The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[RogueWriter]

Very Presidential of him, selling his mug shot on a T-shirt. It's like they don't even want to win a National Election. There's nothing media savvy or adult about it, it's just stupid.

What he should have done was make a fierce comment about bad people beheading our citizens, then walk onto a golf course 4 minutes later for a round with his buds.

 

[JB Lions]

What he should have done was make a fierce comment about bad people beheading our citizens, then walk onto a golf course 4 minutes later for a round with his buds.

I agree, it's not a good look but he actually goes on less vacations than previous Presidents and we're in the age of Communication, it's not like he's cut off. Right after 9/11, really isn't a great time to be hanging out on the ranch.

"Since becoming president, Obama has taken 20 vacations lasting two to 15 days. As of Aug. 12, he spent all or part of 138 days on "vacation."

By the same point in his second term, President George W. Bush spent 381 partial or complete days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, and another 26 days at the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, according to CBS News reporter Mark Knoller's widely respected record keeping on the presidency. Other recent American leaders also spent more time away."

That's a lot time away for Bush, while fighting the "War on Terror"

http://news.msn.com/us/obama-taking-less-vacation-but-too-much-for-some

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rpton-defends-obama-family-vacation-saying-g/

 

[RogueWriter]

Yeah, not really interested in seeing comparisons about Bush, he's been retired for 6 years, and I doubt he would have had the nerve to walk onto a golf course like that.

 

[JB Lions]

Yeah, not really interested in seeing comparisons about Bush, he's been retired for 6 years, and I doubt he would have had the nerve to walk onto a golf course like that.

Yeah, he would never do that

The vacations and golf playing have always been silly things to bring up since they ALL do that. It's one of those wash issues. But it gets traffic (which means ad revenue) to the Conservative blogs, which is the point. If people want to be outraged by it, it should be across the board, with all the Presidents. You either have a problem with it or you don't.

 

[Theo Goodman]

"I fight it."

Thanks for that deep response, minus any actual examples. How do you fight you not wanting to pay taxes? Or the police etc.? Just don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with it, why don't you just do that?

"the NP internet liberal"

Depends what we're talking about:
Socially - very liberal/libertarian
Economics - moderate/conservative
Crime - extremely conservative

"He said all that needed to be said, he understands that a nation state is all about the monopoly of violence."

Where is the full video? You didn't even bother to search on what he said, did you? You just like posting out of context clips, not understanding what you're posting? Was he just talking about Max Weber's theory on the subject, talking about Republicans as some have said, what?

Yes, I do enjoy posting legit sources of information, while you use a lot of nutty, tin foil types. If we're talking about 9/11, I'll use legit sources like - http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842. You'll use some high school kids YouTube video. When the Unemployment Rate dips into the 5's, I'm going to post about it. You'll follow up with some nut using some different system nobody uses. I use the Official Numbers. The numbers used when Bush, for most of his time in office, had good numbers, until the last year when it was in a free fall. The numbers used against Obama when it was over 8. But when it started going down, now all of a sudden you don't want to use those numbers. The same numbers both parties use.

I remember the name now.....Shadow Stats, haha. Plenty of sites tearing them right up. Maybe you'll use that one again or find something new, and just forget that Official Stats exist.

It's so bad with you, I remember our conversation about the plane hitting the Pentagon during 9/11 and you actually tried to debate that, saying "Video, pictures, debris and witnesses can all be manipulated to paint a picture how you want."

I understand why you hate debunkers and debunk type sites. Because it's usually qualified people in their fields, taking apart some of the nonsense you like to read.

Thanks for your deep response. I am not going to post some kind of activist cv. There are times and places for some tactics.

I dont have the full video and again that is not the point. The point is that he understands what a nation state is about , im sure both parties agree.
Anything that does not fit your view is tinfoil.
What high school video did I post?
Primarly I think the investigation done by the 911 commsion needs to be reopened. It is impossible to even speak about 911at all due to your knee jerk reactions.
We have already been over this withunemployment. First of all the "offical" number Iis one of many tracked by the goverment. It does not account for many that do not have a job. Both parties use these numbers. "shadow stats" simply uses the old way the unemployment rate was calulated which was also used by both parties. I guess pointing this out makes me a tinfoil head. "plenty of sites tearing him up" yes and most are opionated sites posing as "debunkers" with a vested interest in traffic and link bait really legit stuff there. Plenty of sites tearing up the "offical" unemployment rate.
Of course video and debris cand be edited or planted -can-
Doest mean they were.
It is so bad with you that anyone that simply questions your preset world view is a tinfoil head. The stuff you read and watch makes you so insecure that you feel the need to but people in a compartment.

 

[JB Lions]

"There are times and places for some tactics."

Ah, you're deep underground. Fight the Power. Of course, your tactic of posting that on the internet isn't too smart, with the German Government spying and all. But we both know there isn't anything there in the first place, so nothing to worry about.

"Primarly I think the investigation done by the 911 commsion needs to be reopened."

Yes, that does not surprise me at all. "Truthers" just can't let it go. Why? Do you think there is stuff they missed, new evidence? They went thru it all.

You know the title of the book from the link I posted, very fitting:

Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts

The 9/11 stuff is done. It's almost 13 years ago and you still want more of it.

Even your avatar with the Eye of Providence and all the New World Order conspiracy theories with it. You're really into this stuff.

 

[Theo Goodman]

"There are times and places for some tactics."

Ah, you're deep underground. Fight the Power. Of course, your tactic of posting that on the internet isn't too smart, with the German Government spying and all. But we both know there isn't anything there in the first place, so nothing to worry about.

"Primarly I think the investigation done by the 911 commsion needs to be reopened."

Yes, that does not surprise me at all. "Truthers" just can't let it go.

yes your reaction does not surprise me knee jerk damage reaction.
Yea im so underground that im using my real name here. Use search to find things im involved in. Smart Obama Hillary heads should be able to search the interwebs with master ability to find the needed context of Obama breaking down state violence.
My avatar is a more of a joke as if the real goal of bitcoin is a nsa plan to create a world currency with a public ledger -the all seeing eye. Your avatar should show that you are a real badass that needs to show of his bad assness online.
A book? Hahahahahahaha someone trying to sell a book.

 

[GILSAN]

Viva Carrie Prejean

 

[JB Lions]

Viva Carrie Prejean

You forgot one:

"Islamic sexual jurisprudence and sexuality in Islam is largely described by the Quran, the sayings of Muhammad (hadith) and the rulings of religious leaders' (fatwa) as being confined to marital relationships between men and women."

It matches perfectly.

Carrie and Gilsan, spreading Islam throughout the world and of course her masturbation video floating around the internet.

I've always been interested in a Conservative's view on that. Maybe somebody can address it. You do realize your views on social issues, like the one Gilsan just posted about, are pretty much in line with Radical Islam or even just your garden variety Islam?

 

[GILSAN]

According to BO, I have no future

Still no Muslim protests against ISIS atrocities

 

[johname]

Jihadi John, Rapper identified as James Foley's executioner: reports

http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-...leys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

 

[GILSAN]

Jihadi John, Rapper identified as James Foley's executioner: reports

http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-...leys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

Bastard. They should hang him by the balls and then feed him to the vultures.

 

[verbster]

According to BO, I have no future

I was going to reply how this is a perfect example of blatantly using a quote out of context just for a petty cheap shot. . . . until I saw the nutcase end-of-days website you got it from and apparently support. That explains a lot.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/25/remarks-president-un-general-assembly

 

[GILSAN]

I was going to reply how this is a perfect example of blatantly using a quote out of context just for a petty cheap shot. . . . until I saw the nutcase end-of-days website you got it from and apparently support. That explains a lot.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/25/remarks-president-un-general-assembly

I have no idea what you're talking about

 

[verbster]

I have no idea what you're talking about

Okay. The above photo of Obama, where you said, "According to BO, I have no future." That out of context quote came from a speech to the United Nations. It appears you borrowed it from NowTheEndBegins.com (look next to Obama's lapel flag). Their site is slightly warped.

 

[fryan0]

"ONE day you'll see the truth"
**In Afganishtan there is mines which can product ore, read this wikipedia "Mining in Afghanistan"
**In Irak there is mines which can product ore, read this "Mining in Irak"

is it the truth that saddam husein make biological weapon?? the answer "Never found biological weapon"! is it the truth that WTC destroyed by Plane??? the answer "No Evidence, only video" !!!; The questions: Did you ever saw MOVIES HOLLYWOOD??? is the place and actions real or COMPUTER maker???
***answer with your heart, and with your brain".

I believe everyone have heart, People want live in a peace.
Everyone have own different, have own culture, HUMAN isn't perfect person, if you wanna know people, try life with them so you'll understand. I Believe, no one want a WAR. except if you want to take some something from them....

***** PRAY for PEACE *****​

 

[verbster]

is it the truth that WTC destroyed by Plane??? the answer "No Evidence, only video" !!!; is the place and actions real or COMPUTER maker???

Oh boy. Not good.

 

[RogueWriter]

Yeah, he would never do that

So, which one of those pictures of George was taken 4 minutes after speaking his outrage on an American citizen being beheaded? So, in that sense, yeah he never did that.

 

[verbster]

So, which one of those pictures of George was taken 4 minutes after speaking his outrage on an American citizen being beheaded? So, in that sense, yeah he never did that.

What Obama did was not good. But if you want to compare reactions to events, what Bush did after being told of planes crashing into the WTC and that "America was under attack" was not his finest hour either.

 

[GILSAN]

Okay. The above photo of Obama, where you said, "According to BO, I have no future." That out of context quote came from a speech to the United Nations. It appears you borrowed it from NowTheEndBegins.com (look next to Obama's lapel flag). Their site is slightly warped.

That's the first time I heard of that site and yes I did find that Photo there and an interesting article about Obama's 20 quotes about Islam and 20 quotes about Cristianity, that I'd never seen before:
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=15200

Oh and BTW I got that Photo of Obama (with the quotes) from Facebook, just like the one below:

BTW, why is their site slightly warped? because you don't like it, or because you don't like the content in it.

Since I don't know the site I can't make a judgment