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Sure, most Republicans like Christie because they DON"T KNOW Christie, I like him as a person and his stance on standing up to the Public sector unions, but that's as far as it goes.. Once he get's on stage and lets the world know where he stands on most issues, he'll back at the Governors desk where he belongs.

Do you notice how the left just loves choosing our candidates? if you ever hear a Liberal backing a Republican, you know right then he's a moderate or a Democrat running on the Republican ticket.

The Left will always back a moderate over a real conservative, the last thing they want is another Ronald Reagan because electing Reaganite will turn back most of the progressive bullshit Liberals have fought for the last 2 decades, so they believe.

It's a Liberals biggest fear every 4 years... Palin was a Reaganite and look at what they did to her, Go back to Godlwater or Justice Bork, Go back to Justice Thomas the most conservative justice on the court who said during his confirmation hearings, something to the effect what the left was doing to him was a modern day lynching, and he was 100% RIGHT..

Liberals will almost always back a Republican who shares some of their own ideology, Let's look at Christie again, who in 2008 said that being in the United States without documentation was not a crime, OR when he stated on Fox News that he supported "common-sense gun control laws" what does that mean? only Christie knows... Or the big one, when he said that "climate change is real" and "it's time to defer to the experts." The same "experts" who falsified data and exaggerated climate models? most likely.

JB asked who my choices are for 2016, I have honestly not researched deep enough of my 3 picks because were so far out, but so far I like what I see in Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, in that order.
 
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"if you ever hear a Liberal backing a Republican, you know right then he's a moderate or a Democrat running on the Republican ticket."

Could just mean they have a chance to win. Taking the base just isn't going to cut it anymore. That base can only continue to shrink.

"Let's look at Christie again, who in 2008 said that being in the United States without documentation was not a crime, OR when he stated on Fox News that he supported "common-sense gun control laws" what does that mean? only Christie knows... Or the big one, when he said that "climate change is real" and "it's time to defer to the experts." The same "experts" who falsified data and exaggerated climate models? most likely."

That all sounds kind of good.

"Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio"

Tea Party types, aka people who have no chance of winning. And one of them started off at community college, doesn't have the pedigree.

Rand is just like his dad. Was reading up on Cruz, born in Canada. Will need to see his birth certificate.

And I don't know if you're see the reaction from those on the right, to some recent events.

"Mexican-American boy singing National Anthem at NBA finals attacked online"

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/12/4289633/mexican-american-boy-singing-national.html

Or Tim Kaine's speech in Spanish, you can search for reaction on that one:
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...speech-spanish-senate-floor/story?id=19376922

There are a lot of people in your party that are straight anti - mexican, cuban, spanish, non-white. So you can cancel that last two out.

The idea here is to win. Christie would have a better chance than those 3.

Poll: Chris Christie most popular in 2016

"Christie remains the most popular among Democrats with 54 percent viewing him favorably."

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/chris-christie-2016-92828.html
 
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The Super Christian, no abortion, no gay marriage types days are over. The country has evolved beyond that, even Repubicans recognize that..

"Evolved"?

LMAO.

When you look at our society today compared to 20 years ago and beyond, don't you mean "Degraded"?


Tea Party types,

Just what we need.
 
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"When you look at our society today compared to 20 years ago and beyond, don't you mean "Degraded"?"

20 years ago, we had Clinton, so agree with you there, I think it was better.

If you think we need more Tea Party, no. You won't win, period. They're just a nutty and hateful bunch. These people love Palin, Glenn Beck etc. That tells you all you need to know.
 
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20 years ago, we had Clinton, so agree with you there, I think it was better.

Yeah, when Clinton was sworn in Jan of 93, our society changed in a instant.. LMAO.

I don't think in the 80's, 70's or beyond there was a lot of mothers and fathers suing daughters and sons, or children suing their parents, were there?

Don't recall mass murders in our schools that we have today, and I don't think parents felt the need to do background checks on school teachers.

30 years ago children could walk home from school without looking over their shoulder, Children could openly make arts and crafts in public schools for their parents in celebration of CHRISMAS, store merchants weren't afraid to say the word CHRISTMAS or GOD at the risk of offending anyone..

We didn't have laws that strip parental righs away, allowing CHILDREN to walk into a Abortion clinic and get an abortion without PARENTAL CONSENT, or doctors murdering living , breathing, healthy babies AFTER their born.... Were they doing late term abortion in 70s and 80s?.. I wouldn't know.

And what about NAMBLA? the Love boy organization formed in 78, a pedophile advocacy organization that believes in the decriminalization of adults having sex with minors, Fully supported by the ACLU... GO Gay Rights GO!.

That's some great society you Liberals have given us... Forgive me if I DON'T sound grateful. that would be like thanking a jackass for doing a dance on my vintage car and taking a crap on it.
 
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Palin at the recent "Faith and Freedom" conference, designed to bring the Tea Party together with religious conservatives: "If we rededicate our land to the Lord, things will turn around," she said.

Don't need to know anything about anything, just gotta have faith, brothers and sisters, and God will make it right.
 
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Yeah, when Clinton was sworn in Jan of 93, our society changed in a instant.. LMAO.

I don't think in the 80's, 70's or beyond there was a lot of mothers and fathers suing daughters and sons, or children suing their parents, were there?

Don't recall mass murders in our schools that we have today, and I don't think parents felt the need to do background checks on school teachers.

30 years ago children could walk home from school without looking over their shoulder, Children could openly make arts and crafts in public schools for their parents in celebration of CHRISMAS, store merchants weren't afraid to say the word CHRISTMAS or GOD at the risk of offending anyone..

We didn't have laws that strip parental righs away, allowing CHILDREN to walk into a Abortion clinic and get an abortion without PARENTAL CONSENT, or doctors murdering living , breathing, healthy babies AFTER their born.... Were they doing late term abortion in 70s and 80s?.. I wouldn't know.

And what about NAMBLA? the Love boy organization formed in 78, a pedophile advocacy organization that believes in the decriminalization of adults having sex with minors, Fully supported by the ACLU... GO Gay Rights GO!.

That's some great society you Liberals have given us... Forgive me if I DON'T sound grateful. that would be like thanking a jackass for doing a dance on my vintage car and taking a crap on it.

The economy under Clinton was great.

The rest of the stuff, I'm wondering if Gilsan hacked your accout? NAMBLA, teacher background checks, school shootings, what?
 
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That's some great society you Liberals have given us... Forgive me if I DON'T sound grateful. that would be like thanking a jackass for doing a dance on my vintage car and taking a crap on it.
:lol: :lol: They are destroying everything that was good and replacing it with Sodom and Gomorrah Land and what's even more frightening is that their brainwashed brain cells think they are doing the right thing and no one else knows better than them. D-:

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Palin at the recent "Faith and Freedom" conference, designed to bring the Tea Party together with religious conservatives: "If we rededicate our land to the Lord, things will turn around," she said.

Don't need to know anything about anything, just gotta have faith, brothers and sisters, and God will make it right.
I suspect you must have a week spot for Sarah Palin, since you talk so much about her. :laugh: Can't really blame you, since she is still quite hot for her age. :red:

I'd rather see the land "rededicate to the Lord" than to Allah.
 
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I suspect you must have a week spot for Sarah Palin, since you talk so much about her. :laugh: Can't really blame you, since she is still quite hot for her age. :red:

I'd rather see the land "rededicate to the Lord" than to Allah.

Yeah, you got me. I can't resist airheads. I'm glad to see you described her as "hot." Would you do that with a man?
 
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Yeah, you got me. I can't resist airheads. I'm glad to see you described her as "hot." Would you do that with a man?
Would you do that with a man? :| What a strange question. :|

OK, considering that you seem to like Sarah so much, I've decided for the first time since I've been at Namepros to put a video about Palin, where she spoke at the recent "Faith and Freedom" conference that you mentioned a few posts back. Thanks for pointing this out... if it hadn't been for you I'd have missed that Palin speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vllwyRsvHEE#!

I'm actually surprised that someone whom you call an "Airhead" can talk quite well without using a teleprompter, :O granted she was using written talking points, like most politicians do, unlike Obama who needs his close companion... (no I'm not talking about Michelle) the teleprompter, everywhere he goes, even when talking at an Elementary School D-: How embarrassing is that? :red:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVpOH4MGPBg"]Obama Uses Teleprompters During Speech At Elementary School - YouTube[/ame]

I can't help to have a good laugh :laugh: every time I read or hear someone in the Liberal Media say that Obama is a good speaker.... really? :zzz: :zzz:
 
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Palin at the recent "Faith and Freedom" conference, designed to bring the Tea Party together with religious conservatives: "If we rededicate our land to the Lord, things will turn around," she said.

Don't need to know anything about anything, just gotta have faith, brothers and sisters, and God will make it right.

Yep, that was just totally out of place, imagine he saying that in a religious conference, shame on her...

I would much rather go to the house of the lord and listen to Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright speak the good word;



We started the AIDS virus. We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.

In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.

โ€œThe government lied about Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese were going to attack. Governmentโ€™s lied.โ€

โ€œWeโ€™ve got a paranoid group of patriots in power that now, in the interest of homeland stupidity โ€“ I mean homeland security โ€ฆโ€

โ€œThe government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African-American men with syphilis โ€ฆโ€

โ€œFighting for peace is like raping for virginity.โ€

โ€œโ€ฆ whatโ€™s going on in white America, U.S. of KKKA โ€ฆโ€

โ€œBlack men turning on black men โ€“ that is fighting the wrong enemy. You both are the primary targets in an oppressive society that sees both of you as a dangerous threat.โ€


The one "Racist" Liberals don't want to talk about.
 
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Yep, that was just totally out of place, imagine he saying that in a religious conference, shame on her...

I would much rather go to the house of the lord and listen to Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright speak the good word;



We started the AIDS virus. We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.

In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.

โ€œThe government lied about Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese were going to attack. Governmentโ€™s lied.โ€

โ€œWeโ€™ve got a paranoid group of patriots in power that now, in the interest of homeland stupidity โ€“ I mean homeland security โ€ฆโ€

โ€œThe government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African-American men with syphilis โ€ฆโ€

โ€œFighting for peace is like raping for virginity.โ€

โ€œโ€ฆ whatโ€™s going on in white America, U.S. of KKKA โ€ฆโ€

โ€œBlack men turning on black men โ€“ that is fighting the wrong enemy. You both are the primary targets in an oppressive society that sees both of you as a dangerous threat.โ€


The one "Racist" Liberals don't want to talk about.

Let me state the obvious difference, Obama isn't the pastor, Obama didn't say those things.

Plus, some of that stuff was true:

โ€œThe government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African-American men with syphilis โ€ฆ"
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment"]Tuskegee syphilis experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

It's not the only time either.
 
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The economy under Clinton was great.

What's interesting about that is the economy sucked in Clintons first 2 years in office the 103rd congress where Democrats controlled BOTH houses, when Dems doubled down on taxes, doubling the capital gains tax.. Then in the next mid term elections, Dems were booted out and Republicans took control of BOTH houses of Congress throughout Clintons presidency, Look up the 104th, 105th and 106th congress.

Clinton deserves credit, NOT for what HE did, but for going along with almost everything Republicans wanted and DID, including Newts contract with America.

By far, Obama is NO Bill Clinton, Obama does it his way or the highway and it's the American people who have been paying dearly for it, as well as future generations.

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Let me state the obvious difference, Obama isn't the pastor, Obama didn't say those things.

That's pretty week don't you think? If you go to Church or anywhere else, and listen to Racist spew hate and bigotry, do you go again?

Obama certainly DID.
 
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What's interesting about that is the economy sucked in Clintons first 2 years in office the 103rd congress Democrats controlled BOTH houses, where Dems doubled down on taxes, doubling the capital gains tax.. Then in the next mid term elections, Dems were booted out and Republicans took control of BOTH houses of Congress throughout Clintons presidency.

Clinton deserves credit, NOT for what HE did, but for going along with almost everything Republicans wanted, including Newts contract with America.

By far, Obama is NO Bill Clinton, Obama does it his way or the highway and it's the American people who have been paying dearly for it, as well as future generations.

So again, you admit the economy was great under Clinton and earlier admitted the economy is now getting better under Obama. We agree.

"That's pretty week don't you think? If you go to Church or anywhere else, and listen to Racist spew hate and bigotry, do you go again?"

No, what's weak is cherry picking. What's weak is thinking the pastor's views are your own. Now if Obama said those things, it would be another story. What's weak is not deciding if he's a Christian listening to some crazy pastor or some Muslim. You guys never stuck with one story. It's like fascist, socialist, communist. Get the story/lie together, pick one, and focus on it and all be on the same page.
 
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So again, you admit the economy was great under Clinton and earlier admitted the economy is now getting better under Obama. We agree.

Never agreed with any such thing,

I agree the economy was good under Clinton in his last 6 years.

NOT so for Obama; is a matter a fact it's FAR worse, I'm not going to play your game and cherry picking the worst and the best to paint a pretty picture, you love Libs love doing that and it's quite deceiving.

One of the most important factors when measuring the state of the economy is the labor force, and it's quite dismal under this President;


U.S. Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1979

AP | By PAUL WISEMAN and JESSE WASHINGTON
Posted: 04/06/2013 9:55 am EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) โ€” After a full year of fruitless job hunting, Natasha Baebler just gave up.

She'd already abandoned hope of getting work in her field, working with the disabled. But she couldn't land anything else, either โ€” not even a job interview at a telephone call center.

Until she feels confident enough to send out resumes again, she'll get by on food stamps and disability checks from Social Security and live with her parents in St. Louis.

"I'm not proud of it," says Baebler, who is in her mid-30s and is blind. "The only way I'm able to sustain any semblance of self-preservation is to rely on government programs that I have no desire to be on."

Baebler's frustrating experience has become all too common nearly four years after the Great Recession ended: Many Americans are still so discouraged that they've given up on the job market.

Older Americans have retired early. Younger ones have enrolled in school. Others have suspended their job hunt until the employment landscape brightens. Some, like Baebler, are collecting disability checks.

It isn't supposed to be this way. After a recession, an improving economy is supposed to bring people back into the job market.

Instead, the number of Americans in the labor force โ€” those who have a job or are looking for one โ€” fell by nearly half a million people from February to March, the government said Friday. And the percentage of working-age adults in the labor force โ€” what's called the participation rate โ€” fell to 63.3 percent last month. It's the lowest such figure since May 1979.

The falling participation rate tarnished the only apparent good news in the jobs report the Labor Department released Friday: The unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7.6 percent in March from 7.7 in February.

People without a job who stop looking for one are no longer counted as unemployed. That's why the U.S. unemployment rate dropped in March despite weak hiring. If the 496,000 who left the labor force last month had still been looking for jobs, the unemployment rate would have risen to 7.9 percent in March.

"Unemployment dropped for all the wrong reasons," says Craig Alexander, chief economist with TD Bank Financial Group. "It dropped because more workers stopped looking for jobs. It signaled less confidence and optimism that there are jobs out there."

The participation rate peaked at 67.3 percent in 2000, reflecting an influx of women into the work force. It's been falling steadily ever since.


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But according to JB Lions, the economy is doing GREAT, it's BETTER, it's IMPROVING, everything is just FINE.

Even the National DEBT has gotten better,

Growing from $10.5 TRILLION when Bush left office to $16.8 TRILLION

And we still have 3 more years of borrowing $4 Billion dollars a day, YEP, another step in the right direction..

Aint this Obama guy something? He really did turn this economy around, everything from fudging unemployment data to win re-election to growing the size of Government and shrinking the public sector like no other President before him has.

He has even re-defined the words; "Work Ethic" Today this means standing in line at the Welfare office, filling out forms and collecting as much of the $52, 000 a year each unemployed person with no bank account is entitled to.

Bleeding the system for everything they can get, where seeking a job is actually discouraged by means of our Government making it too damn EASY for them NOT to look for work.

But who cares right? They don't have to pay it back, and it will be our children and grandchildren that will be paying for it.

It's all part of the slow degradation of American Society that Liberals and progressives are responsible for.
 
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Never agreed with any such thing,

I agree the economy was good under Clinton in his last 6 years.

NOT so for Obama; is a matter a fact it's FAR worse, I'm not going to play your game and cherry picking the worst and the best to paint a pretty picture, you love Libs love doing that and it's quite deceiving.

One of the most important factors when measuring the state of the economy is the labor force, and it's quite dismal under this President;


U.S. Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1979

AP | By PAUL WISEMAN and JESSE WASHINGTON
Posted: 04/06/2013 9:55 am EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) โ€” After a full year of fruitless job hunting, Natasha Baebler just gave up.

She'd already abandoned hope of getting work in her field, working with the disabled. But she couldn't land anything else, either โ€” not even a job interview at a telephone call center.

Until she feels confident enough to send out resumes again, she'll get by on food stamps and disability checks from Social Security and live with her parents in St. Louis.

"I'm not proud of it," says Baebler, who is in her mid-30s and is blind. "The only way I'm able to sustain any semblance of self-preservation is to rely on government programs that I have no desire to be on."

Baebler's frustrating experience has become all too common nearly four years after the Great Recession ended: Many Americans are still so discouraged that they've given up on the job market.

Older Americans have retired early. Younger ones have enrolled in school. Others have suspended their job hunt until the employment landscape brightens. Some, like Baebler, are collecting disability checks.

It isn't supposed to be this way. After a recession, an improving economy is supposed to bring people back into the job market.

Instead, the number of Americans in the labor force โ€” those who have a job or are looking for one โ€” fell by nearly half a million people from February to March, the government said Friday. And the percentage of working-age adults in the labor force โ€” what's called the participation rate โ€” fell to 63.3 percent last month. It's the lowest such figure since May 1979.

The falling participation rate tarnished the only apparent good news in the jobs report the Labor Department released Friday: The unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7.6 percent in March from 7.7 in February.

People without a job who stop looking for one are no longer counted as unemployed. That's why the U.S. unemployment rate dropped in March despite weak hiring. If the 496,000 who left the labor force last month had still been looking for jobs, the unemployment rate would have risen to 7.9 percent in March.

"Unemployment dropped for all the wrong reasons," says Craig Alexander, chief economist with TD Bank Financial Group. "It dropped because more workers stopped looking for jobs. It signaled less confidence and optimism that there are jobs out there."

The participation rate peaked at 67.3 percent in 2000, reflecting an influx of women into the work force. It's been falling steadily ever since.


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But according to JB Lions, the economy is doing GREAT, it's BETTER, it's IMPROVING, everything is just FINE.

Even the National DEBT has gotten better,

Growing from $10.5 TRILLION when Bush left office to $16.8 TRILLION

And we still have 3 more years of borrowing $4 Billion dollars a day, YEP, another step in the right direction..

Aint this Obama guy something? He really did turn this economy around, everything from fudging unemployment data to win re-election to growing the size of Government and shrinking the public sector like no other President before him has.

He has even re-defined the words; "Work Ethic" Today this means standing in line at the Welfare office, filling out forms and collecting as much of the $52, 000 a year each unemployed person with no bank account is entitled to.

Bleeding the system for everything they can get, where seeking a job is actually discouraged by means of our Government making it too damn EASY for them NOT to look for work.

But who cares right? They don't have to pay it back, and it will be our children and grandchildren that will be paying for it.

It's all part of the slow degradation of American Society that Liberals and progressives are responsible for.

But you did admit it earlier. I laid it out pretty clearly and once you took a look at it:

"But when the economy is picking up and the numbers look good, we see posts like these,"

And you should be happy about that, you're an American right? It seems a lot of people on the right, think party first, instead of country first. If there is good news, things looking up, it's horrible to you. When picking candidates, it seems you want whoever the Dems hate the most. If there is a Republican candidate that can cross party lines, get votes from everybody, that should be a good thing, since the President is supposed to rep the country. But for those on the right, they're a sellout or traitor. Dems finally see a possible Republican candidate that is somewhat decent and oh no, we can't have that. Rather vote for the far right, Tea Party candidate that has no chance of winning.
 
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When picking candidates, it seems you want whoever the Dems hate the most. If there is a Republican candidate that can cross party lines, get votes from everybody, that should be a good thing, since the President is supposed to rep the country. But for those on the right, they're a sellout or traitor. Dems finally see a possible Republican candidate that is somewhat decent and oh no, we can't have that.

:bingo:

And if the Republican party self-destructs, this will be why.
 
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Never trust a Liberal when he/she suggests a good candidate for the Conservatives. Whatever they suggest, just do the opposite. :laugh: Can't trust a snake, 'cause it will always bite you
 
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Speaking of snakes, congratulations on showing your true colors. It's not just anyone who feels confident enough to lump a billion people intro a single category and insult them.
 
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Here's a prime example of two Liberal snakes who speak with forked tongue, basically defending Bill Maher, who described Sarah Palin's special needs child, Trig as "Retarded"

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/06/17/view-women-defend-maher

This is not the first time that very distinguished Liberal comedians have insulted Palin's Kids. But to have those two cows from "The View" defending such a low down act is revolting to say the least, but I'm sure Liberals will just shrug it off as "no big deal there".
 
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