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That makes sense, except they will split their own party the same way the Republicans split. Decades of Marxist indoctrination via entertainmebnt, the media and education are finally coming to fruition.

I could be wrong but I think they are worried about their own party also. The left is has gone to far manipulating people to limit their speech and public opinions. They are attacking our society and anyone who disagrees with them.

Blatant hypocrisy of marxist groups, womens movment, blm, antifa, open borders, lgbtqxys.

Good Morning America had a feature story about an 11 year old queer transvestite, dressed as a stripper. We're supposed to accept that as normal now.

Grade school coach recently punished for refusing to watch a teenage girl undress in the boys locker room.

Expect a lurch back to the middle before 2020.


 
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and the big worry is about romaine lettuce - cooked no less! Nobody has ever died from eating cooked lettuce unless they choked on it.

I seriously doubt mr x really eats grilled salad (who does that?!) - he just had to say something to try to argue with me and that was the first idea that popped into his head. More likely he’s one who doesn’t eat salad at all.

But they have discovered heat resistant strains of E. coli. Not common (yet) but they exist and could become more common as other strains are killed off. The old food safety rule about cooking to an internal temp of 160 degrees doesn’t hold true for them.

E. coli outbreaks because of crops watered with contaminated water is a genuine concern, and something that shouldn’t happen with crops grown in a wealthy developed country. This is the second incident of people getting sick (and some dying) linked to contaminated lettuce this year.
 
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That's not true. Don't see anything trending.

You are embarrassing yourself! Lol. (to use your responses to me). To claim that because “social media” or “google trends” stats dont list Facebook shares crashing, scandals ensuing and such mean they are are not True or gospel? They censor bad publicity!, the only trend is “Trash Trump” on social media. Trump this, Trump that.

As he says he us great for CNN ratings.

Wall Street Journal and Washington Post both partisan outlets (and at risk of being put out of business by FaceBook) investigate and write huge articles over and over about the FaceBook privacy breach, the Election manipulations. Etc. Come on. 8 parliments around the world representing 300 million people are seeking answers. From a democrat perspective it seems you might take notice that 2 billion people are effected by an “American” (though socialist driven) Company known as Facebook who can have influence on THEIR elections, as a democrat you would also believe America proported to be a world leader spreading democracy, freedom of speech (though ignorantly in Iraq) is a larger force and threat to the world if they cannot stop ISIS groups using it. Or stop true racist groups threatening attacks.

If Trump calls a Democrat Shitte that is political news? His name calling like Pocahantas is amusing.

But, His shitte name calling though I disagree with and believe just like you it is wrong and unprofessional. He didnt call Mueller a Mule though or Maxine a
$&#*(. Which she deserves)

But Trump and his thing it isn’t anything but to offend a bunch of people into reacting, he is gaming you Democrats and waking up ignorant Republicans too. Its all a game that few see. It makes news, draws attention. Abnormal but for a reason to draw attention to an issue. Fake investigations from his enemies. I guess Page and Strozk that is now somehow irrelevant? Comey? McCabe? He needs to keep reminding the public about these partisan government workers illegal activities like leaking.

I agree with that Comey he should testify in public. The subject matter should be as in your face and strong as possible and regarding how messed up and gave Hillary a pass. Trey Gowdy and his crew should turn it into a spectacle like the Kavanagh hearings. Lol. The stupid Rinos should have started this months ago, but because many themselves are beholden to lobbyists or whomever inside the deep state, they ignored it.

Unlike Facebook, There are not 8 parliments requesting Donald Trump to to testify about anything that he did!. Though How many spoke up about Saudi Arabia recently? Ha.

Just the Hollywood Trump Hate groups and their “Think tank” of super IQ people like Cher and Sheen, or Impeach him Maxine Waters, and their minions within the 50% democrats (150 million) American Hillary Resist supporters want to crucify him!

The anti Trump things being posted by anyone here showing him being blown up or shot or public comments from DeNiro or Depp or Madonna border on actual hate speech. BLM who you defend is hate speech as well. Antifa, I don’t recall seeing you being against them either, maybe you are selective. I notice that a lot.

Other political non Trump issues on this thread you simply ignore and focus of Trump. All other things are Basically ignored. In fact, the way the President is being attacked is like attacks from hate groups. Never seen anything like it, then never on a forum like this either.

I ignored Obama 8 years. Except laughed when Ted Nugent spoke a few times about him caught my 30 seconds. (Go ahead an cut and paste that part out) 2009-2016 I Never listened live to even one Obama Speech including State of Union, never read, never cared, never spoke negative about him. Seems that is passive behavior. Republicans didn’t attack him like the Democrats and permanent Govt Employee Union Deep state attack Trump. Obama was the same as Clinton or Bushes, all career globalist ideologies. New World Order B.S.

I am not attempting to steer anything away from you Trump haters posting, go ahead and post Trump hate everyday, every post, all the time! Whatever, just I will continue to post things that are also political and goofy or worthy of entertainment!
 
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Stalin’s dead and gone. Show me one of our allies within the last 20 years who committed a similar state-ordered atrocity where we didn’t impose sanctions or take a strong stand against.

Myanmar.
 
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Are they technically an ally?

In any case, we had sanctions on them once for the ongoing persecution of the Rohingya, they were lifted, and we have reimposed sanctions on them since the beginning of the latest crisis, frozen the assets of the military leader responsible, and recently added to the amount of humanitarian aid we're providing to the refugees. In imposing the most recent sanctions, they referred to it as "ethnic cleansing."

A stronger response than "maybe they did, maybe they didn't."
 
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Less people die from eating lettuce than die from falling in the bathtub. Are you going to demand every bathtub have rubberized walls and hand-rails?

You want apple farmers in WA to follow the same water testing rules as farms that specialize in leafy veggies. It's dumb.

Veggie farmers already test for e-coli. In the article you posted, they suspect the lettuce was contaminated during processing and packaging. Maybe start in there instead of forcing every farm in America.

I seriously doubt mr x really eats grilled salad (who does that?!) - he just had to say something to try to argue with me and that was the first idea that popped into his head. More likely he’s one who doesn’t eat salad at all.

But they have discovered heat resistant strains of E. coli. Not common (yet) but they exist and could become more common as other strains are killed off. The old food safety rule about cooking to an internal temp of 160 degrees doesn’t hold true for them.

E. coli outbreaks because of crops watered with contaminated water is a genuine concern, and something that shouldn’t happen with crops grown in a wealthy developed country. This is the second incident of people getting sick (and some dying) linked to contaminated lettuce this year.
 
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Asia Bibi and the First Freedom
Column: Why hasn't she been granted asylum?
https://freebeacon.com/columns/asia-bibi-first-freedom/

Asia Bibi got into an argument with her co-workers and ended up in jail. Bibi is a Pakistani Catholic and mother of five. She cannot read. For years, she picked fruit in her rural village. One day in June 2009, her peers refused to share a pitcher of water with her because she is a Christian. She argued with them, muttering some caustic words about the founder of Islam. They responded by accusing her of blasphemy: a capital crime in Pakistan. The next year she was sentenced to death row.
 
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Weird non of this came up before the election...
 
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Are they technically an ally?

In any case, we had sanctions on them once for the ongoing persecution of the Rohingya, they were lifted, and we have reimposed sanctions on them since the beginning of the latest crisis, frozen the assets of the military leader responsible, and recently added to the amount of humanitarian aid we're providing to the refugees. In imposing the most recent sanctions, they referred to it as "ethnic cleansing."

A stronger response than "maybe they did, maybe they didn't."

Myanmar is another mess, but other than economic sanctions seems crazy to get involved. I question everytime checks are sent for “humanitarian aid” doled out. So many scandals and corruption.

The world will always be full of dictators and power hungry animals wearing funny hats. We have 3 in our Hemisphere now. Already sanctioned Maduro, Ortega and Raul... No reason the American Taxpayer need to pay to annililate them as in the past.

Like I said before all wars are over “Conversion or Covenance”. Even the USA, thinking they can convert non democracys to democracy. Stupidity. Vietnam, horrible mess. Afghanistan and Iraq is the largest most expensive failure in modern time, fell under Republican “Leadership”.

I have just as little respect for most “normal” politicians increasing size of govt and debt including either Bush (Cheney, DHS and Patriot act) as I do the Clintons (China), Obama (Obamacare), and Carter ( high interest rates, had a 12.8% loan)

As it might surprise, Reagan IMO was no hero either. Though lessor of all mistaken decisions of the past 5, I could even argue his economic decisions ruined my ability to make a living back then and changed careers meanwhile his Mansion in Bel Air was donated to him by his lobbyist friends. Congress didnt enforce the immigration fines for employers hiring illegals after 1st amnesty back then. Talk about “Collusion” between both Rep and Dem parties against Tax paying Citizens.
 
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I could be wrong but I think they are worried about their own party also. The left is has gone to far manipulating people to limit their speech and public opinions.

That's the nice thing about extremists. They eventually turn on their own. That bad thing is that they may only get around to that after destroying everyone else.

So far as "heat resistant" e-coli and the murder at the Saudi embassy in Turkey, it's completely disingenuous to select those things to worry about in the current wold situation.

E. coli outbreaks because of crops watered with contaminated water is a genuine concern, and something that shouldn’t happen with crops grown in a wealthy developed country.

Getting the picture, I hope? Developed country? There is more human waste on the streets in the heart of San Francisco than there is in many Mumbai slums. What does that say about the culture and governance of a wealthy country that they would enable this? What makes the US a developed country anyway? Sure, there are nice areas, but there are some real sh*tholes as well. I could say the same about most developing countries as well. What makes the USA developed?
 
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That's the nice thing about extremists. They eventually turn on their own. That bad thing is that they may only get around to that after destroying everyone else.

haha, this guy. Fringe right nutters. Protecting the environment, affordable healthcare, ooh watch out now, scary leftists, lol.
 
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The Christian Christmas season at European #ChristmasMarkets in 2018...
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Religion of peace? Berlin’s Christmas market now looks like a military base...
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There is more human waste on the streets in the heart of San Francisco than there is in many Mumbai slums. What does that say about the culture and governance of a wealthy country that they would enable this? What makes the US a developed country anyway? Sure, there are nice areas, but there are some real sh*tholes as well.

You live in Japan, if I'm not mistaken? When's the last time you were in SF? Or for that matter, a Mumbai slum?
You always take arguments down to word usage - picking on the trees instead of looking at the forest. How about "first world country?"
As for the E coli discussion, maybe read back to the beginning of that so you know what the conversation was about.
 
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Two words: Poop.app

You live in Japan, if I'm not mistaken? When's the last time you were in SF? Or for that matter, a Mumbai slum?
You always take arguments down to word usage - picking on the trees instead of looking at the forest. How about "first world country?"
As for the E coli discussion, maybe read back to the beginning of that so you know what the conversation was about.
 
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Progressive Feminist Suspended From Twitter After Criticizing The Transgender Movement
https://www.dailywire.com/news/38669/progressive-feminist-suspended-twitter-after-frank-camp

Worth a 2 minute read but TL:DR: A prominent feminist has been harassed and repeatedly locked out of twitter for stating the simple fact, transwomen are men. When men pretend to be women, it's bad for women.

The LGBTQ mafia has targeted her advertisers, events and social media account. She has realized the only people willing to report and talk with her on the subject are conservatives.
 
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There is more human waste on the streets in the heart of San Francisco

You forgot to include living waste inside Facebook and Google headquarters a few miles south in the Silicon swamp.
 
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Well spent $200 on Roger Waters tickets way up in nosebleed section in a large stadium to take my girlfriend to hear Pink Floyd. I missed them in LA in 70’s, were always sold out. I have never spent this sort of money recently for any concerts and unfortunately, it was last minute thing and no plans before hand research. I did check out the set list, most PF songs from 70’s, which was great, at least I thought. The lights, projection and graphics awesome. Some sound was surround, sub woofers and FOH sound decent for a huge stadium. However, the mix of the Gilmour composed lead guitar parts played by hired guns were not up in the mix (Mr. ego bass player?).

So, what does have to do with Politics? The entire concert was more about the RESIST movement mixed in a Rock concert. @JB Lions you would have been smiling ear to ear and enjoying it. I would never have gone had I known ahead of time. Complete show interspersed was images of Trump vomiting, Trump and KKK iconic graphics and written things Trump has said, and filled sound bites with political crap.

I never liked the Animals LP which was sort of political but not targeted but that part was where most of it was. I came to be entertained, not lectured.

There were about 25 slides during intermission. Each had a string of text. “Resist Trump and Bolton”, Also “resist Mark Zuckerberg”, so had to laugh. So just about every right wing conservative like Le Pen, Farage, the guy from Australia, anybody conservative around the world was targeted “to resist”. I doubt most normal people cared or even knew the names. The crowd was mostly under age 30, surprisingly as that would never happen in the states, only over age 45 probably.

When “Money” came up in the set, Trumps casino, etc. lol. Not one image or photo of Crooked Hillary. Though other G20 World leaders, Putin, May, Macron, even mentioned Bolernero.

First ever political filled message concert... and the last I will ever attend. I will post some photos later. Really pathetic, especially for an audience who wasn’t North American but Latin American and pretty apolitical, calm, peaceful and orderly- not one fight, yelling, etc. It was 85% political propaganda, that was mixed in “Art”. Now I know why David Gilmour, the genius guitarist and song writer won’t tour with him and allow the thing to be called Pink Floyd.
 
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