The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[Ms Domainer]

working on leasing out "meetup" as we speak... good stuff

Are you giving an option to buy on your lease? How many times are you allowing your clients to request updates?

not to go into great detail but to share some... I am looking at about 10 a month for a 2nd level folder with the ability to send me changes once a month. with a possible option to purchase the entire domain starting at $x,xxx w/bid and purchase preference... Just writing up the details now.

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In the case of Business For Sale, I can't see where anyone who is selling a business would want to buy such a domain, given that once the business is sold, then what?

The seller would have to sell it, and most end users would not be interested in doing that. In addition, this singular term does not lend itself well to a real estate agency that sells commercial property, unless they would use it for an exclusive listing.

The person who owns the plural (which he/she regged during landrush) might be in a better position to sell to a real estate agency (I acquired Business for Sale during GA preorder).

But I like the idea of leasing this little gem.




I'm thinking that I would offer my customer an exclusive lease on the main card (in other words, NOT leasing subdomains), and, thus, charge accordingly. I don't see the advantage for the customer to lease a subdomain, at least for THIS domain (Others might make more sense).

I would probably put a cap on making changes (maybe three or four a month), but if the customer is paying enough, I don't see the big deal. This platform is SOOOOOO easy.

Still, some numpties would take advantage, so something would need to be negotiated/contracted as to number of changes.

I would think that business sellers would be pretty clear on what specific info they would want on the card.

For sure, this is still uncharted territory.

ADDED INFO: see HouseForSale.tel (not mine).


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[Ader]

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I'm looking to lease some of my domains for short term purposes.

For example, someone selling a business would not necessarily want to buy BusinessForSale.tel but, perhaps, lease it for the time it takes to sell his/her business. And then I would lease to the next "business for sale" customer.

I have set up a card for this domain, and I'm sharing it here because I want telsters and naysayers to see how monetization can be achieved in other ways other than directories and linking to monetization websites.

Please. I don't need to hear how this all sucks and that tel is lame. I already know how some naysayers feel about this TLD.

What I am saying: this business model will become extremely viable and lucrative as .tel itself becomes better known.

For those of us who have ______forSale.tel sites (and we are many--I have checked), I believe we will do very well.

Doesn't someone here have ForSale [dot] tel? If so, congrats.




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Hi ms Domainer,
I have ForSale... and also I am using HouseForSale... in the same way as you suggest.
The more time I spend on this stuff, the happier I get. Just wish there were 48 hours in a day.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Hi ms Domainer,
I have ForSale... and also I am using HouseForSale... in the same way as you suggest.
The more time I spend on this stuff, the happier I get. Just wish there were 48 hours in a day.

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Isn't that the truth?

Some people here have been pooh poohing the voting platform idea, but I have noticed that most of the voting and polling .tels are gone. (I have a good many of them, but certainly not the majority or even the best of them).

Moreover, Freemantle Media owns Idol.tel.

In case you don't know, Freemantle Media produces American Idol. I suspect that Freemantle Media will soon be incorporating .tel into their voting options (maybe even by next season), which will blow things wide open for .tel.

Ader, you are to be congratulated for your forward thinking and your willingness to take a financial risk when many of us (me included) were too timid to jump in all the way. There are at least three domains that I regret not getting when I still could.

But that's life, and one must move on.




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[PMDN]

Dont forget that before you plan leasing your dot tel you'll have to setup a business license first. When you sell a domain name, don't really need a business license.

That's why you see more dot com for sale and rarely for lease.

I have registered an LLC with the state.
I have sold domain names, but have never leased one.
Is registering a business (LLC) sufficient for leasing a .tel (or any other domain name) or do additional license(s) need to be obtained?


Chuck

 

[Ader]

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Isn't that the truth?

Some people here have been pooh poohing the voting platform idea, but I have noticed that most of the voting and polling .tels are gone. (I have a good many of them, but certainly not the majority or even the best of them).

Moreover, Freemantle Media owns Idol.tel.

In case you don't know, Freemantle Media produces American Idol. I suspect that Freemantle Media will soon be incorporating .tel into their voting options (maybe even by next season), which will blow things wide open for .tel.

Ader, you are to be congratulated for your forward thinking and your willingness to take a financial risk when many of us (me included) were too timid to jump in all the way. There are at least three domains that I regret not getting when I still could.

But that's life, and one must move on.




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Been gardening, working hard, and loving working with plants, here and in San Francisco, but I love change and possibility. I see a bright future in Dot TEL. I think .Tel is part of the future. The house at HouseForSale.... is over priced, but it's a lovely house - mainly a way of promoting the site HouseForSale.Tel. I think everyone owning a Dot Tel should add some information , rather than leave it vacant. Forget parked pages with nothing of value. That's a bit boring.

 

[Ms Domainer]

I have registered an LLC with the state.
I have sold domain names, but have never leased one.
Is registering a business (LLC) sufficient for leasing a .tel (or any other domain name) or do additional license(s) need to be obtained?


Chuck

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I think it depends where you live and local law.

Leasing domains isn't quite the same as leasing property, where you have to be concerned with upkeep and local housing codes, but, still, it's something that one has to consider and research.


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[ecigs.net]

In the case of Business For Sale, I can't see where anyone who is selling a business would want to buy such a domain, given that once the business is sold, then what?

I can see a use for this one. What do you think about this idea? If you have a business and you want to sell it, you can get a listing at businessforsale.tel. On the listing, which of course should be arranged by business category, you add your contact information. Anyone wanting to buy a business, could go to businessforsale.tel and get contact information. A person could also do this in reverse. If you want to buy a business, you could go to businessforsale.tel and make a listing about what you are looking for and your contact information. Anyone who has that type of business, can then contact you. This domain name is a good for network building. That's sort of like the jobs search of sites like monster.com, who appears to own monster.tel.

Also good would be to have buyabusiness, sellabusiness and business4sale. They all kind of go together, IMHO.

 

[lexisdomains]

Intuitive Business Models

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I think it depends where you live and local law.

Leasing domains isn't quite the same as leasing property, where you have to be concerned with upkeep and local housing codes, but, still, it's something that one has to consider and research.*

Domains - Intellectual Property​

Here's an article from the Oxford Journal 2002
[Reference: http://jiplp.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/jpi019v1 ]

Although United States appellate authority suggests that a domain name is a form of intangible intellectual property, it is submitted that the better, but not judicially clear or consistent, view is that a domain name is not property.

Again, thanks Ms Domainer & others for your constructive contributions as to the monetization of .Tel.

Its very exciting to see many of you "thinking outside the box" with this TLD genre.


I truly believe that the '.TEL lease model' is a solid business option and will produce a viable source of renewable income & consumer usage.

 

[davidwest]

I can see a use for this one. What do you think about this idea? If you have a business and you want to sell it, you can get a listing at businessforsale.tel. On the listing, which of course should be arranged by business category, you add your contact information. Anyone wanting to buy a business, could go to businessforsale.tel and get contact information. A person could also do this in reverse. If you want to buy a business, you could go to businessforsale.tel and make a listing about what you are looking for and your contact information. Anyone who has that type of business, can then contact you. This domain name is a good for network building. That's sort of like the jobs search of sites like monster.com, who appears to own monster.tel.

Also good would be to have buyabusiness, sellabusiness and business4sale. They all kind of go together, IMHO.

If you made a folder that said printing, then the url of that folder would be "printing.businessforsale.tel" .... you could then sell slots in that folder to business brokers that specialize in selling printing businesses....

you could even break it up further with the 50 states, ie "ohio.printing.businessforsale.tel" with printing business brokers in each state buying a slot.... sell a slot to ColumbosBrokers and you get the url "columbusbrokers.ohio.printing.businessforsale.tel"

all of this is good if google keeps indexing considering url content and if you match these words in your limited text boxes...


you are then limited only by your imagination--



but i would pick businesses that use business brokers, so that you are selling slots to business brokers...(instead of just a business for sale)...

printing
autorepair
spa
beautysalon
or better yet whatever you can think of that sells for big $$$


imho---

 

[Ms Domainer]

I can see a use for this one. What do you think about this idea? If you have a business and you want to sell it, you can get a listing at businessforsale.tel. On the listing, which of course should be arranged by business category, you add your contact information. Anyone wanting to buy a business, could go to businessforsale.tel and get contact information. A person could also do this in reverse. If you want to buy a business, you could go to businessforsale.tel and make a listing about what you are looking for and your contact information. Anyone who has that type of business, can then contact you. This domain name is a good for network building. That's sort of like the jobs search of sites like monster.com, who appears to own monster.tel.

Also good would be to have buyabusiness, sellabusiness and business4sale. They all kind of go together, IMHO.

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I see what you're saying.

Create subfolders, such as:

AutoDealership.BusinessForSale

RealEstate.BusinessForSale

Restaurant.BusinessForSale

Retail.BusinessForSale​

Although the subfolders and the subsubfolders would be a little long, it could become known as a site that specializes in listing businesses for sale.

Interesting concept.


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Domains - Intellectual Property​

Here's an article from the Oxford Journal 2002
[Reference: http://jiplp.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/jpi019v1 ]

Although United States appellate authority suggests that a domain name is a form of intangible intellectual property, it is submitted that the better, but not judicially clear or consistent, view is that a domain name is not property.

Again, thanks Ms Domainer & others for your constructive contributions as to the monetization of .Tel.

Its very exciting to see many of you "thinking outside the box" with this TLD genre.


I truly believe that the '.TEL lease model' is a solid business option and will produce a viable source of renewable income & consumer usage.

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Yes, we do have to think differently with .tel.

Just before landrush, when I was doing searches on Google's Adword Tool, it began dawning on me that short, memorable terms were going to be more inportant than longer high search volume terms, simply because of the way .tel is going to be used the most: as telephone numbers given out to friends, family, and business colleagues. Memorability is going to be the gold standard for this TLD, so then I set out to reg short domains, several three-letter ones (even as late as yesterday, I found one really great pronouceable three-letter .tel, but it has one non-premium letter).

In one sense, naysayers are correct when they imply that .tel is not really a domainer's TLD, but I think are wrong in saying that it can't make money. It just isn't going to make money parked on Sedo or via Google ads.

By next week, I'll have all my .tel domains fully populated--can't say that for my dot-coms.

LexisDomains and all: Thanks for all the good ideas!


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[davidwest]

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I see what you're saying.

Create subfolders, such as:

AutoDealership.BusinessForSale

RealEstate.BusinessForSale

Restaurant.BusinessForSale

Retail.BusinessForSale​

Although the subfolders and the subsubfolders would be a little long, it could become known as a site that specializes in listing businesses for sale.

Interesting concept.


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Yes, we do have to think differently with .tel.

Just before landrush, when I was doing searches on Google's Adword Tool, it began dawning on me that short, memorable terms were going to be more inportant than longer high search volume terms, simply because of the way .tel is going to be used the most: as telephone numbers given out to friends, family, and business colleagues. Memorability is going to be the gold standard for this TLD, so then I set out to reg short domains, several three-letter ones (even as late as yesterday, I found one really great pronouceable three-letter .tel, but it has one non-premium letter).

In one sense, naysayers are correct when they imply that .tel is not really a domainer's TLD, but I think are wrong in saying that it can't make money. It just isn't going to make money parked on Sedo or via Google ads.

By next week, I'll have all my .tel domains fully populated--can't say that for my dot-coms.

LexisDomains and all: Thanks for all the good ideas!


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for typing the url in it gets too long after 5 letters for me....

but, if google applies longtail logic (whatever it is called) to .tels then perhaps they will get indexed and get good page position if the url and content match and the market isnt already saturated....

 

[dotker]

Just got my dotTEL!

so any way to check out the stats for this page?

 

[lexisdomains]

Stat Tracking

Just got my dotTEL!

so any way to check out the stats for this page?

Yes. the following site provides an overview of .TEL stats: http://www.websiteoutlook.com/

 

[jacpar]

gouverneur.tel , NY state : Google, page 3 !

Typing "Gouverneur NY state" in Google search gives my domain GOUVERNEUR.TEL on page 3.

 

[Traveler]

Typing "Gouverneur NY state" in Google search gives my domain GOUVERNEUR.TEL on page 3.

There are not enough searches for "Gouverneur NY state" to even register on google keyword tool. It is pretty easy to rank for keyword phrases that don't get any searches and have little or no competition.

Congrats on getting indexed though. The .tel does have its hands tide quite a bit when it comes to seo. However, i do think it is too early to say one way or the other how exactly google is going to treat .tel names. 3-6 months from now, we should have a better picture. From what I have seen so far, no one is ranking well for any keywords that have a decent number of searches, but then again that would be very hard for any site in any extension to do in this short amount of time.

 

[steveteva]

How did Jepaa.com and Telsaurus.com (google customs) ranks their dot tel? I'm surprise to see some of mine high ranked without any SEO stuff.

 

[Ms Domainer]

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When searching "author[.]tel," it comes up number 1 (out of 32,000,000). I made sure I was signed out of my Google account before searching. The word "author" is a high-searched term (over a billion Google), so when and if author [.] tel ranks on page 1, that will be a day to celebrate.

I realize that it's unlikely that too many people will search for that exact term, but it is an indicator of how Google will index .tel.


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[Traveler]

I found this today. Here is an end user using the .tel the way it was intended. Quick and easy contact info.

http://idesa.tel/

They just so happened to be down the road from me in Barcelona, but I found them on the web.

Here is an interesting one. Looks like this guy is going for SEO.

http://depannage-a-domicile.tel/

and... the one and only redirect...

http://nic.tel

 

[lipps]

Here is another good use of dot tel
Qucik easy linking to some useful informtion

weatherreports dot tel

I could see this driving some visitors to a website or even, for this one, use an affiliate link to one of the weather pages mobile software programs.

Still not seeing a large movement for the use of .tel yet but I too am starting to find several end users that have begun using them.

 

[footodors]

205,000 indexed domains now!
http://www.google.com/search?source...&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GWYE_enUS260US260&q=site:tel

soon to catch .museum
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...nUS260US260&num=100&q=site:museum&btnG=Search