media, because he doesn't apologize to them and doesn't allow them to control him. The media is bewildered with Trump and his popularity and are trying everything to bring him down... by hook or by crook.

Anyone who kicks the Liberal Media's a$$ has my respect and a big thumbs up!!!

Wonder what Bill Clinton and Obama are planning at Martha's Vineyard, while playing some golf and waiting for Hillary to join them, this weekend?

Instead of using the media as an excuse, maybe you should consider why it's biased, and what that means. Why is it that conservatives own less media than liberals? Why is it there are fewer Conservative reporters? Why aren't there more Conservative conglomerate media owners? After all, knowing the influence the media has, wouldn't it be a sound strategy for Conservative billionaires to be more involved in buying and owning such a powerful tool? You can use the Liberal media as an excuse for anything that doesn't go your way, but there must be a good reason the news media is the way it is. Instead of complaining, why aren't the rich Conservatives pooling their money to buy TV stations and radio? Why aren't they able to not only obtain more media ownership, but have more audience? Conservatives complain how the Liberals have what it takes to influence voters, so why isn't it their priority to help their own cause?

Trump isn't being belittled; he's being criticized for stuff he does and says. Today, Mr. Vietnam draft-dodger called for American soldiers to fight in Iraq. He is proving himself to be as ignorant of history, foreign policy and reality as Sara Palin. What's not to criticize and enjoy it?

 

[RogueWriter]

This is coming from a pro business, pro business owners deserve to get rich if they can Republican? Talk about double standards, not to mention double-speak. Going by your logic, rich-boy Trump should be able to run up the highest deficit spending of all time.

Not really, given that the republican platform is leaning towards reduced spending and a balanced budget, while liberal I mean democrat platform ( the definition of democrat has changed over the years ) is to continue to increase spending regardless of the deficit. I would think you understood this by now.

 

[GILSAN]

Conservatives complain how the Liberals have what it takes to influence voters, so why isn't it their priority to help their own cause?

The Media's job is to report the news correctly and do HONEST, unbiased investigative reporting, NOT to influence people to vote on this or that candidate.

The US Media is really terrible in this area.. especially the Liberal Media.

 

[verbster]

The Media's job is to report the news correctly and do HONEST, unbiased investigative reporting, NOT to influence people to vote on this or that candidate.

The US Media is really terrible in this area.. especially the Liberal Media.

Who says what the media's job is? There is an idealistic goal for "honesty" in reporting, but it really doesn't happen. I mean, as soon as a newspaper endorsed a candidate (which they've been doing for decades), it becomes obviously biased even if they try to be neutral. Neither of us may like it, but the need for media conglomerates to make profits influences their decisions on content and slant.

And if you really want to see biased media, tune into FOX news. They show their bias by making overt negative statements against people and topics they don't support. If you saw the first debate, you'll see how they tried to influence views on candidates and topics.

 

[verbster]

Not really, given that the republican platform is leaning towards reduced spending and a balanced budget, while liberal I mean democrat platform ( the definition of democrat has changed over the years ) is to continue to increase spending regardless of the deficit. I would think you understood this by now.

If you mean you think I should understand the difference between a campaign platform and reality, I do. Republicans always claim they support a balanced budget, but when was the last time they actually had one? I would have thought you knew this.

 

[GILSAN]

Who says what the media's job is? There is an idealistic goal for "honesty" in reporting, but it really doesn't happen. I mean, as soon as a newspaper endorsed a candidate (which they've been doing for decades), it becomes obviously biased even if they try to be neutral. Neither of us may like it, but the need for media conglomerates to make profits influences their decisions on content and slant.

And if you really want to see biased media, tune into FOX news. They show their bias by making overt negative statements against people and topics they don't support. If you saw the first debate, you'll see how they tried to influence views on candidates and topics.

I'm glad our media doesn't do that here.... Yet, and hopefully never.

I don't watch Fox, only CNN, which is what I have on cable network. I can see how biased CNN is most of the time.

BTW, I did't like how Fox picked on Trump in the debates, or how they pitted some candidates against each other, but then Trump bashing is the in thing to do.

Till now the more the Media bashes Trump the more popular he gets and this is infuriating the US Media, which has the effect of making me very very happy

 

[verbster]

I'm glad our media doesn't do that here.... Yet, and hopefully never.

I don't watch Fox, only CNN, which is what I have on cable network. I can see how biased CNN is most of the time.

BTW, I did't like how Fox picked on Trump in the debates, or how they pitted some candidates against each other, but then Trump bashing is the in thing to do.

Till now the more the Media bashes Trump the more popular he gets and this is infuriating the US Media, which has the effect of making me very very happy

I would like to see your media's news show. I haven't watched CNN in a while. Which part do you consider most biased?

As far as Trump goes, he can't have it both ways. How can you support Trump's rude, undignified, stereotypical and unproven statements as simply "telling it like it is," or whatever, yet be offended when someone does the same to him? I'm only disappointed that the questions were chosen to spark drama meant to last post-debate, and not to get his true feelings on a political issue. But even so, I'm surprised they held back at all and didn't really go after him as hard as they could have, but that works better in a one-on-one interview. Besides, if Trump can't handle questions created to make him look bad, that's his problem. It's the price he pays for making outrageous statements he does and not expect to be called on them. His new "plan" for illegals shows that. It's just a lot of talk and a ton of money for something that won't work.

 

[verbster]

One of my current favorite quotes from Trump in reference to sending troops into Iraq:

'"Todd asks Trump from whom he gets his military advice. “Well, I watch the [TV] shows,” Trump says. “When you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the general and you have certain people that you like.”'

Hmmm . . . . sounds familiar . . . . hmmm . . . Oh! I've got it . . . . It sounds like Palin!

 

[johname]

Bernie Sanders is running as much against the ‘corporate media’ as he is against Hillary Clinton

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...orate-media-as-he-is-against-hillary-clinton/

 

[RogueWriter]

One of my current favorite quotes from Trump in reference to sending troops into Iraq:

'"Todd asks Trump from whom he gets his military advice. “Well, I watch the [TV] shows,” Trump says. “When you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the general and you have certain people that you like.”'

Hmmm . . . . sounds familiar . . . . hmmm . . . Oh! I've got it . . . . It sounds like Palin!

Having a community organizer oversee our foreign policy has worked -oh- so well.

 

[GILSAN]

Bernie Sanders is running as much against the ‘corporate media’ as he is against Hillary Clinton

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...orate-media-as-he-is-against-hillary-clinton/

Wow... some people in the Liberal world are beginning to realize that the Liberal Media is not only trying their hardest to pick a Republican but also doing their best to pick a Democrat!!

 

[verbster]

Having a community organizer oversee our foreign policy has worked -oh- so well.

Nice, safe, vague criticism. Specifics?

 

[GILSAN]

Hillary Clinton Is Rooting for Jeb Bush
The Clintons want Bush to win the nomination—because he’s easy to beat.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ooting-for-jeb-bush-121452.html#ixzz3j9IVN0RB