The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[DU]

Lefties, Liberals or Progressives?

I have never met a single person in my entire life who referred to themselves as progressive.

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It's really irrelevant, I have no doubt there are worthy innovative technogies out there which deserve a federal loan guarantee.

I don't believe in federal loan guarantees at all.

Does that make me conservative or liberal? or progressive?

 

[Kate]

Torture Poll: Most Americans Say Torture Is Justifiable At Times
Maybe torture should be legalized as well, because the people are always right.

 

[DU]

Torture Poll: Most Americans Say Torture Is Justifiable At Times
Maybe torture should be legalized as well, because the people are always right.

Well people wanted to legalize marriage for all...:lol:

 

[GILSAN]

Oh, by the way, your buddy, Pat Condell

"I support gay marriage"

https://twitter.com/patcondell/status/264375706732077056

He's pretty much anti-all religions (since he's an athiest) and some of their backwards beliefs, including yours.

I'm quite aware of what Pat Condell is and it doesn't bother me one iota, but to me, one of the most important things is what he isn't. He's NOT a hypocrite like the majority of Liberals. And even though he's an atheist he is especially critical of the religion of peace that the liberals are trying so desperately to defend.

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I have never met a single person in my entire life who referred to themselves as progressive.

JB Lions loves to rub it in how progressive he is and how backwards anyone who doesn't agree with him is. He even gets an orgasm when another country legalizes gay marriage

 

[RaiderGirl]

Your man, Bloomberg, now wants to up the cigarette buying age to 21. So you can't drink or smoke till you're 21, but can go fight wars, kill or be killed.

I thought Bloomberg was your guy?

In case you don't know, conservatives are for less government, allowing individuals to make their own decisions, Unlike progressives who promote regulating almost every aspect of peoples lives.

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yea thats a lot of "green" compaines that went bankrupt. So they all had loans that were rubberstamped by Obama?

YES, It all came out of the $183 BILLION dollar Stimulus in 2009, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which didn't do squat in creating jobs in the private sector.

What it did do is grow the size of Government, Like that's what we needed when our National Debt was $11 TRILLION that year, and now approaching $17 TRILLION this year.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

[verbster]

In case you don't know, conservatives are for less government, allowing individuals to make their own decisions, Unlike progressives who promote regulating almost every aspect of peoples lives.

This kind of generalized, inaccurate labeling of voting individuals does nothing but contribute to making people think they must choose an us or them type of attitude.

However, I am curious as to what part of government you would cut, especially in an amount that would matter. Do you think individual states can be self-sufficient and still maintain comprehensive interstate interactions?

 

[JB Lions]

I thought Bloomberg was your guy?

In case you don't know, conservatives are for less government, allowing individuals to make their own decisions, Unlike progressives who promote regulating almost every aspect of peoples lives.

No, Gilsan is actually the Bloomberg fan. You missed some conversation when you were at the other board. You stopped posting here after Romney lost. We were talking about the soda ban, Gilsan is all for it. I'm for freedom, progress.

"Yes I'm OK with NY Mayor Bloomberg trying to ban big sodas as it can only be beneficial for obese people, just like I'm fine with banning smoking from public places for health reasons, even though I'm no longer a smoker. But even when I was a smoker I agreed to it."

http://www.namepros.com/4467688-post1178.html

And, I have to point out the whole conservatives are for less government, is nonsense, always has been. When it comes to social issues, they're all up in your business. It's the conservatives, not liberals, who want to take women's rights away (abortion) and keep others from having rights (gay marriage). So conservatives are for more government.

As far as regulation, it seems Republicans aren't a fan of that. We don't need so much where it stifles business but we do need some common sense regulation. Ask Perry from Texas:

"Despite West explosion, Rick Perry sticks to his anti-regulatory schtick"

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dalla...y-sticks-to-his-anti-regulatory-schtick.html/

That same Mr. Perry who wanted to secede, who voted against Sandy relief - "took less than 24 hours to ask President Obama for money—from the federal government." after the plant explosion in Texas.

 

[DU]

However, I am curious as to what part of government you would cut,

Most ideologies can't answer this question because there is no egalitarian starting point.

The prevailing view of the masses is "I'm alright jack" and that's just good enough for most people. Anything else would just be socialism.

Credit reset anyone?

 

[GILSAN]

No, Gilsan is actually the Bloomberg fan. You missed some conversation when you were at the other board. You stopped posting here after Romney lost. We were talking about the soda ban, Gilsan is all for it. I'm for freedom, progress.

"Yes I'm OK with NY Mayor Bloomberg trying to ban big sodas as it can only be beneficial for obese people, just like I'm fine with banning smoking from public places for health reasons, even though I'm no longer a smoker. But even when I was a smoker I agreed to it."

http://www.namepros.com/4467688-post1178.html
.

Agreeing on one thing doesn't make me a fan of all his policies. Remember that I also agreed with Michele Obama trying to implement healthy food for school kids. And an even bigger surprise is that I've actually agreed with you JB Lions, on one or two occasions. Yes I know it's shocking but it's true. :O

So don't try to twist things around by making mountains out of molehills.

What I'd like to see banned are the Big Food companies that are feeding people useless, unhealthy junk food that has only helped create a country full of very obese and unhealthy people that are a burden on themselves, their family and society as a whole.

Obese people bring no benefits to this world except for helping create more and more profits for Big Food and Big Pharmaceuticals. Simple as that.

My apologies to obese people, but the fact is that you are mostly NOT to blame. It's the crap they feed that's to blame. Big Food Companies should be forced by law to make healthy food. If they don't do it, put the CEO's and people in charge in prison and feed them only crap food for a few years to see if they like it.

 

[JB Lions]

"Obese people bring no benefits to this world except for helping create more and more profits for Big Food and Big Pharmaceuticals. Simple as that."

Same with old people such as yourself. There's big money in medicine, retirement homes etc. Drain on society. What can we do about that?

"My apologies to obese people, but the fact is that you are mostly NOT to blame."

That's some bs as well. You decide what you eat, period. The year is 2013. Information is out there. I'm a big believer in personal responsibility. You're a big believer in blaming somebody else.

"Companies should be forced by law to make healthy food."

And also a big believer in government telling people what they can and cannot eat.

Your views are very Anti-Freedom. Can't marry who you want, can't eat what you want etc.

 

[GILSAN]

Your views are very Anti-Freedom. Can't marry who you want, can't eat what you want etc.

My views are far superior to the brainwashed crap that's populating the few brain cells you may have left. Thanks to Liberals like yourself everything is going down the crap hole. You people are really blind. No wonder IowaDawg doesn't bother arguing with idiots like you. A waste of f--king time.

 

[JB Lions]

I doubt he agrees with you either. I'm sure he likes having the choice of what to eat and doesn't think the government should get involved in that. I'm sure he believes in personal responsibility.

You need Mr. Government to do that for you. That's not a superior mind, that's a slave mind.

 

[GILSAN]

I doubt he agrees with you either. I'm sure he likes having the choice of what to eat and doesn't think the government should get involved in that. I'm sure he believes in personal responsibility.

You need Mr. Government to do that for you. That's not a superior mind, that's a slave mind.

I've had enough talking to stupid, brainwashed, perverted minds that believe killing 1.3 million babies a year is just fine. Just GFY, I've had enough of your crap

 

[verbster]

I've had enough talking to stupid, brainwashed, perverted minds that believe killing 1.3 million babies a year is just fine. Just GFY, I've had enough of your crap

Ever notice when "conservatives" don't have an answer, they go off on screaming rants and calling people names?

Speaking of answers, here's a 4th grade science quiz from a religious school:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

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Obese people bring no benefits to this world except for helping create more and more profits for Big Food and Big Pharmaceuticals. Simple as that.

I know a lot of very smart overweight people.

 

[Theo Goodman]

"GFY"
Hey chill out...
.
"No wonder IowaDawg doesn't bother arguing with idiots like you. A waste of f--king time."

relax this is the internet.
Count to 10
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
repeat "its just the internet"
Take a deep breath.

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Some people think its DNA others think it has to do with the "scum of the earth" . I guess it really makes a lot of sense to "discuss" with people that have decided those things are "the truth".
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I suggest using good arguments instead of things like "GFY" "F--king time" ect to make your point.

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[DU]

I know a lot of very smart overweight people.

Hey I resemble that comment!

Well half of it...

 

[verbster]

Hey I resemble that comment!

Well half of it...

Problem with your weight, huh? LOL.

 

[DU]

Problem with your weight, huh? LOL.

I'd like to argue it's my huge oversized (and thus underutilized) brain... lol

 

[RaiderGirl]

However, I am curious as to what part of government you would cut, especially in an amount that would matter.

Let's start with these;

Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
Administration on Aging (AoA)
African Development Foundation
Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ)
Agricultural Marketing Service
Agricultural Research Service
Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (Treasury)
AMTRAK (National Railroad Passenger Corporation)
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
Appalachian Regional Commission
Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board
Arctic Research Commission
Arms Control and International Security
Arthritis and Musculoskeletal Interagency Coordinating Committee
Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship and Excellence in Education Foundation
Bonneville Power Administration
Botanic Garden
Broadcasting Board of Governors
Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
Bureau of Industry and Security
Bureau of International Labor Affairs
Bureau of Justice Statistics
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Bureau of Land Management (BLM)
Bureau of Public Debt
Bureau of Reclamation
Bureau of Transportation Statistics
Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion
Chief Acquisition Officers Council
Chief Financial Officers Council
Chief Human Capital Officers Council
Chief Information Officers Council
Citizens’ Stamp Advisory Committee
Commission of Fine Arts
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Commission)
Committee for the Implementation of Textile Agreements
Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS)
Community Planning and Development
Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Corporation for National and Community Service
Council of Economic Advisers
Council on Environmental Quality
National Institute of Food and Agriculture
Denali Commission
Department of Commerce (DOC)
Department of Education (ED)
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Department of Labor (DOL)
Domestic Policy Council
Economic, Business and Agricultural Affairs (State Department)
Economic Adjustment Office
Economic Development Administration
Economic Research Service
Economics & Statistics Administration
Election Assistance Commission
Elementary and Secondary Education
Endangered Species Committee
Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy
Energy Information Administration
Environmental Management (Energy Department)
Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity
Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board
Federal Citizen Information Center (FCIC)
Federal Consulting Group
Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council
Federal Geographic Data Committee
Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight
Federal Housing Finance Board
Federal Interagency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds
Federal Interagency Committee on Education
Federal Interagency Council on Statistical Policy
Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer
Federal Labor Relations Authority
Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
Federal Transit Administration
Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
Financial Management Service (Treasury Department)
Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, National Commission
Fish and Wildlife Service
Food, Nutrition and Consumer Services
Foreign Agricultural Service
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission
Fossil Energy
Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board
Government National Mortgage Association
Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration
Health Resources and Services Administration
Helsinki Commission (Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe)
Indian Arts and Crafts Board
Information Resource Management College
Innovation and Improvement Office
Institute of Education Sciences
Institute of Peace
Interagency Alternative Dispute Resolution Working Group
Interagency Council on Homelessness
Inter-American Foundation
International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB)
Japan-United States Friendship Commission
John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
Joint Board for the Enrollment of Actuaries
Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies
Joint Fire Science Program
Lead Hazard Control (Housing and Urban Development Department)
Legal Services Corporation
Marine Mammal Commission
Marketing and Regulatory Programs (Agriculture Department)
Medicare Payment Advisory Commission
Merit Systems Protection Board
Migratory Bird Conservation Commission
Millennium Challenge Corporation
Minerals Management Service
Minority Business Development Agency
Mississippi River Commission
Multifamily Housing Office
National Agricultural Statistics Service
National AIDS Policy Office
National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare
National Capital Planning Commission
National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform
National Drug Intelligence Center
National Economic Council
National Endowment for the Arts
National Endowment for the Humanities
National Gallery of Art
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Institute of Food and Agriculture
National Institute for Literacy
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
National Labor Relations Board
National Science Foundation
Natural Resources Conservation Service
Northwest Power Planning Council
Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight
Office of Government Ethics
Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP)
Office of Science and Technology Policy
Office of Thrift Supervision
Open World Leadership Center
Overseas Private Investment Corporation
Pardon Attorney Office
Peace Corps
Policy Development and Research (Housing and Urban Development Department)
Political Affairs (State Department)
Postsecondary Education
Presidio Trust
Public and Indian Housing
Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs (State Department)
Radio and TV Marti (Español)
Railroad Retirement Board
Regulatory Information Service Center
Rehabilitation Services Administration (Education Department)
Research, Education and Economics (Agriculture Department)
Research and Innovative Technology Administration (Transportation Department)
Risk Management Agency (Agriculture Department)
Rural Business and Cooperative Programs
Rural Development
Rural Housing Service
Rural Utilities Service
Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation
Science Office (Energy Department)
Social Security Advisory Board
State Justice Institute
Stennis Center for Public Service
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
Surface Transportation Board
Susquehanna River Basin Commission
Taxpayer Advocacy Panel
U.S. Mission to the United Nations
U.S. Trade and Development Agency
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences
Vocational and Adult Education
White House Commission on Presidential Scholars
White House Commission on the National Moment of Remembrance
Women’s Bureau (Labor Department)
Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars

You eliminate these and that $17 TRILLION in debt would be wiped out in no time.

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Ever notice when "conservatives" don't have an answer, they go off on screaming rants and calling people names? .

This is actually a common trait among liberals, who tend to be very intolerant of others opinions, more so than conservatives.

 

[GILSAN]

"GFY"
Hey chill out...
.
"No wonder IowaDawg doesn't bother arguing with idiots like you. A waste of f--king time."

relax this is the internet.
Count to 10
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
repeat "its just the internet"
Take a deep breath.
-
Some people think its DNA others think it has to do with the "scum of the earth" . I guess it really makes a lot of sense to "discuss" with people that have decided those things are "the truth".
-
I suggest using good arguments instead of things like "GFY" "F--king time" ect to make your point.

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Hey, I don't need any lessons in morality, especially from a person who is always defending the Religion of Peace.