The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[verbster]

At least Swedish gangs only kill chickens or kick Verbster's Butt

No question about it, Bjorn kicked my butt on a regular basis and always with a big smile at the end. FYI--He didn't like Tuborg beer.

 

[GILSAN]

No question about it, Bjorn kicked my butt on a regular basis and always with a big smile at the end. FYI--He didn't like Tuborg beer.

Can't say I blame him. Anyone who kicks butt must feel good at the end. :D Maybe he prefers Carlsberg or Heineken or a good German brew. I just realized we've passed the 1000 post mark

 

[verbster]

I see Fox news got caught making things up again. Said Germany was ahead of the US in solar energy because Germany was a small country with a lot more sun that the USA. . . that it would work in California but not on the East Coast. Unfortunately, Fox followers will believe that nonsense.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJN0B2RIIMI"]Fox Cedes America's Solar Industry To Germany - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GILSAN]

I see Fox news got caught making things up again. Said Germany was ahead of the US in solar energy because Germany was a small country with a lot more sun that the USA. . . that it would work in California but not on the East Coast. Unfortunately, Fox followers will believe that nonsense.

Yes, she put her foot in her mouth with that " Germany has a lot more sun than the US". Germany is very far ahead in solar energy which accounts for over 10% of their production and rising fast. A very high percentage of their homes and apartments and buildings have panels installed. Germany is comparable to your home state of Alaska as far as sunlight is concerned.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ower-as-the-u-s-despite-alaska-levels-of-sun/

In the US there´s been an increase in gas production through the "Fracking" technique which is a very pollutant method that the media has not talked enough about.

This method uses a lot of water and chemicals that can contaminate water supplies. Some countries have banned it.

http://www.dangersoffracking.com/

 

[Keith]

In the US there´s been an increase in gas production through the "Fracking" technique which is a very pollutant method that the media has not talked enough about.

This method uses a lot of water and chemicals that can contaminate water supplies. Some countries have banned it.

I watched this documentary and it is disturbing to say the least...

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/

 

[GILSAN]

I watched this documentary and it is disturbing to say the least...

Pretty good documentary. Everyone should watch this I watched it on Vimeo (link below) as I was having problems watching it on your link:

http://vimeo.com/44367635#

Once again it comes back to the point I keep repeating; the Bullshit MSM should be doing investigative reporting... but since they are owned by Big Corporations, they conveniently leave out the inconvenient truths. :O

 

[JB Lions]

Once again it comes back to the point I keep repeating; the Bullshit MSM should be doing investigative reporting... but since they are owned by Big Corporations, they conveniently leave out the inconvenient truths. :O

You didn't even watch that video did you? Right at the 4 minute mark, they had a New York Times investigator go thru it, finding all kinds of problems.

 

[GILSAN]

You didn't even watch that video did you? Right at the 4 minute mark, they had a New York Times investigator go thru it, finding all kinds of problems.

Unlike you, I watched the whole fu..ing video from beginning to end. Every now and then you come here and accuse me of things you imagine I may or may not do.

Now I suggest YOU go back and see the entire video (like I did) BEYOND the 4 minute mark were the New York Times is mentioned.

 

[JB Lions]

I don't see you disagreeing with me. You were wrong, no big deal. All you have to do is (insert mainstream media + fracking) and can find all kinds of MSM articles on it. The point you keep repeating is the thing that is BS. MSNBC search:

EPA: 'Fracking' likely polluted town's water

Livestock falling ill in fracking regions

World-class brewery fears fracking will ruin product

'Fracking' chemical found in town's aquifer

endless stuff like that, MSNBC

 

[DU]

You didn't even watch that video did you? Right at the 4 minute mark, they had a New York Times investigator go thru it, finding all kinds of problems.

To be fair to GILSAN nearly all easily findable articles on this are related to the boon in jobs, the new billionaires, energy freedom, etc.

You have to read magazines like Mother Jones, Sierra magazines to read in detail how towns/lives/environments have been destroyed.

Of course those are "liberal" magazines and environmental concerns are not a "conservative" issue.

The New York Times recently put an article on "Fracking is Safe" with a leaked report from the govt somewhere after taxi cab tips are going down.... and less prominently than Miss Smith is marrying Mr Brown and will be honeymooning in Papa New Guinea.

---------- Post added at 12:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 PM ----------

World-class brewery fears fracking will ruin product

:sold:

 

[JB Lions]

To be fair to GILSAN nearly all easily findable articles on this are related to the boon in jobs, the new billionaires, energy freedom, etc.

Not really. Those article titles I posted above, page 1 Google for a search on msnbc fracking

https://www.google.com/search?q=nbc...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

You'll find pros and cons. Typical stuff you find from media, trying to get all sides of a story.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4VNGFP6qE"]Fracking Loophole Tied To Pollution Of Drinking Water - YouTube[/ame]

It's funny hearing the endless rants from Gilsan about the evil liberal mainstream media, when it's usually liberals who are up in arms about fracking, see video above on..........MSNBC/MSM. MSM video with video from Gasland, video posted above.

 

[RaiderGirl]

You have to read magazines like Mother Jones, Sierra magazines to read in detail how towns/lives/environments have been destroyed.

Of course those are "liberal" magazines and environmental concerns are not a "conservative" issue.

It's not a question of liberal or conservative, it's a question of BIAS and how these two organizations have deceived the public in the past.... If they LIED and continue to LIE about Global Warming, they'll LIE about almost anything as a means of advancing their environmental agenda.

 

[GILSAN]

I don't see you disagreeing with me. You were wrong, no big deal. All you have to do is (insert mainstream media + fracking) and can find all kinds of MSM articles on it. The point you keep repeating is the thing that is BS. MSNBC search:

EPA: 'Fracking' likely polluted town's water

Livestock falling ill in fracking regions

World-class brewery fears fracking will ruin product

'Fracking' chemical found in town's aquifer

endless stuff like that, MSNBC

Disagreeing about what? Wrong about what?
Let me write it for your convenience, what the guy said after the 4 min mark on the video:

"This isn't always the way journalism works"
"Most of the journalism out there is not investigative journalism"
"It's a "He said She said" journalism"
"If someone is in the room with the media and says that "the sky is blue" then the media reports "The Sky is Blue""
" But if someone comes at the last minute and says: Wait, wait, "The Sky is Pink" then the media's report that day is going to be "The facts are being debated""

DID YOU SKIP THAT PART?

Why don't you just give us you opinion on fracking instead of making an argument about nothing?

 

[DU]

It's not a question of liberal or conservative, it's a question of BIAS and how these two organizations have deceived the public in the past.... If they LIED and continue to LIE about Global Warming, they'll LIE about almost anything as a means of advancing their environmental agenda.

So who is your agendaless authority on such important matters?

I hate the environment too. Clean water. Getting people outside. Walking. Photography. I hate all of it.

Liars.

 

[johname]

So who is your agendaless authority on such important matters?

lol



I throw things at the tv whenever I hear people state that because of fracking nat gas we can be energy independent.

Trust me they go after the easy to get fracking first. It will be found out later that its not as easy to get as they thought it was.

Be long nat gas longterm

Better to burn Arab oil first, but that doesn't sit well with people of today.

 

[Keith]

Since this is a domain forum, lets talk domains.

Last year fracking.com expired. I contacted the owner and made a $xxxx offer because I missed the NJ auction by a day or two. The owner turned me down but never renewed the domain :lol:

 

[JB Lions]

Disagreeing about what? Wrong about what?
Let me write it for your convenience, what the guy said after the 4 min mark on the video:

"This isn't always the way journalism works"
"Most of the journalism out there is not investigative journalism"
"It's a "He said She said" journalism"
"If someone is in the room with the media and says that "the sky is blue" then the media reports "The Sky is Blue""
" But if someone comes at the last minute and says: Wait, wait, "The Sky is Pink" then the media's report that day is going to be "The facts are being debated""

DID YOU SKIP THAT PART?

Why don't you just give us you opinion on fracking instead of making an argument about nothing?

Gilsan, my responses to you have been from what I quoted:

"the Bullshit MSM should be doing investigative reporting... but since they are owned by Big Corporations, they conveniently leave out the inconvenient truths"

My next response after the one you just quoted, I proved that to be false. MSM does talk about it. Fracking is a good topic but you always go off on your MSM nonsense, that's been taken apart many times already because it's false.

As far as fracking, I'm going to trust the people/scientists behind the environment vs. a company trying to make money from it. They've already shown there have been problems with it, leaks, increased disease in those areas etc. Kind of like that movie Erin Brockovich, they should get some of that water in those areas, some of that water that catches fire, put it in a glass and have the fracking people's kids drink it, see if they're ok with that.

 

[johname]

The owner turned me down but never renewed the domain :lol:

Are you fracking serious?


(i just had to, lol)

 

[RaiderGirl]

So who is your agendaless authority on such important matters?

For starters; Scientists who aren't financed by the Federal Government OR the Oil industry.. When the US Government cuts off all funding to Climatologists and Scientists who dispute Global Warming and fully fund the ones who do support the theory, that is NOT Science.

Global Warming was proven to be fraud, why do you think they don't use the term anymore? But of course environmentalists and our Government will never admit it, doing so would cut off Trillions of potential revenue to Governments pushing for Cap and Trade, which would amount to higher energy rates for everyone rich or poor and MORE revenue for the Federal Government to waste.

 

[JB Lions]

"Global Warming was proven to be fraud"

Really? I like how you just make stuff up sometimes. And you didn't answer his question. How about some links? Links to those scientists. Be specific, what sources do you like to use on this subject, share. I want to take a look at them myself. I know you hate charts so

Seems like it's getting warmer. The debate is more, what's causing it. Man or just natural cycles.