The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[MattheP]

Just picked up...

Juan.tel

I figure there should be a "Spanish John" or 2 that may want this name....

Nice one. Out of 15 .tel domains I own (including one european capital city), only offers I got were for the one I bought for my girlfriend - her first name

 

[dag]

The end of the world..... Or, at least that's what some people say.... I believe it's on the winter solstice in December... This is mainly based on the Mayan Calendar which has been accurately predicting cosmic events for thousands of years... and then.. mysteriously... it just ends.. in December of 2012! OMG! Some people have even paralleled Nostradamas's predictions with Mayan predictions to "beef" up the story.. It's all very exciting!

What most people neglect to mention is that the Mayan calendar was designed to be cyclical -- that is, the calendar doesn't come to an end in 2012, it just starts again from the beginning.

 

[hakita]

Nice pick Juan.tel !

If phone number become letters, will we say "phone name" ?
" Hey, dick, give me you phone name." ?

If Telnic could push that concept in cinema ( minority report like movies), that would be a great. Just imagine Tom dialling "Bob.tel"

Making public assessment asking "will one day, phone number become phone name ?" and " would you like it ?" would make interesting results is guess.

regards

 

[jacpar]

The earth, there are at least 10 000 000

Nice pick Juan.tel !

If phone number become letters, will we say "phone name" ?
" Hey, dick, give me you phone name." ?

If Telnic could push that concept in cinema ( minority report like movies), that would be a great. Just imagine Tom dialling "Bob.tel"

Making public assessment asking "will one day, phone number become phone name ?" and " would you like it ?" would make interesting results is guess.

regards

On the earth, there are at least 11 000 000 peoples having the name "Bob", only one of them can have BOB.TEL
On the earth, there are at least 10 000 000 peoples having the name "Jaun", only one of them can have JUAN.TEL
In the year 2029, the last Bob beeing born will have to regg "BOB11000001.tel ... not easy to remember.

Oh boy !!

 

[saucey]

Thanks..

Thanks Guys and Gals!

Yes, I am excited about getting...

Juan.tel

I also managed to pick up Juan.mx (Mexico)

So, it could make an attractive package to some Juan!

 

[WordWalker]

On the earth, there are at least 11 000 000 peoples having the name "Bob", only one of them can have BOB.TEL
On the earth, there are at least 10 000 000 peoples having the name "Jaun", only one of them can have JUAN.TEL
In the year 2029, the last Bob beeing born will have to regg "BOB11000001.tel ... not easy to remember.

Oh boy !!

Don't Forget Bob[first letter of last name].tel

or [geo]Bob.tel

or [adjective]Bob.tel

or any combination of the above.

The whole point is to move away from an ID that consists mostly of numbers.

Identifiers that suggest a concept or image are much easier for the brain to hold on to and far more interesting. :imho:

 

[virtualwords]

Hi

I just managed to get another christian name to add to my collection, been going through names for weeks but have not had any luck.

Just regged - Lawrie.tel

Really pleased with this, I know it is not a top notch name but any christian name i think is a steal.

Have you all checked out the new telnic website.

www.telnic.org

It looks really impressive.

Regards

Gav

 

[DubDubDubDot]

And the concept of dialing a .tel heats back up again in here. Too bad this discussion is pretty much limited to a dozen people in one thread at one forum.

I may have said this in the past, but nothing has stopped dialing a .com from happening. All you'd need is a special file like phone.txt in the top level directory. Then you dial whatever.com, it checks for phone.txt, gets the number and dials it.

If dialing a .tel is such an amazing idea, why didn't we get dialing a .com long ago?

p.s. Spare me the "Oh oh, but .tel serves directly from the DNS for speed!" BS.

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Just regged - Lawrie.tel

Really pleased with this

"Lawrie is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth in the last 100 years.
Please enter another name."
Popular baby names



Oops...

 

[hasseily]

To dial a .com, you could:
1- add a phone.txt file in the top level of your website
2- put the phone number in a NAPTR record in the DNS, just like .tel

To do (1) you need a website, and you need an HTTP request by the device (including a DNS request). To do (2), you just need a DNS request.

Anyway, the point has never been that .com couldn't do what .tel does. It CAN. That's the beauty of STANDARDS. The one main, fundamental, difference is that you know that a .tel domain has contact info. You don't know if a .com domain has contact info. Think about the implications for a minute, and you'll see that it's a deep and meaningful difference.

 

[saucey]

To dial a .com, you could:
1- add a phone.txt file in the top level of your website
2- put the phone number in a NAPTR record in the DNS, just like .tel

To do (1) you need a website, and you need an HTTP request by the device (including a DNS request). To do (2), you just need a DNS request.

Anyway, the point has never been that .com couldn't do what .tel does. It CAN. That's the beauty of STANDARDS. The one main, fundamental, difference is that you know that a .tel domain has contact info. You don't know if a .com domain has contact info. Think about the implications for a minute, and you'll see that it's a deep and meaningful difference.

Happy New Year Henri!!!

 

[qO_Op]

And the concept of dialing a .tel heats back up again in here. Too bad this discussion is pretty much limited to a dozen people in one thread at one forum.

I may have said this in the past, but nothing has stopped dialing a .com from happening. All you'd need is a special file like phone.txt in the top level directory. Then you dial whatever.com, it checks for phone.txt, gets the number and dials it.

If dialing a .tel is such an amazing idea, why didn't we get dialing a .com long ago?

p.s. Spare me the "Oh oh, but .tel serves directly from the DNS for speed!" BS.

What happens if the hosting is down?

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To dial a .com, you could:
1- add a phone.txt file in the top level of your website
2- put the phone number in a NAPTR record in the DNS, just like .tel

To do (1) you need a website, and you need an HTTP request by the device (including a DNS request). To do (2), you just need a DNS request.

Anyway, the point has never been that .com couldn't do what .tel does. It CAN. That's the beauty of STANDARDS. The one main, fundamental, difference is that you know that a .tel domain has contact info. You don't know if a .com domain has contact info. Think about the implications for a minute, and you'll see that it's a deep and meaningful difference.

 

[Kate]

What happens if the hosting is down?

What happens when the DNS are down or unreachable ?

 

[hakita]

but nothing has stopped dialing a .com from happening. All you'd need is a special file like phone.txt in the top level directory.

DubDubDubDot,
Their is a simple reasons why .tel better suit TELecom usage that .com :
-> It is simplier, easyer and cheaper to set with .tel. This is because .tel was thought at very first for telecom usage.

Let s admit the fact, .tel and .com are simply not intended for the same usage.
One day, phone numbers will become phone names.
The question is what technology will better fill that need ?

It could be your proposal (phone.txt + https request), but it also could be .tel

I think .tel is atually the best finalized techno/standard for that needs.

Moreover http request takes too much time to resolve name to number. Just can't fit.
Regards

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In one case (http), you rely on DNS + webhosting,
In the other case (.tel), you rely on DNS only.

So .tel will globally be more thought (better uptime).


Anyway, let s think differently:
Does ANYONE here can offer a technology to provide phone names in a more simple, fast & secure way than .tel does ?

More globally,
One day, phone name ( Juan.tel) will replace phone number (+71.54687945), where will you be that day ? will you miss that turn ?

 

[bmugford]

I don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.

Brad

DubDubDubDot,
One day, phone numbers will become phone names.

 

[hakita]

I don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.Brad

Why bmugford ? any reason ? didn't it worked out for IP -> DN ?

Isn't it more natural/convenient/easyer to call Juan.tel than +71.54657464 ?

 

[bmugford]

Yeah and there is 1 Juan.tel. After that what are the millions of other Juans going to do?

You are going to end up with stuff that is just as hard to remember. "Call my phone name JuanAZ1978.tel"

Brad

Why bmugford ? any reason ? didn't it worked out for IP -> DN ?

Isn't it more natural/convenient/easyer to call Juan.tel than +71.54657464 ?

 

[qO_Op]

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[hakita]

Yeah and there is 1 Juan.tel. After that what are the millions of other Juans going to do?
You are going to end up with stuff that is just as hard to remember. "Call my phone name JuanAZ1978.tel"
Brad

Sure Brad, that's a point, but isnt't JuanAZ1978.tel easyer to remember than 5454641978 ? :talk:


I created a little survey about phone name/phone number future : http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/632797-survey-will-phone-name-will-replace.html

Fell free to submit your opinion.

 

[Kate]

Isn't it more natural/convenient/easyer to call Juan.tel than +71.54657464 ?

Most telephone handsets have no keyboards :blink:

The global telephone system has one huge benefit: it's universal. It's based on numbers, that are universal too. Everybody in the world can use them.
If you have Chinese correspondents they may prefer to use numbers rather than juan.tel, because you are asking that they type in ASCII while they're already used to IDN.

End users don't need .tel to be reachable, they can just embed skype callto: links in their webpages for example. The skype plugin also parses phone number in webpages.

No need for yet another narrow purpose extension.

 

[hakita]

Most telephone handsets have no keyboards :blink:

More and more telephone now have keyboard, pda, Iphone....
The number of phone connected to internet is increasing.... and this is just a start.

The global telephone system has one huge benefit: it's universal. It's based on numbers, that are universal too. Everybody in the world can use them.
If you have Chinese correspondents they may prefer to use numbers rather than juan.tel, because you are asking that they type in ASCII while they're already used to IDN.

Chinese keyboard have ASCII: http://www.gcishopping.com/images/chinese-keyboard-black-usb_l.jpg
Chinese phone have ASCII: http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/11/chinese-N70.jpg

Moreovver, numbers are not international.
5 = 五 wǔ in chinese...

So this is not a problem, chinese are using ASCII.

End users don't need .tel to be reachable, they can just embed skype callto: links in their webpages for example.

And here is the all point, their is no need to painfully acces a webpages if you can phone reach a .tel directly :hehe:

Think "Easy, fast and secure".
Embeding skype callto in webpages is less easy, not fast, and not as secure as a dns request. :sold: