The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[plaggypig]

By contents I mean text, relevant text. Articles with the right keyword density and other extras are one example of content. .tel has not contents, just data.

There are records for all sorts of things, including header, keywords and free text; it all gets rendered.

As for the HTML structure:
Let's have a look at the source code of sex.tel for example.

<title>sex.tel</title>

The title tag says nothing meaningful about your .tel. Yet it's one of the most important tags for SEO purposes.

Good point, but certainly fixable.

META tags are missing as well. If you want to see how it shows up in search results just type this query in google: site:sex.tel
It's clearly unoptimized, untargeted code. It's definitely not SEO-friendly and that's a fact, not an opinion.

See my previous post about META tags, and I forgot to mention that duplicating keywords would result in a penalty.

I Googled site:sex.tel, and the header text is shown in the results description. Adding the various keywords from sex.tel to the query also shows they're present in the index. Keyword rich text is so sparse on .tel domains I don't really understand what you would change in terms of document structure that would make any real difference?

Furthermore, branding of your domain is difficult since the .tel logo and the cookie-cutter layout takes over. The .tel branding is overwhelming.

I've raised the issue of introducing a special record type for avatars, and other people have raised all sorts of other design issues. I'm sure that over time many improvements will be made, so I wouldn't get too hung up about it.

Again, I perfectly understand that .tel was not designed for the web. So these are moot points in some way, but the fact remains that .tel is the absolute worst TLD you can get for SEO purposes. It's inferior to any other TLD, the only comparable extension being .arpa.

I'd hope that search engines realise there is a great potential to consume data from .tel and answer queries differently - and I'm quite sure they will if .tel gains popularity. But in any case there are special purpose .tel search engines now, and I'll be announcing a new one soon that takes a completely new approach.

Just treat .tel for what it is - a data repository.

That's like observing the human brain as just a lump of grey goo, rather than appreciating what it's capable of and the things it can accomplish

In case anybody George Moen's post yesterday, check it out.

 

[tel-buy.com]

Oh, the "interactive" word comes up again. You're absolutely right, you can create all the interaction you like on a .com name. The whole point of .tel is that there is very little interaction - you ask for information, you're given information. Nothing stupid in the middle. Queries are over in a matter of microseconds, not seconds.

I care about what .tel is, not what it isn't. You waste too much time dwelling on this.

:bingo:

Acro-BatBoy will never get it, it's simply over his head

Intelligence conversation with that one is a waste of time :zzz:

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Is Telpages going to be a game changer for contact information? No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

Because 100% of the information on .tel profiles can already be easily found elsewhere should the contact choose to make it available.

No, it can't.

 

[Tia Wood]

:bingo:

Acro-BatBoy will never get it, it's simply over his head

Intelligence conversation with that one is a waste of time :zzz:

Actually, I have had quite a few intelligent conversations with "Acro-BatBoy" as many others have.

The whole problem is there is yet an example of what .tel can accomplish instead of the "whobewhatties".

Let me know if any of the dashed keywords on http://tel-buy.com sell for 100,000 EUR.

 

[tel-buy.com]

Actually, I have had quite a few intelligent conversations with "Acro-BatBoy" as many others have.

Including me. When it came to the VALID points being bashed instead of countered with an intelligent response, the comments are made.

YellowPages and WhitePages are not out of business because of Google for example, so there is no intelligence in suggesting "text only contact information has no value". Intelligence bashing when you don't have a valid counterpoint is not intelligent conversation. Acro bashes or counters everything, valid or not, intelligent counterpoint or not ...

Acro is perfectly capable of intelligent response, when he actually has one ... :red:

No one suggested otherwise.

Let me know if any of the dashed keywords on http://tel-buy.com sell for 100,000 EUR.

As if that's expected .... duh. Figure it why it's listed like that if you're so intelligent ... :hehe:

 

[DubDubDubDot]

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Because 100% of the information on .tel profiles can already be easily found elsewhere should the contact choose to make it available.

No, it can't.

This thread is so well known for these shallow replies.

This could lead one to believe the pumpers don't have anything intelligent to counter with, so they limit replies to no-substance "You are wrong!" type statements time and time again.

 

[Acroplex]

You bore me to tears. Literally. You have no valid answers to questions.

I hope you like the basic white of the .tel templates and the purple button up top, because they are there to stay for a long time.

For the rest of us, development consists of everything else that you can't have on a .tel. Instead of trying to invent creative insults, spend some time calculating what are the odds of .tel becoming a viable TLD.

Hint: you have better odds winning the Lotto.

Including me. When it came to the VALID points being bashed instead of countered with an intelligent response, the comments are made.

YellowPages and WhitePages are not out of business because of Google for example, so there is no intelligence in suggesting "text only contact information has no value". Intelligence bashing when you don't have a valid counterpoint is not intelligent conversation. Acro bashes or counters everything, valid or not, intelligent counterpoint or not ...

Acro is perfectly capable of intelligent response, when he actually has one ... :red:

No one suggested otherwise.



As if that's expected .... duh. Figure it why it's listed like that if you're so intelligent ... :hehe:

 

[tel-buy.com]

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This thread is so well known for these shallow replies.

This could lead one to believe the pumpers don't have anything intelligent to counter with, so they limit replies to no-substance "You are wrong!" type statements time and time again.

Hey Genius, read the thread. The shallow reply was in keeping with the shallow basher statement.

DUH :lol:

... try using both brain cells next time ! :cy:

Yes, you can.

 

[MicroGuy]

Hey Genius, read the thread. The shallow reply was in keeping with the shallow basher statement.

DUH :lol:

... try using both brain cells next time ! :cy:

Yes, you can.

Classic Telster attack. This type of commentary is totally unnecessary and creates a negative impression on the entire TelePump™ Crew. IMO. (:talk

 

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[saucey]

Honestly, I would LOVE to see some success with .tel. As a domainer & developer: if there are things that will make my job easier, better or make a different way to approach things, I am ALL for it!

But nobody has shown me anything but theories of how things could work. plaggypig, got anything to show where people are doing well with .tel? Frankly, it's what I have been waiting on this whole time but all I get in return is a bunch of hot air and puff.

Hmmm... this extension is less than 6 months old... I think it is progressing in the right direction, but will need a little more time. I think it is unreasonable to expect incredible stats/results at this stage of the game.. no matter what the extension! With a new extension, it has to be mostly theoretical in the beginning because it is something totally new. Stop being unrealistic.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Classic Telster attack. This type of commentary is totally unnecessary and creates a negative impression on the entire TelePump™ Crew. IMO. (:talk

They may not capable of anything better, and I mean that as respectfully as possible.

I would like to think the Telsters are intelligent domainers and developers who are trying to exploit a new TLD by pumping and dumping, but the contents of this thread paint a much different picture.

 

[Domainate.com]

Hmmm... this extension is less than 6 months old... I think it is progressing in the right direction, but will need a little more time. I think it is unreasonable to expect incredible stats/results at this stage of the game.. no matter what the extension! With a new extension, it has to be mostly theoretical in the beginning because it is something totally new. Stop being unrealistic.

Sounds like a .mobi enthusiast post about .mobi 6 months after it came out. The similarities between that extension and .tel in terms of how things have progressed and people's reactions to it are mind boggling. The problem is if I were a .tel enthusiast and look at what .mobi is now, I would not want .tel to share the same fate, but again what .tel needs is widespread adoption, and I just don't see it happening - sorry.

 

[MicroGuy]

I think it is progressing in the right direction, but will need a little more time.

This is the same argument that the .TV pumpsters have been trying to make for years. The reality is that the .TEL extension HAS failed. The founder of Namepros has stated unequivocally that this extension WILL fail. I guess that's not enough weight for you guys.

Move on and cut your losses. Unbind your .TEL chains and absorb the positive .COM energy radiating from above. Join the others in the DDRP (domainer denial rehab program) and get a fresh start. The aftermarket is bubbling with great deals on aged .COMs as we speak. IMO.

 

[saucey]

Sounds like a .mobi enthusiast post about .mobi 6 months after it came out. The similarities between that extension and .tel in terms of how things have progressed and people's reactions to it are mind boggling. The problem is if I were a .tel enthusiast and look at what .mobi is now, I would not want .tel to share the same fate, but again what .tel needs is widespread adoption, and I just don't see it happening - sorry.

You may be right.. Or, you may be wrong... guess we will have to wait and see... I don't mind losing a few bucks on a "shot"..you won't make big money if you don't take a "shot" once in awhile... this applies to .com also!

Thing is, I'm not at all convinced that this extension will completely fail as a few naysayers have been continually suggesting.. Is this because I'm invested in it, and can't bear to lose my money and will keep beating a dead horse? Of course not! I just don't feel that it's had it's fair shake yet. New apps are being developed and improved daily. The .tel team listens to suggestions and has been making changes and improving .tel with the help of this forum and others... Has any other extension ever done this?

I'm not trying to "pump" anything... what's the point of that anyways? Is it going to make all of my neighbours all of a sudden start typing in .tel names because somebody on Namepros said it was a great extension? The answer is no. Conversely, for all the people in this forum who don't like .tel, I don't think your comments will sway Public Joe's opinion either, all it is doing is making this thread a complete joke. Everybody here pretty much knows what everybody else's opinion is. Anyone who is new to this thread and seriously wants to learn about .tel should have read the thread from the beginning and will also know the different viewpoints. All of this recent banter is just cluttering the thread.

:td:

 

[DNNinja]

This is the same argument that the .TV pumpsters have been trying to make for years. The reality is that the .TEL extension HAS failed. The founder of Namepros has stated unequivocally that this extension WILL fail. I guess that's not enough weight for you guys.

Move on and cut your losses. Unbind your .TEL chains and absorb the positive .COM energy radiating from above. Join the others in the DDP (domainer denial program) and get a fresh start. The aftermarket is bubbling with great deals on aged .COMs as we speak. IMO.

.TV is strong as ever and will continue to grow as long there is tv. The same with .Tel it will continue to grow as long there is mobile devices.

And may I add, as long as the money is coming out of my own pocket .Tel protesters shouldn't be worried of how I spend my money. We buy want we want simply because we can.

.Tel my not rock your world but it sure does mine.

Stay positive.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

for all the people in this forum who don't like .tel, I don't think your comments will sway Public Joe's opinion either, all it is doing is making this thread a complete joke.

Nobody is here to sway general public opinion. NamePros is essentially an investment forum, so you should expect two vocal sides of an investment.

Would you take your above statement to a stock market forum?

"For all the investors who don't like Ford, your comments will not sway Joe Car Buyer's opinion. All you are doing is making this thread a complete joke."

That would sound really crazy, and it sounds crazy on a domain investment forum also.

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.TV is strong as ever

You are seriously out of touch with reality.

Reported .TV sales

2009: 13
2008: 271
2007: 197
2006: 20

 

[mwzd]

Tell me, what do you do with banana.tel or coconut.tel

Answer: you wait for them to expire.

At least this guy did something fun: frisbee.tel

But not making money out of domains, isn't fun.

Oh look, it's sausage.tel - lettuce.tel sure looks green.

I wanted my local police department number so I went to police.tel and found some French!

Take a banana.tel and a coconut.tel and head for the beach.tel with your frisbee.tel - play around for a bit and you'll find the sausage.tel naturally migrating towards the lettuce.tel :lol: Just be sure to avoid the police.tel

Take it easy people, no need to take it personally or to get personal with other members. Keep it clean if you wish to continue the thread, don't make it so that we have to either close the thread or ban you from it. Everyone is entitled to waste their money as they see fit, so one shouldn't have an issue with that.

.Tel is relatively new and can't be 'developed' in the traditional sense of the word, and the jury is still way out on it but I still wouldn't sell the ones (10) I do own for reg fee.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Stay positive.

Stay smart and you won't end up in the position of having to stay positive.

 

[Kate]

Sounds like a .mobi enthusiast post about .mobi 6 months after it came out. The similarities between that extension and .tel in terms of how things have progressed and people's reactions to it are mind boggling.

Exactly. History repeats itself, different extension, same hysteria :gl:

 

[tel-buy.com]

Classic Telster attack. This type of commentary is totally unnecessary and creates a negative impression on the entire TelePump™ Crew. IMO. (:talk

Hey Genius, read the thread. Classic Basher Attack Started It, I'm telling Mom.:bah:

Go Burn One and Read It Again. :tri:

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I would like to think the Telsters are intelligent domainers and developers who are trying to exploit a new TLD by pumping and dumping, but the contents of this thread paint a much different picture.

An Intelligent One Of The Future, To Be Sure. :hehe:

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The founder of Namepros has stated unequivocally that this extension WILL fail. I guess that's not enough weight for you guys.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooo, I quit. :bah:

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Take it easy people, no need to take it personally or to get personal with other members. Keep it clean if you wish to continue the thread, don't make it so that we have to either close the thread or ban you from it. Everyone is entitled to waste their money as they see fit, so one shouldn't have an issue with that.

That's the Basher Goal ... You'll notice I only counter Basher quotes when they feel it necessary to post garbage.

Left unanswered, someone might actually believe their jokes ... it's the classic Basher technique ...

Post to Deter Success, and If Answered, draw an emotional response to crash the system.

They win either way. All we can do is answer and keep the post open.

just .tel'n it like it is :talk: