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4. US Political views, No Religious views
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I must have been imagining all the America is a police state stuff from you then (sarcasm).

I just watched the video of the arrest in McDonalds. They were arrested for not listening to police officers that were clearing the place. Did you watch the video? And then with the dramatics, I got slammed into the soda fountain, my head slammed into the window. Yet, no injuries. Or the part where he says, Please don't wave your gun at me. I didn't see any gun waving. About the 6 and 14 second mark, twice. More dramatic bs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e25c0e-2359-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

Read the comments.

"If you watch the video, it's pretty clear the reporters are being purposefully obtuse in hopes of getting a reaction."

"Not complying but verbally resisting? Jail, but oh wait, you were there only 15 minutes? This is a stupid non-story. Doesn't the Post have real news to report on other than intentionally staged scandals?"

"I bet you thought you'd get sympathy from your readers. You and your little friend were not complying and you both got what you deserved."

And the guy in the van:
"โ€œIโ€™m going to die!โ€ he screamed. โ€œIโ€™m going to die! I canโ€™t breathe! Iโ€™m going to die!โ€"

Oh brother.

This is more of the stuff that we've talked about before. Reporters or groups going to places, trying to get a reaction. Just a reporter trying to make a name for himself, and you ate it up, hook, line and sinker. And they got let out shortly after. Maybe next time instead of arguing or whipping out the camera to record, they'll just comply? If he did, none of this would have happened, but then there wouldn't be a story. Get it?

You see this type of stuff on Live Leak all the time.

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Charging a laptop at MCD is not really being purposefully obtuse, the cop came to them, not the other way around. Why were reporters being asked to leave mc donalds? did McD call the cops? Great those comenters have there own opinon, I disagree with their opinions. There were many other cases ,for example the cops just commanding people on loudspeakers to stop filming. This doesnt mean that there is a police state in the USA, this means that the cops dont want people to film everything even though they have a right to. Let us not forget about the massive Homeland Security effort in social media, which would include such commenting. I am not saying that those comments came from HS however their large effort in commenting on blogs is documented. We know who the WP guy is, we do not know who the comenters are.


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I must have been imagining all the America is a police state stuff from you then (sarcasm)."

I must have been imagining that someone will agree with anything the goverment(when dem in power) say or cops do(sarcasm).

Talking about police and the monopoly of violence is not claming that there is a police state ,currently. It also does no good to say that there is or isnt a police state when we have not agreed on what one is.

Obama gets it, and I agree with what he says in this video


You're bringing nothing new here. I think most of your views, just reflect a lot of your own obedience. You have it set in your mind that police, Obama and the USA are good and only look for stuff supporting that, closing.
 
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Charging a laptop at MCD is not really being purposefully obtuse, the cop came to them, not the other way around. Why were reporters being asked to leave mc donalds? did McD call the cops? Great those comenters have there own opinon, I disagree with their opinions. There were many other cases ,for example the cops just commanding people on loudspeakers to stop filming. This doesnt mean that there is a police state in the USA, this means that the cops dont want people to film everything even though they have a right to. Let us not forget about the massive Homeland Security effort in social media, which would include such commenting. I am not saying that those comments came from HS however their large effort in commenting on blogs is documented. We know who the WP guy is, we do not know who the comenters are.


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I must have been imagining all the America is a police state stuff from you then (sarcasm)."

I must have been imagining that someone will agree with anything the goverment(when dem in power) say or cops do(sarcasm).

Talking about police and the monopoly of violence is not claming that there is a police state ,currently. It also does no good to say that there is or isnt a police state when we have not agreed on what one is.

Obama gets it, and I agree with what he says in this video


You're bringing nothing new here. I think most of your views, just reflect a lot of your own obedience. You have it set in your mind that police, Obama and the USA are good and only look for stuff supporting that, closing.

Oh, Theo, the NP internet anarchist, please share with everybody how you fight the power. Do you not pay your taxes in Germany? Do you disobey the Polizei? Or you just watch videos and post on the internet? You were ranting and raving earlier in the thread about taxes, how the government is stealing from you, so what do you do about? Bend over and take it? Or do you fight it?

And I still don't think you watched the video, since you didn't comment on the specific aspects of it. It wasn't just charging a laptop, it was taking your time, trying to purposely antagonize a police officer, somebody just doing their job, in hopes of getting a reaction. Is that all it takes to impress you? Some douchebag reporter that was lying in the video?

As far as the video you just posted, you really didn't add much. 7 seconds? Can you post the full video for me, for context sake, or does that matter to you? Get a little more in depth with it. What was he talking about? Were they his views? What? Give me context.

As far as my views/obedience, my natural self is not a criminal one. I have no reason to disobey a police officer when they're asking something reasonable. I'm fine with civil disobedience and breaking unjust laws, like women's rights, civil rights, gay rights etc. But something that would be a worthwhile fight, hanging out at Mickey D's isn't one of them. That just made the reporter look like an ass to me.

And I actually agree with sdsinc on this - "I don't think you are allowed to go to Cuba in normal circumstances" I always thought that was stupid, it's not my beef. I think people should be able to travel wherever the hell they want to go. Americans can but it's very strict via a few companies that do people-to-people educational exchange programs and you have to stay on a tight itinerary, can't just wander off on your own. I don't see what we've accomplished since imposing those restrictions back in 1960.
 
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maybe I'm wrong, but I'm more worried about the loss of personal freedom via an Internet police state. It will be much more personal and far reaching...maybe.
 
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maybe I'm wrong, but I'm more worried about the loss of personal freedom via an Internet police state. It will be much more personal and far reaching...maybe.

You should worry less.

I'm fine with civil disobedience and breaking unjust laws, like women's rights, civil rights, gay rights etc. But something that would be a worthwhile fight, hanging out at Mickey D's isn't one of them. That just made the reporter look like an ass to me.
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ws are unjust? Or do you determine what is fine? Shall I ask Gilsan if he believes that gay rights are unjust?
You can't understand the world if you don't leave the prism through which you personally view the world.

Yes but you certainly weren't there so I don't believe you really can know that much. I think the reporter who was there would know far more about what happened than you did because he was actually there. Why would I give any credence to you (not there) when I have the video and comments of someone close to the even (as there).

And I actually agree with sdsinc on this - "I don't think you are allowed to go to Cuba in normal circumstances" I always thought that was stupid, it's not my beef. I think people should be able to travel wherever the hell they want to go.

So again it comes down to your opinion on international politics is based on how it impacts you?
 
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"Or do you determine what is fine?"

Yes, me and a lot of other decent people. Civil Rights was right, I'm sure you would even agree on that one. Human rights are always just. I'm sure in the future there will be other topics where you have the possibility of making a better point, it's not here. And why would I care about what a homophobe thinks about gay rights? You think there is some deep insight they can provide me, some decent argument. No. It's not that complicated.

"Yes but you certainly weren't there so I don't believe you really can know that much."

Right, I go with the information at hand. Did you watch the video? It was pretty clear the reporter was just egging him on. You post doesn't make much sense. The video was from the reporter, the reporter wrote the article. You say I can't know much, but the reporter can. Well, that's where I got the info from. And you don't need to be there when you can simply watch the video and see where he says twice, don't shake the gun at me. There was no gun shaking, one time he said it, the officer wasn't even looking at him. And I didn't ask for your acceptance, I was just posting my opinion. You didn't touch any of the specific points I brought up. So what are your views on it, where specifically do you disagree with me.

"So again it comes down to your opinion on international politics is based on how it impacts you?"

It's not my beef. Like I said, I should be able to travel where I want, simple as that. And did you miss the part they do allow some travel to Cuba? So, they're not exactly too hard up on it. And it doesn't impact me, since I have no desire to visit Cuba. I can just go to Miami.
 
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"Or do you determine what is fine?"

Yes, me and a lot of other decent people. Civil Rights was right, I'm sure you would even agree on that one. Human rights are always just. I'm sure in the future there will be other topics where you have the possibility of making a better point, it's not here. And why would I care about what a homophobe thinks about gay rights? You think there is some deep insight they can provide me, some decent argument. No. It's not that complicated.

Many people follow rules not because they are forced to but out of common decency because it's an understood etiquette that makes living in one place easier and better. For example - people use the quote function because it's easier and makes the forum better.

So civil and human rights - in big holistic terms you can't question the moral high ground - but look at specific things and then what what is your opinion? Then within that look at small legal cases and tell me what you think.

Affirmative action?
Restricting access to abortion?
Equal pay for equal work?
Don't Ask Don't Tell?
Recognition of gender in cases of reassignment surgery?
Rights of people to collectively bargain and unionize?
Doesn't everyone have a right to free basic healthcare?
Gay rights?
Right to smoke pot - there's an obvious one
Invading Iraq? A proper protest could have saved 100,000s of lives but those against it were VILLIFIED as ANTI-AMERICAN.

Oh, these don't affect you so it doesn't matter does it. You act like everyone just "knew" we needed civil rights. You act like civil rights is all just one big positive move. What about the civil rights that had a negative affect on other groups? What about rules that had a push-pull effect on groups?

There's a class in America I call the "alright jack" class. As long as nothing shit happens to them they assume that nothing shit is going to happen to other people as long as they work hard in school and get that good job. It's the American dream that some have the luxury of believing exists.

What about those who are arrested for protesting? Are they doing anything wrong? Should they do it differently?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-henn/keystone-xl-protest_b_4886208.html

Or should we just accept everything as long as they don't find oil in Orlando. If you have convictions in something what should you do?

What about anti-war protests, what about protests for civil rights (you don't think people got arrested - were they doing something wrong?), what about the Occupy movement? What about protesting nuclear power?

Right, I go with the information at hand. Did you watch the video? It was pretty clear the reporter was just egging him on. You post doesn't make much sense. The video was from the reporter, the reporter wrote the article. You say I can't know much, but the reporter can. Well, that's where I got the info from. And you don't need to be there when you can simply watch the video and see where he says twice, don't shake the gun at me. There was no gun shaking, one time he said it, the officer wasn't even looking at him. And I didn't ask for your acceptance, I was just posting my opinion. You didn't touch any of the specific points I brought up. So what are your views on it, where specifically do you disagree with me.
The information at hand - but clearly you know far less than anyone else that was there. You have a video of a moment (not the before, not the after, not of other people, and not a wide angle). I don't think anything was particularly clear other than guys in military type dress armed with weapons were ordering people to leave (and not being nice about it).

Where's the second amendment play here in your mind? Or does it not have any role here at all?

I didn't meant to say anything about acceptance. I was merely saying that your point of view was fairly irrelevant - we should really only be listening to people that live in that area because your point of view is just secondary information. If a German can't use information at hand to make opinions about the US I don't see how a Floridian can make opinions about things out of state.

How did you find the information (beyond the video). Was it unbiased? Perhaps the only unbiased media is foreign? But then they don't know what it's like because they don't live in America..... see where that one dimensional view hurts?

Perhaps if Americans had taken the time to understand European, Asian, Middle Eastern opinion more they'd be less hated worldwide.

It's not my beef. Like I said, I should be able to travel where I want, simple as that. And did you miss the part they do allow some travel to Cuba? So, they're not exactly too hard up on it. And it doesn't impact me, since I have no desire to visit Cuba. I can just go to Miami.

They allow restricted travel to Cuba but it's bigger than that.. European countries are free to deal with Cuba - however, the US sees this as a violation of sanctions so it's not just about flying its about global politics (but not being European and not being Cuban you don't care because it has no impact on you).

Have you been to or lived in Miami or are you just making little a jab for the hell of it? I can be pretty sure that Miami is not even close to Cuba and that statement comes off us glib, uneducated, borderline racist, and without much of an understanding of what it is to be a Cuban national. In other words, offensive.
 
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Many people follow rules not because they are forced to but out of common decency because it's an understood etiquette that makes living in one place easier and better.
Maybe so, but where the boundaries of common decency end are up to individuals, and common decency usually ends with some of the people wanting to exploit the decency of another. . . thus, laws are sometimes necessary to promote and enforce "common decency" and its boundaries for all.

I didn't meant to say anything about acceptance. I was merely saying that your point of view was fairly irrelevant - we should really only be listening to people that live in that area because your point of view is just secondary information.
By your argument, if a person hasn't experienced something personally (and presumably understands everything by proximity), that person's opinion or thought on the topic/event/whatever isn't really valid. If that's the case, if two people experience the same event but tell differing versions of that event, what determines not only who you believe, but reality? Can't pick a jury to decide guilt if they weren't there, right?

Perhaps if Americans had taken the time to understand European, Asian, Middle Eastern opinion more they'd be less hated worldwide.
Hmmm . . . . Like international touchy/feely therapy in a really, really big room?

Have you been to or lived in Miami or are you just making little a jab for the hell of it?
Have you lived in Cuba?
 
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You should worry less.

Nah, worrying is often the precursor to action, or at least a decision that leads to action, although of what kind, I know not.
 
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"Many people follow rules not because they are forced to but out of common decency because it's an understood etiquette that makes living in one place easier and better."

Right, so basically what I just said. And that stuff right below that, I specifically mentioned what I was talking about, but you went off on your usual tangents talking about other things and as usual, didn't provide your own opinions on the ones your brought up.

"The information at hand - but clearly you know far less than anyone else that was there."

Exactly, that's why I stuck to commenting on what I saw on the video. What you can see on the video as well but decided to skip over. Again, I posted specifics and even the seconds in the video in which they occurred. You just came with, I saw some mean people ordering people around.

"Perhaps if Americans had taken the time to understand European, Asian, Middle Eastern opinion more they'd be less hated worldwide."

That's covering a lot of ground right there. Can you share some of your insight specifically to each of those regions and why theyat hate us?

"the US sees this as a violation of sanctions"

Yet, they allow travel via certain companies there, hence the "not so hard up" comment from me. I mentioned that in my last post, you failed to mention that in yours.

"Have you been to or lived in Miami or are you just making little a jab for the hell of it? I can be pretty sure that Miami is not even close to Cuba and that statement comes off us glib, uneducated, borderline racist, and without much of an understanding of what it is to be a Cuban national. In other words, offensive."

Yes, I've been to Miami and lots of places in Florida. I've lived here a long time, take a lot of road trips. It was called a joke, and you knew that. But you either forgot to remove the stick or you're just being overly sensitive and were lazy throwing out some racist card. Are you unaware of the high Cuban population in Miami or the place that is center of social, cultural, and political activity in Miami is called Little Havana? Do you need to talk to your friend in England who is an expert on Florida for that information?

Understanding what it is to be a Cuban National. Please share your insight on that. And did you just make yourself spokesmen for Cubans in Florida? Are you saying they don't have a sense of humor and can't see an obvious joke like you? All the pain they feel of my joke flows thru DU?

"I can be pretty sure that Miami is not even close to Cuba"

To me it's pretty close, I guess it depends on your definition. Key West to Cuba is only 90 miles, people have swam it. Miami a little over 200 miles.

And this nonsense again:
"If a German can't use information at hand to make opinions about the US I don't see how a Floridian can make opinions about things out of state."

Went over that one already, never said you can't make opinions. I was very specific to what I was talking about, and you even agreed with me. I was talking about living somewhere on a day to day basis, you're typically going to know more how it is living there, than someone who doesn't. And I used an example you can relate to. I asked you if Theo, would know more about living in Tampa, than you, somebody who actually lives there, your reply was:

"No, of course not."

So don't act like you disagree with me on that one.
 
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Right, so basically what I just said. And that stuff right below that, I specifically mentioned what I was talking about, but you went off on your usual tangents talking about other things and as usual, didn't provide your own opinions on the ones your brought up.
So rather than actually use the quote function purposefully designed to optimize forum use you decided to bold. Well, that sure fixed everything.
I was just being long winded in saying use the quote tag.

That's covering a lot of ground right there. Can you share some of your insight specifically to each of those regions and why theyat hate us?
No. I recommend you review some foreign policy if you're interested and cross reference that with some editorial content from foreign press and reach your own conclusion. Most people don't make the effort... hence why Americans don't understand. It's common knowledge that the hatred is there. Hence the "travel as a Canadian joke".
The real problem is that a lot of the time the American's THINK they are doing the right thing but they have no understanding of the political, ethnic or history of a region. Spreading American style democracy in the Middle East.. yeah, that worked. Creating Israel, another success story. (Though that wasn't a lone effort).

Yet, they allow travel via certain companies there, hence the "not so hard up" comment from me. I mentioned that in my last post, you failed to mention that in yours.
I'm not talking about people with relationships in Cuba having special dispensation. I'm talking about the US Govt extending their sanctions against Cuba to relationships with European businesses. In other words, extending your countries beef into other countries. A European country dealing with Cuba cannot trade in the US. Read the Helms-Burton act.
Not just about who can get on a puddle jumper and visit. You don't think that pisses off some Europeans (oh wait, I told you to do your own research).

Yes, I've been to Miami and lots of places in Florida. I've lived here a long time, take a lot of road trips. It was called a joke, and you knew that. But you either forgot to remove the stick or you're just being overly sensitive and were lazy throwing out some racist card. Are you unaware of the high Cuban population in Miami or the place that is center of social, cultural, and political activity in Miami is called Little Havana? Do you need to talk to your friend in England who is an expert on Florida for that information?
Jokes can't be offensive or borderline racist? I guess that means all those Justin Bieber chainsaw jokes were just causing people to be overly sensitive. I knew it was a joke, you're right... but it is a joke that continues to become more and more common as a political put down. I don't know if you've been following, but immigration policy is a big thing right now. The country is split and animosity is getting worse - saying that Miami is Cuba is part of that problem. A lot of families are from Cuba and a lot of them are American. Maybe you don't get that there is profiling, prejudice and stereotyping...

Understanding what it is to be a Cuban National. Please share your insight on that. And did you just make yourself spokesmen for Cubans in Florida? Are you saying they don't have a sense of humor and can't see an obvious joke like you? All the pain they feel of my joke flows thru DU?
No. I'm not a spokesman for mental health, Mexicans, or kids born with disadvantages either. Make a joke about "retards" or "fags" and see if I like that as well.

To me it's pretty close, I guess it depends on your definition. Key West to Cuba is only 90 miles, people have swam it. Miami a little over 200 miles.
Yes, I was clearly talking about proximity. I may as well go to Alaska to find out what it's like in Russia coz they're you know, so close. Perhaps I should have used the word similar.
 
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By your argument, if a person hasn't experienced something personally (and presumably understands everything by proximity), that person's opinion or thought on the topic/event/whatever isn't really valid. If that's the case, if two people experience the same event but tell differing versions of that event, what determines not only who you believe, but reality? Can't pick a jury to decide guilt if they weren't there, right?
It's reductio ad absurdem - it's an extension of the argument that people outside of America don't know as much about living in America as people living in America.

Hmmm . . . . Like international touchy/feely therapy in a really, really big room?
No..I mean like sitting in a Christian Church singing hymns and teaching them of the freedoms of America!

Have you lived in Cuba?
No. I havent visited it either - in part due to the aforementioned travel restrictions.
 
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The real problem is that a lot of the time the American's THINK they are doing the right thing but they have no understanding of the political, ethnic or history of a region. Spreading American style democracy in the Middle East.. yeah, that worked. Creating Israel, another success story. (Though that wasn't a lone effort).

Okay, not inserting myself into your discussion, because you folks are making me tired just reading what you have to say. I'm just making one comment before moving off to look out of my darkened window at a suspicious looking tinted window sedan.

The multi-hundred years of history for the region basically consists of resisting change for the sake of maintaining theocratic power, which coincidentally allows the regional powers to behead or stone to death women, children and foreign journalists at will. Millions are dead, over the years, from a simple difference of opinion regarding similar religions. Shaking them up a bit by attempting to insert a new political structure was a long shot, but the roi of that long shot - turning the region into a democracy that promoted equality, fair representation, etc., was a shot worth taking. Imagine the effects, 100 years from now if democracy had taken root properly in Iraq? Maybe it was not the correct thing to do. But doing nothing simply means that hundreds of thousands, millions will die over the next generation simply because they do not share religious beliefs with the ones in power.

Doing nothing also means that Iran will end up with nuclear missiles. If that does not make you uncomfortable, then you must be living underneath a lead lined rock 150-200 miles away from any population center, directly atop 10 years worth of MREs.
 
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"No. I recommend you review some foreign policy if you're interested"

You brought it up, don't run from it now. Please, enlighten us.

"I'm not talking about people with relationships in Cuba having special dispensation."

Right, but you replied to what I was saying. I was talking about something very specific and in DU style, you talked about something else, while quoting me.

"I knew it was a joke, you're right..."

I know

As far as that long list of subjects you rambled on about. If you're truly interested in one of them, then pick 1. Start a post on it and provide your opinion on it. Many times you're more of a rebounder, waiting for someone else to do that first, waiting for everybody else to give their opinion and then come to the show. It's easier doing 1 at a time and being specific with it. In your post today, you actually asked 22 different questions on a variety of subjects. Am I supposed to write a book for you in one post. So pick one and get it started, provide your opinion.
 
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It's reductio ad absurdem - it's an extension of the argument that people outside of America don't know as much about living in America as people living in America.

Don't be silly. Americans don't speak other languages.

No..I mean like sitting in a Christian Church singing hymns and teaching them of the freedoms of America!

Taurus excreta cerebrum vincit

No. I havent visited it either - in part due to the aforementioned travel restrictions.

I'll bet Mumbles could find a way there.[/QUOTE]
 
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Don't be silly. Americans don't speak other languages.

I speak latin:

"Veni, Vidi, Visa" ( "I came, I saw, I shopped." )

Also,

"Ubi est, quae proxima McDonalds?" ( Where is the nearest McDonalds? )
 
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If he was President today, he'd never be called "Tricky Dick"
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Oh, Theo, the NP internet anarchist, please share with everybody how you fight the power. Do you not pay your taxes in Germany? Do you disobey the Polizei? Or you just watch videos and post on the internet? You were ranting and raving earlier in the thread about taxes, how the government is stealing from you, so what do you do about? Bend over and take it? Or do you fight it?

And I still don't think you watched the video, since you didn't comment on the specific aspects of it. It wasn't just charging a laptop, it was taking your time, trying to purposely antagonize a police officer, somebody just doing their job, in hopes of getting a reaction. Is that all it takes to impress you? Some douchebag reporter that was lying in the video?

As far as the video you just posted, you really didn't add much. 7 seconds? Can you post the full video for me, for context sake, or does that matter to you? Get a little more in depth with it. What was he talking about? Were they his views? What? Give me context.

As far as my views/obedience, my natural self is not a criminal one. I have no reason to disobey a police officer when they're asking something reasonable. I'm fine with civil disobedience and breaking unjust laws, like women's rights, civil rights, gay rights etc. But something that would be a worthwhile fight, hanging out at Mickey D's isn't one of them. That just made the reporter look like an ass to me.

And I actually agree with sdsinc on this - "I don't think you are allowed to go to Cuba in normal circumstances" I always thought that was stupid, it's not my beef. I think people should be able to travel wherever the hell they want to go. Americans can but it's very strict via a few companies that do people-to-people educational exchange programs and you have to stay on a tight itinerary, can't just wander off on your own. I don't see what we've accomplished since imposing those restrictions back in 1960.

I fight it.

Oh, JB, the NP internet liberal, please share with everybody how you fight the evil conservatives and anyone that opposes the current goverment.

What do you do? Just watch videos of so called debunkers and write stuff on the internet and/or bend over to support your held Obama?

I watched the video, he didnt do anything illegal, It is not about "impressing" me it is about how the cop is acting in the video. What did the cop do to impress you? Since when is it illegal to be in MCD? As far as I know they were not asked to leave by the owners of the MCD.

/ Give me context./
He said all that needed to be said, he understands that a nation state is all about the monopoly of violence. That is true and I totaly agree.

/That just made the reporter look like an ass to me./
Great, I disagree with your liberal NSA snack room Obama loving nonsense posting damaged liberal statist opinion.
 
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"I fight it."

Thanks for that deep response, minus any actual examples. How do you fight you not wanting to pay taxes? Or the police etc.? Just don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with it, why don't you just do that?

"the NP internet liberal"

Depends what we're talking about:
Socially - very liberal/libertarian
Economics - moderate/conservative
Crime - extremely conservative

"He said all that needed to be said, he understands that a nation state is all about the monopoly of violence."

Where is the full video? You didn't even bother to search on what he said, did you? You just like posting out of context clips, not understanding what you're posting? Was he just talking about Max Weber's theory on the subject, talking about Republicans as some have said, what?

Yes, I do enjoy posting legit sources of information, while you use a lot of nutty, tin foil types. If we're talking about 9/11, I'll use legit sources like - http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842. You'll use some high school kids YouTube video. When the Unemployment Rate dips into the 5's, I'm going to post about it. You'll follow up with some nut using some different system nobody uses. I use the Official Numbers. The numbers used when Bush, for most of his time in office, had good numbers, until the last year when it was in a free fall. The numbers used against Obama when it was over 8. But when it started going down, now all of a sudden you don't want to use those numbers. The same numbers both parties use.

I remember the name now.....Shadow Stats, haha. Plenty of sites tearing them right up. Maybe you'll use that one again or find something new, and just forget that Official Stats exist.

It's so bad with you, I remember our conversation about the plane hitting the Pentagon during 9/11 and you actually tried to debate that, saying "Video, pictures, debris and witnesses can all be manipulated to paint a picture how you want."

I understand why you hate debunkers and debunk type sites. Because it's usually qualified people in their fields, taking apart some of the nonsense you like to read.
 
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