The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Domainace]

You live in Japan, if I'm not mistaken? When's the last time you were in SF? Or for that matter, a Mumbai slum?
You always take arguments down to word usage - picking on the trees instead of looking at the forest. How about "first world country?"

I must admit I have been in a Mumbai slum more recently than I have visited San Francisco. I lived in SF, and it had its sh*thole aspects even then. But I don't know what that has to do with poop in the streets.

Word usage.... well, what else is there? I am asking for you to clarify meaning, which really upset you last time I did it. A dislike no less. What is a "first world country" then? I ask because you seem to imply that the USA is somehow too advanced/1st world/developed to have certain problems that can be found in poorer countries. From my perspective, the USA looks more and more like a developing country. It is slipping backwards. And the main reason for that is utopian social policies cynically promoted by corrupt politicians, business elite, media and other cronies. Facilitated by a gullible public.

So what is it that makes the USA special, in your opinion? Use developed, first-world, or whatever words you like, as long as the meaning is clear.

 

[mr-x]

Los Angeles is having the same problem with homeless and filth in the streets.

 

[Kate]

Worth a 2 minute read but TL:DR: A prominent feminist has been harassed and repeatedly locked out of twitter for stating the simple fact, transwomen are men. When men pretend to be women, it's bad for women.

This is the very definition of transphobia, when you deny people their own identity.
It's not up to you to decide which gender people identity to. Clearly, gender issues are above your head, like so many things, but there are people who cannot afford to live at your own slow pace of comprehension.
How would you feel if I told you you're not an American because you were born abroad, you are not White or Christian ? What is your definition of an American ? Is that a commitment to shared values or just having the right papers ? Blood ? Heritage ? Pledge of allegiance ? History ?
Fortunately I don't get a veto on your private life and personal identity, nor should you have one.

I know trans people and there is one thing they don't like: people who pretend to speak in their names, want to restrict their rights, regulate their lives, when they should mind their own.
Besides, there is two sides to a story. People who complain of censorship are often big on victimhood but short on contextualization.

 

[JB Lions]

I must admit I have been in a Mumbai slum more recently than I have visited San Francisco. I lived in SF, and it had its sh*thole aspects even then. But I don't know what that has to do with poop in the streets.

Word usage.... well, what else is there? I am asking for you to clarify meaning, which really upset you last time I did it. A dislike no less. What is a "first world country" then? I ask because you seem to imply that the USA is somehow too advanced/1st world/developed to have certain problems that can be found in poorer countries. From my perspective, the USA looks more and more like a developing country. It is slipping backwards. And the main reason for that is utopian social policies cynically promoted by corrupt politicians, business elite, media and other cronies. Facilitated by a gullible public.

So what is it that makes the USA special, in your opinion? Use developed, first-world, or whatever words you like, as long as the meaning is clear.

Another dumb, hating America post. America looks like a developing country, lol. You do understand how many people are trying to get into this country each year? Every country has it's slums, some more than others.

 

[JB Lions]

From one of the great reporters of our time:

CNN: A federal judge has denied former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos’ request to delay the start of his prison sentence. Papadopoulos must report to prison Monday to begin serving his 14 day sentence.
Jim Acosta‏Verified account @Acosta 2h2 hours ago

Member of Trump campaign who colluded with Russia will start serving his short prison sentence on Monday.

 

[mr-x]

He was charged and convicted or lying. New evidence, withheld from the Grand Jury, not made public until after his trial proves he was entrapped.

There is no collusion.

From one of the great reporters of our time:

CNN: A federal judge has denied former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos’ request to delay the start of his prison sentence. Papadopoulos must report to prison Monday to begin serving his 14 day sentence.
Jim Acosta‏Verified account @Acosta 2h2 hours ago

Member of Trump campaign who colluded with Russia will start serving his short prison sentence on Monday.

 

[mr-x]

How many of them are trying to get into SF or LA Slums? @Domainace was rightly pointing out some cities in America have problems bigger than romain lettuce

Another dumb, hating America post. America looks like a developing country, lol. You do understand how many people are trying to get into this country each year? Every country has it's slums, some more than others.

 

[JB Lions]

He was charged and convicted or lying. New evidence, withheld from the Grand Jury, not made public until after his trial proves he was entrapped.

There is no collusion.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/01/politics/papadopoulos-sessions-putin-campaign-meeting/index.html

How many of them are trying to get into SF or LA Slums? @Domainace was rightly pointing out some cities in America have problems bigger than romain lettuce

Not into slums, into America. Domainace is longtime America hater, regardless of who's President. You liked his post because you're just too gullible.

"USA looks more and more like a developing country. It is slipping backwards"

Trump is President. So you just agreed with him America is slipping backwards under Trump.

 

[mr-x]

I have sympathy for people with dysphoria but that is a mental illness, not a scientific gender.

I don't care what you do until it infringes on my rights or safety. The trans movement requires we suspend science, keep our mouths shut and celebrate their condition.

If your "human rights" infringe on my God given rights, they are not rights, they are tyranny.

This is the very definition of transphobia, when you deny people their own identity.
It's not up to you to decide which gender people identity to. Clearly, gender issues are above your head, like so many things, but there are people who cannot afford to live at your own slow pace of comprehension.
How would you feel if I told you you're not an American because you were born abroad, you are not White or Christian ? What is your definition of an American ? Is that a commitment to shared values or just having the right papers ? Blood ? Heritage ? Pledge of allegiance ? History ?
Fortunately I don't get a veto on your private life and personal identity, nor should you have one.

I know trans people and there is one thing they don't like: people who pretend to speak in their names, want to restrict their rights, regulate their lives, when they should mind their own.
Besides, there is two sides to a story. People who complain of censorship are often big on victimhood but short on contextualization.

 

[JB Lions]

If your "human rights" infringe on my God given rights, they are not rights, they are tyranny.

lol, tyranny. How is it infringing on your rights exactly?

 

[Kate]

Yes Madam.
And precisely, science is questioning your certainties.

 

[mr-x]

I don't care what you think @Domainace is or isn't. In the context of the conversation, he was correct. America has areas that are as bad as "developing" countires

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/01/politics/papadopoulos-sessions-putin-campaign-meeting/index.html



Not into slums, into America. Domainace is longtime America hater, regardless of who's President. You liked his post because you're just too gullible.

"USA looks more and more like a developing country. It is slipping backwards"

Trump is President. So you just agreed with him America is slipping backwards under Trump.

 

[mr-x]

lol, tyranny.

A progressive woman was banned from social media, livelihood attacked, barred from attending political events for having the wrong thoughts. Thoughts based in reality and science.

LOLZ.

 

[JB Lions]

A progressive woman was banned from social media, livelihood attacked, barred from attending political events for having the wrong thoughts. Thoughts based in reality and science.

LOLZ.

Somebody got banned from Twitter for rules violations, you're really a drama queen.

You're a regressive reactionary.

You brought the story here.

 

[mr-x]

Somebody got banned from Twitter for rules violations, you're really a drama queen.

You're a regressive reactionary.

You brought the story here.

I posted an article about a progressive feminist and her experience with LGBTQ activist. You minimized what happened to her because you're more interested in an argument than the truth.

 

[mr-x]

Yes Madam.
And precisely, science is questioning your certainties.

There are two genders, defined by your chromosomes at birth. That is a biological fact.

Pretending to be a lizard and worse, demanding others recognize you as a lizard, is not truthful or science.

Gender queer hypothesis formed by political advocates are not facts. Punishing people for speaking the truth b/c it disrupts your self image isn't a right, it's censorship.

 

[Kate]

I have sympathy for people with dysphoria but that is a mental illness

It is not. Besides, people said the same about homosexuality, and many people still think so I guess you are one of them ?
Thanks God science and society do not evolve at your own pace.

 

[mr-x]

It is not. Besides, people said the same about homosexuality, and many people still think so I guess you are one of them ?
Thanks God science and society do not evolve at your own pace.

How many genders are there @Kate? What scientific proof do you have to support your conclusion?

You are not the person being censored for stating scientific facts.

You wont even accept a woman's point of view that transwomen are not real women without accusing her and me of homophobia to discount our ideas as bigoted. When you run out of facts and resort to name calling it doesn't help you.

 

[offthehandle]

Conflict Ukraine and Russia

 

[enlytend]

Border patrol - F*ckers. Wind carried it hundreds of yards.
I believe in strong borders and legal asylum, but wtf? This is not who we are.