The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[GILSAN]

Gilsan, I wasn't talking about all that other stuff. I was talking about something specific. You usually respond by bringing in other topics and stuff that doesn't matter, trying to divert. Like golf, when Bush and Reagan play golf and the usually blah, blah, blah liberal media stuff.

"I'm for background checks."

Great, because background checks make sense. You're with Obama and 93% of Americans.

I'm not diverting from the conversation. What I said is related. Obama, the Democrats and especially the Liberal Media have treated the Republicans and conservatives like shit. They should have talked to them and negotiated. Instead they have looked down on them with arrogance and contempt and now expect the Republicans to just say "Yes Sir, Yes Sir". It's up to Obama to get the ball moving and I'm not talking about the golf ball.

They should have negotiated with their opponents with the respect they deserve. To me I see the vast majority of politicians as the scum of the earth, only beaten by Bankers and the Kiss Ass Liberal Media who are on top of the Pyramid. So it always confuses the hell out of me how the Liberal Media can defend Liberal politicians that are liars and corrupt and don't give a shit about the people who elected them.

Again the point I'm making is that Background checks is a small part of the problem. Gang violence, Hollywood and TV violence, violent video games, Mental disease, the breakdown of the family especially amongst some communities, bullying etc. That's what Obama & Co. should concentrate on as well as gun background checks

 

[JB Lions]

No, it's up to the Republicans to listen to the public and vote accordingly. Not be scared because they might get a bad grade from the NRA. You can't put this on Obama, he voted correctly. You need to stop making excuses for them.

Some of the other stuff, mental disease, gang violence etc, I would imagine people are more on the same page than not.

This stuff tho - "Hollywood and TV violence, violent video games"

Scapegoat type stuff. The ole blaming media for violence, when it's more mental disease and other issues.

 

[verbster]

I'm not diverting from the conversation. What I said is related. Obama, the Democrats and especially the Liberal Media have treated the Republicans and conservatives like shit. They should have talked to them and negotiated. Instead they have looked down on them with arrogance and contempt and now expect the Republicans to just say "Yes Sir, Yes Sir". It's up to Obama to get the ball moving and I'm not talking about the golf ball.

They should have negotiated with their opponents with the respect they deserve. To me I see the vast majority of politicians as the scum of the earth, only beaten by Bankers and the Kiss Ass Liberal Media who are on top of the Pyramid. So it always confuses the hell out of me how the Liberal Media can defend Liberal politicians that are liars and corrupt and don't give a shit about the people who elected them.

Again the point I'm making is that Background checks is a small part of the problem. Gang violence, Hollywood and TV violence, violent video games, Mental disease, the breakdown of the family especially amongst some communities, bullying etc. That's what Obama & Co. should concentrate on as well as gun background checks

Do you not see the irony of which you speak? look at what the Republican agenda was for the last four years: it wasn't to help anyone; it was to simply get President Obama out of the White House using every trick they could, no matter what it took. And they still failed, despite the misleading rhetoric, outright falsehoods and smear tactics the Republicans tried.

And now you think Obama can solve the gun problem by fixing gang violence, TV and ,movie violence, game violence, mental disease, the breakdown of the family, and bullying? You must think Obama is God or something close to it to fix problems that have existed in the US for generations. Why not just demand complete world peace? That's about as realistic.

 

[GILSAN]

Do you not see the irony of which you speak? look at what the Republican agenda was for the last four years: it wasn't to help anyone; it was to simply get President Obama out of the White House using every trick they could, no matter what it took. And they still failed, despite the misleading rhetoric, outright falsehoods and smear tactics the Republicans tried.

So what the hell is an opposition party supposed to do... kiss Obama's ass for 4 years? Look at the Liberal Media's agenda especially in the last 4 years. All they did was to help Obama get re-elected. Are you so f--king blind that you don't see this?

And now you think Obama can solve the gun problem by fixing gang violence, TV and ,movie violence, game violence, mental disease, the breakdown of the family, and bullying? You must think Obama is God or something close to it to fix problems that have existed in the US for generations. Why not just demand complete world peace? That's about as realistic.

Obama comes from the most violent city in the US in terms of gun deaths. Why didn't he and his wife try to talk to the African-American and Latino gangs and try to help them to be better citizens. Get them off their reliance of food stamps and all that violence and convince them to become productive citizens of a community.

All this time in this thread and others you've never once criticized Obama and his policies. According to you and the stupid Liberal Media, he is the perfect President and does nothing wrong. All the problems in the US are because of Bush, the Republicans and lately also the Sequester.

I would definitely be the last person in this world to call Obama God.

 

[verbster]

So what the hell is an opposition party supposed to do... kiss Obama's ass for 4 years? Look at the Liberal Media's agenda especially in the last 4 years. All they did was to help Obama get re-elected. Are you so f--king blind that you don't see this?

Obama comes from the most violent city in the US in terms of gun deaths. Why didn't he and his wife try to talk to the African-American and Latino gangs and try to help them to be better citizens. Get them off their reliance of food stamps and all that violence and convince them to become productive citizens of a community.

All this time in this thread and others you've never once criticized Obama and his policies. According to you and the stupid Liberal Media, he is the perfect President and does nothing wrong. All the problems in the US are because of Bush, the Republicans and lately also the Sequester.

I would definitely be the last person in this world to call Obama God.

I see. If A = D, then X= Q. Just because I've not criticized Obama doesn't mean I think he is the perfect president, let alone think he does nothing wrong. But when I read stuff like, "Why didn't he and his wife try to talk to the African-American and Latino gangs and try to help them to be better citizens. Get them off their reliance of food stamps and all that violence and convince them to become productive citizens of a community," it makes me realize there's a total disconnect. Have a talk with gang members and convince them to become productive citizens? Are you kidding?

 

[GILSAN]

Boston suspects are 'brothers from the Russia region near Chechnya which has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency that has carried out deadly bombings,. Apparently the brothers are Muslim and had lived in U.S. for about a decade, according to an uncle'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shot-dead-second-terrorist-run-car-chase.html

What is the possibility of suspect #2 being caught alive? Virtually zero in my opinion.

 

[RaiderGirl]

Oh but ALL the Terrorism is coming from the middle east, so says one member on DNF where he calls for the Middle East to be Nuked, another one calls for firing squads without a trial and a few others Human torture..

Condoning the use of Torture, All from the same bleeding hearts who sharply criticized Bush/Cheney after 911 on Torture.

I think we would all like to see them pay for what they did, but let's first capture them, put them on trial and waste them on National TV, that I would be in favor of.

 

[Theo Goodman]

"suspects"

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Condoning the use of Torture, All from the same bleeding hearts who sharply criticized Bush/Cheney after 911 on Torture"

I agree with this comment.

 

[enlytend]

What is the possibility of suspect #2 being caught alive? Virtually zero in my opinion.

Agreed. Best possible scenario is they get him before he takes out any more innocent people. Because you know at this point he probably wants to go out in a blaze of glory.

I'm kind of concerned that this isn't over yet - it sounded like he WAS cornered for a while ... and ... got away???!!!

 

[GILSAN]

Agreed. Best possible scenario is they get him before he takes out any more innocent people. Because you know at this point he probably wants to go out in a blaze of glory.

I'm kind of concerned that this isn't over yet - it sounded like he WAS cornered for a while ... and ... got away???!!!

I wonder if he's holding any hostages?

What I can't figure out is why would they go and kill an MIT guard, then carjacked an SUV, tell the car owner that they are the Boston Marathon bombers, and robbed a 7-Eleven store, all this after having their pictures shown all over the world

Almost seems like they wanted to get caught

Isn't it pretty ironic that the younger brother, that's being hunted, became a US citizen last year on September 11th.

 

[enlytend]

Seems to me like the bombings were carefully planned, the "getaway?" Not so much. Or maybe they didn't plan what to do afterwards because they didn't think they'd be caught.

From the little bits of information here and there, my first impressions are that the older brother was the mastermind Friend of their sister said she (the sister) was afraid of him, was arrested for beating a g/f, dropped out of school, became very "religious", enjoyed terrorist videos on Youtube, said he had no American friends ... younger one apparently lived a normal life on the surface, hung out with his friends, smoked weed, listened to music.

If they don't take him alive, it will leave a lot of questions that will never be answered.

 

[JB Lions]

Looks like something is happening, shots fired etc. Thinking they might have him.

I'm kind of concerned that this isn't over yet - it sounded like he WAS cornered for a while ... and ... got away???!!!

Yeah, was watching on the news last night, couldn't understand how he got away. Figured he must have went into some house.

My cable box is acting up, watching live online

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51595667?from=en-us_msnhp

 

[GILSAN]

Looks like something is happening, shots fired etc. Thinking they might have him.

He's been cornered inside a boat. It should be over pretty soon.

Must be millions of people around the world watching this, and probably hoping they get him alive.

 

[JB Lions]

He's alive and in custody. Good they got him.

 

[GILSAN]

Pretty amazing work from the police and other authorities

 

[RaiderGirl]

Or maybe they didn't plan what to do afterwards because they didn't think they'd be caught.

Bingo!.. They had no exit plan whatsoever.

They even stuck around in the crowd after the bomb went off, which was actually the smart thing to do when you think about, they must of learned from the Oklahoma City bombing that when you flee the scene of something of this magnitude, your leaving for a reason.

 

[DU]

Must be millions of people around the world watching this, and probably hoping they get him alive.

I want to watch Shark Tank but all I got is some crap reporter on TV talking about boats and maybes.

 

[lennco]

I want to watch Shark Tank but all I got is some crap reporter on TV talking about boats and maybes.

You didn't miss much, it was a repeat for the 3rd time.

 

[DU]

You didn't miss much, it was a repeat for the 3rd time.

I only watch it for Mark Cuban's faces but at least I know I didn't miss much

 

[lennco]

I only watch it for Mark Cuban's faces but at least I know I didn't miss much

I like to watch Mr. Wonderful get squeezed out of a deal from the other sharks