The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[GILSAN]

Stickers were done professionally in a print shop.

 

[offthehandle]

Yeah but this is neither a car nor a commercial vehicle. It's full of pro Trump propaganda, that would probably get vandalized in no time at all in an area Broward County...

Like that photo You posted from the Truck from Oregon last week

 

[Kate]

To be a Bomber, wouldn't you need to have at least one bomb explode? lol

Wannabomber ?

 

[JB Lions]

Twitter has removed many people from my account and, more importantly, they have seemingly done something that makes it much harder to join - they have stifled growth to a point where it is obvious to all. A few weeks ago it was a Rocket Ship, now it is a Blimp! Total Bias?
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4h

Typical conspiracy playbook. Hint at something, no details whatsoever. Let people's minds run wild.
"seemingly done something that makes it much harder to join".

This is what he was crying about:

https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/realdonaldtrump

Couple of days it went down, Twitter probably doing some cleanup. Today he's up 15,000+ already. So the harder to join comment is nonsense. He's like a kid, caring about his social media count.
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Republicans are doing so well in early voting, and at the polls, and now this “Bomb” stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows - news not talking politics. Very unfortunate, what is going on. Republicans, go out and vote!

Just reading the comments on this, not going over well.

 

[lennco]

To be a Bomber, wouldn't you need to have at least one bomb explode? lol

Johnny Depp sends out bombs all the time and none of then have ever exploded.

 

[JB Lions]

U.S. invites Putin to Washington, but says get out of Ukraine
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ad...ted-putin-washington-091302246--business.html

More pics coming out, at a Trump rally

 

[mr-x]

Out of curiosity, which ones ? Do you have a credible source ?

From memory, Thailand, Singapore, Russia, I think Czechoslovakia and Poland. He's a notorious currency manipulator and has brought pain and misery to entire countries.

When you have time, Please name one hospital or water reclamation plant mr soros has funded / built.

Although I suspect there is always an excuse for bashing Soros, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Just to reinforce the point that he has a very baaaaaaaadddddd man, because he did this and that. Like when he successfully bet against the Pound and made a lot of money he is a very bad man and evil speculator, but Trump massively cheating on taxes is a hero.

I'm not saying one should love him, but demonizing people like that is just wrong.
What you're saying looks like a pathetic attempts to justify all those zany conspiracy theories floating around about Soros.


No no what I'm saying is based upon what he says and does, plus my studying of History. You should read some history books.

Have you noticed how your country suddenly looks like Russia ?

WUT??

Opponents receiving death threats, then explosive devices to their homes. This is a new low. This is what happens when leaders stoke hatred - some people feel emboldened to act because they think what they are doing is ok and even endorsed at the very top.

I said something like this would happen months ago, based on the outrageous accusations, lies and violent threats against President Trump.

You incite your fringe and the other's responds.

Look into the mirror Mr X. This is what you voted for. Not me.

You don't vote.

 

[JB Lions]

When you have time, Please name one hospital or water reclamation plant mr soros has funded / built.

Seriously. He has a whole list of things he has funded/built. Throw that all away and try to find something he hasn't, then ask that question? Is he supposed to fund everything in this world?

Posted some of it earlier:

• $2.9 billion to defend human rights, especially the rights of women; ethnic, racial, and religious minorities; drug users; sex workers; and LGBTQ communities;
• $2.1 billion for education;
• $1.6 billion on developing democracy in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union;
• $1.5 billion in the United States to promote reform in criminal justice, drug policy, palliative care, education, immigration, equal rights, and democratic governance;
• $737 million for public health issues such as HIV and AIDS, TB, palliative care, harm reduction, and patients' rights;
• $214 million to advance the rights of Roma communities in Europe.

Which of that do you have an issue with?

 

[mr-x]

I don't see a lot of political causes, no hospitals, water reclamation plants or roads. Very little that makes life better for poor people. Lot of divisive politics.

Seriously. He has a whole list of things he has funded/built. Throw that all away and try to find something he hasn't, then ask that question? Is he supposed to fund everything in this world?

Posted some of it earlier:

• $2.9 billion to defend human rights, especially the rights of women; ethnic, racial, and religious minorities; drug users; sex workers; and LGBTQ communities;
• $2.1 billion for education;
• $1.6 billion on developing democracy in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union;
• $1.5 billion in the United States to promote reform in criminal justice, drug policy, palliative care, education, immigration, equal rights, and democratic governance;
• $737 million for public health issues such as HIV and AIDS, TB, palliative care, harm reduction, and patients' rights;
• $214 million to advance the rights of Roma communities in Europe.

 

[JB Lions]

I don't see a lot of political causes, no hospitals / water reclamation plants or roads.

You skipped the question, is he supposed to fund everything? What part of the list to you have a problem with? He has funded all kinds of health. Roads?

What has Trump funded? Golf courses and hotels.

This is bad?
$737 million for public health issues such as HIV and AIDS, TB, palliative care, harm reduction, and patients' rights;

Soros didn't build a rocket, didn't invest in lawn care businesses or pizza joints, he's a bad man.

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"Very little that makes life better for poor people."

So human rights, education, public health, criminal justice reform etc. doesn't make life better for poor people? You guys were excited when Kanye met with Trump about criminal justice reform.

• $2.9 billion to defend human rights, especially the rights of women; ethnic, racial, and religious minorities; drug users; sex workers; and LGBTQ communities;
• $2.1 billion for education;
• $1.6 billion on developing democracy in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union;
• $1.5 billion in the United States to promote reform in criminal justice, drug policy, palliative care, education, immigration, equal rights, and democratic governance;
• $737 million for public health issues such as HIV and AIDS, TB, palliative care, harm reduction, and patients' rights;
• $214 million to advance the rights of Roma communities in Europe.

 

[Kate]

From memory, Thailand, Singapore, Russia, I think Czechoslovakia and Poland.

Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993 so that must be old stuff.
But you said he was "banned from trading" in some countries, I would likely to clarify what happened. Since you mentioned this, probably you know more than I do on the subject.
Can you at least provide a link ?
I see that he bid against the Thai baht two decades ago, but I am not aware of Thailand banning him from trading. Some fringe sites say he started the Asian financial crisis but those claims don't make sense.

He's a notorious currency manipulator and has brought pain and misery to entire countries.

Hmm interesting, surely you can tell me more about the pain and misery he brought to entire countries and how. Facts please.

When you have time, Please name one hospital or water reclamation plant mr soros has funded / built.

I don't think his ventures are funding infrastructure. Should they ? Your point is ?

You don't vote.

That's right. I don't vote in the US elections because I am not a US national.
I think it's bad not to vote. But voting against your own interests is stupid.

 

[JB Lions]

You guys are making me read more about him, I'm just getting more impressed:

Soros began his philanthropy in 1979, giving scholarships to black South Africans under apartheid.

He was one of the early prominent voices to criticize the war on drugs as “arguably more harmful than the drug problem itself,” and helped kick-start America’s medical marijuana movement.

In the early 2000s, he became a vocal backer of same-sex marriage efforts.

I'm good with all of that. I know the same-sex marriage some in this thread might have been against.

 

[mr-x]

What about Donald Trump!! ?? I don't remember Donald Trump making billions, manipulating currencies and bankrupting entire countries.

Donald Trump builds golf courses and hotels because he's a real estate developer. I can't remember anyone calling him a philanthropist.

 

[JB Lions]

What about Donald Trump!! ?? I don't remember Donald Trump making billions, manipulating currencies and bankrupting entire countries.

Donald Trump builds golf courses and hotels because he's a real estate developer. I can't remember anyone calling him a philanthropist.

Ah. Think about what you just posted. I don't ever remember people talking about Soros as some real estate developer, road builder. You actually posted roads.

No, Trump has just ripped people off with his fraud University and Foundation.

I'm still wondering from what I posted above, the things Soros has contributed to, that you have a problem with? You've been skipping that.

You have some blind hate towards him based on years of hate/propaganda.

If Soros was a Trump supporter? Think about that. You guys would be here talking about what a great man he was, the great things he's done.

Liberals have no problem with evil men, as long as they're giving money to liberals.

Really didn't touch anything I've posted. Evil? What above is evil? Trump supporters: Philanthropist = evil

 

[mr-x]

Liberals have no problem with evil men, as long as they're giving money to liberals.

Ah. Think about what you just posted. I don't ever remember people talking about Soros as some real estate developer, road builder. You actually posted roads.

No, Trump has just ripped people off with his fraud University and Foundation.

I'm still wondering from what I posted above, the things Soros has contributed to, that you have a problem with? You've been skipping that.

Deliberately obtuse? I don't care what you think of GS or President Trump.

My point was GS philanthropy is overwhelmingly political. He has a political agenda, he doesn't work to make life better for poor people.

Added after I answered.

Liberals didn't have a problem with Harvey Weinstein raping people until it was exposed and they couldn't ignore it.

Trump's a SOB but he OUR SOB.

 

[mr-x]

Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993 so that must be old stuff.

It was old stuff.. The Asian countries I was trying to remember, Malaysia and Thailand. You'll have to do your own research if you dont' believe me ( or the Prime Minister ).

in Thailand he was called an “economic war criminal.”

But you said he was "banned from trading" in some countries, I would likely to clarify what happened. Since you mentioned this, probably you know more than I do on the subject.
Can you at least provide a link ?
I see that he bid against the Thai baht two decades ago, but I am not aware of Thailand banning him from trading. Some fringe sites say he started the Asian financial crisis but those claims don't make sense.

Hmm interesting, surely you can tell me more about the pain and misery he brought to entire countries and how. Facts please.

I don't think his ventures are funding infrastructure. Should they ? Your point is ?


That's right. I don't vote in the US elections because I am not a US national.
I think it's bad not to vote. But voting against your own interests is stupid.

 

[Kate]

In formerly-democratic Hungary the obsession with Soros is such that they even feature him on billboards, as part of a massive smear campaign, funded by the tax payer of course.
Shooting the messenger: EU must respond to Hungary's lies

The current PM Orbán was the recipient of a Soros-funded scholarship to study in the UK back in the 80s.

By the way, @mr-x, Soros donated $1M to help clean up an environmental disaster in his home country:
How the Hungarian town flooded by red toxic sludge went green
On the other hand, your beloved president and his administration do not care about the environment, and dismantle the already weak protections. The US is the only country actively boycotting the fight against climate change. Your anger is misplaced.
But but but but Soros is not funding water reclamation plants. Seriously.

Soros' crime is that he simply advocated for humane treatment of refugees, a stance that is at odds with the far-right regime ruling in Budapest. I am not mincing my words: Hungary is a genuinely fascist state today, even EU member countries are admitting it's no longer a real democracy, and they are taking stock of the situation.

The point is, people attacking Soros and his foundations are the far-right, so you have to question their arguments and their motives.
Of course, he is the perfect target, he is Jew, he is a big trader who made a lot of money, and he promotes a liberal agenda.
But there are other traders like him, who don't get this kind of attention and hatred.

It was old stuff.. The Asian countries I was trying to remember, Malaysia and Thailand. You'll have to do your own research if you dont' believe me ( or the Prime Minister ).

in Thailand he was called an “economic war criminal.”

By who ? Mahathir Mohamad ? He seems to have changed his mind.
I am still trying to find those countries where you say he is banned from trading. Cut to the chase please. You are not helping me a lot. Just one reliable source, I am not asking for a lengthy essay from you.

 

[mr-x]

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No one is all bad or all good. I don't like GS because he uses he money to manipulate the markets and Gov's.

I'm a conservative libertarian . He's a globalist.

You think he good for giving lots of money to political causes and small amounts to help people he finds politically appealing.

I think he's bad because he uses he money to manipulate, instead of helping poor people where they need it most. Food, jobs, healthcare.

 

[johname]

I am glad this has been cleared up

Kirstjen Nielsen Says U.S. Has No Intention Of Shooting Caravan Migrants

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...shooting-migrants_us_5bd2ea8fe4b0a8f17ef6772d

 

[offthehandle]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/26/politics/donald-trump-statement-bomb/index.html

I see CNN is stoking fear that ALL Americans have anxiety, that sort of reporting is why it's called fake news. You think somebody in Nebraska or Iowa cares that much or is "Scared", please. CNN is like calling fire in a theatre. They twist the situation as usual to their narrative. The democrats are unable to sit still for the past year and causing vandalism and riots, and this incident of a wacko of fake bombs is supposed to be huge? Only because it was sent to Democrats.

"It was the latest sign of the President's reluctance to put politics aside to fulfill expectations many Americans have for the role of the President at a time of national anxiety."


Here is the real news today at the White House:

https://nypost.com/2018/10/23/trump-invites-young-black-conservatives-to-white-house/

President Trump has invited hundreds of young black conservative leaders to the White House Friday to hear him speak, The Post has learned.

The president will address attendees of the first ever Young Black Leadership Summit, being put on by conservative student group, Turning Point USA.

It’s not a big surprise that Trump would take a breather from his bustling rally schedule to address the young people – he’s shown support for the group in the past – and there’s a Kanye West connection.

Charlie Kirk, Turning Point’s 25-year-old founder and president, interviewed Trump in March as part of the “Generation Next” forum, a day’s worth of programming in the Eisenhower Office Building for young conservative leaders.

And in May, the president tweeted his approval of the group’s 29-year-old Director of Communications Candace Owens.