The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[Acroplex]

The problem is, you did not remove all of the offending posts.
Unless you want to declare that it's ok to not defend oneself over slanderous posts made by pompous .tel pushers, like Mr. aliencafe.

Sure, I have a few .tel's for the reasons I've already explained ad nauseum: brand/tm protection, experimenting, corporate gifts. I won't shut up when pill pushers feel "offended" because their scheme is unveiled. I mean, come on. Be impartial. I have *no* problem with debating. Bold that.

 

[mis_chiff]

The problem is, you did not remove all of the offending posts.
Unless you want to declare that it's ok to not defend oneself over slanderous posts made by pompous .tel pushers, like Mr. aliencafe.

Point me too them, I've just started looking back.

The problem is, you did not remove all of the offending posts.
Unless you want to declare that it's ok to not defend oneself over slanderous posts made by pompous .tel pushers, like Mr. aliencafe.

Sure, I have a few .tel's for the reasons I've already explained ad nauseum: brand/tm protection, experimenting, corporate gifts. I won't shut up when pill pushers feel "offended" because their scheme is unveiled. I mean, come on. Be impartial. I have *no* problem with debating. Bold that.

The thread is not about whether someone is offended
or about debating??

It's the personal attacks and name calling that is the issue.
If you like or dislike .Tel that's your opinion, and it's voiced.

If you feel someone is doing something that could
affect people in this community, then report him/her
to the Staff with the reason and the proof and we'll
take care of it.

 

[hasseily]

Comments:
- A release of Telhosting this week will fix the problem of "?" not being allowed in URLs.
In the meantime, use URL shortening services with meaningful words in the url. That's also much more valuable than long random affiliate links.

- We just found out that some registrars initially enter some records pointing to their websites (which is ok) but they make a mistake and create those records with a time-to-live of 1 hour.
What this means is that it can take up to 1 hour for those records to be purged when you remove them the first time and populate your domains with your info. We've notified those registrars we found.

 

[ecigs.net]

The problem is, you did not remove all of the offending posts.
Unless you want to declare that it's ok to not defend oneself over slanderous posts made by pompous .tel pushers, like Mr. aliencafe.

Sure, I have a few .tel's for the reasons I've already explained ad nauseum: brand/tm protection, experimenting, corporate gifts. I won't shut up when pill pushers feel "offended" because their scheme is unveiled. I mean, come on. Be impartial. I have *no* problem with debating. Bold that.

Chill Out, Acroplex. This isn't the TEL sucks thread. Even if TEL did suck, wouldn't it be more honorable to try and help people think of ideas for their investments than just griping all the time?

I agree with mis_chiff. We are way off track with this thread. The original question was about what TELs will do best.

IMHO, GEOs are always a safe bet. I have about a dozen cities.tel registered from GEOs in the Palm Springs area. Also, quality, single dictionary keywords are good. Finally, anything to do with customer service would do nicely with this TLD. I also like LLL.TEL, but that's just my personal favorite.

 

[Billy2009]

My ND Bangkok.tel is not resolving properly on Thailand cellphones - although have not checked Blackberry or Iphone. The writing is so tiny it is unreadable? Is there a solution to this issue? Cheers.

 

[hasseily]

My ND Bangkok.tel is not resolving properly on Thailand cellphones - although have not checked Blackberry or Iphone. The writing is so tiny it is unreadable? Is there a solution to this issue? Cheers.

What's your phone's brand and type? Are you accessing via the web? iMode?
Could you email me a picture of what it looks like? (take a pict of the phone displaying the page)

Thanks!
send it to my email on henri.tel

PS: For later bug reports, please send them to [email protected].

 

[Billy2009]

What's your phone's brand and type? Are you accessing via the web? iMode?
Could you email me a picture of what it looks like? (take a pict of the phone displaying the page)

Thanks!
send it to my email on henri.tel

PS: For later bug reports, please send them to [email protected].

Hi Henri, Thanks for the quick response. My phone is not web enabled so I took the SIM card out and used it on another persons phone. It was accessed through the web. It is just a miniaturised version of my whole Bangkok.tel page. Can I access from outside the web? The provider is AIS Thailand and sorry I can not provide a photo. Will send further queries to [email protected]. Cheers, Bill.

 

[hasseily]

I'm requesting input from the community on the Telproxy stats system at:

http://dev.telnic.org/trac/discussion/15/137

 

[kukgle]

I'm requesting input from the community on the Telproxy stats system at:

http://dev.telnic.org/trac/discussion/15/137

Can I just put the comment here?

To accept input from community and let your team to develop it may take a bit more time to be finished. Could you take a look Google Analytic API once again (http://code.google.com/intl/th/apis/analytics/docs/gdata/gdataLibraries.html), there has so many way to connect with their system. IMO, integrate with this stable and widely use system would be accepted by most of Telsters.

 

[cyberonyx]

Can I just put the comment here?

IMO, integrate with this stable and widely use system would be accepted by most of Telsters.

what he said

 

[werty]

Man. Why do they keep adding more and more extensions. They are like diluting the market. They are not letting demand increase for other recent extensions released. If they keep adding extensions and extensions they are not letting the value increase. .Com is still the king and it will remain that way.

 

[jacpar]

French translation of "fires"

Just regged FEUX.TEL

 

[ecigs.net]

The Future is coming...

Man. Why do they keep adding more and more extensions. They are like diluting the market. They are not letting demand increase for other recent extensions released. If they keep adding extensions and extensions they are not letting the value increase. Com is still the king and it will remain that way.

The Internet wasn't made for domaining. Only domainers see new TLDs as a threat to their investments. The rest of the populace sees new TLDs as a chance to buy a good name for their business. So if you want to protect yourself, you shouldn't waste your time trying to stop new TLDs. They are going to keep coming regardless of what a few domainers think or do. Instead, you should focus your energy on websites and promoting them.

 

[plaggypig]

I am pleading with the .tel community - don't ask Henri to spend his time producing pretty analyses on .tel proxy logs for you - support my request for raw logs in the standard Apache format, including referers and user-agents, and let other people innovate and develop their own analytics packages. Liberate the data, and I promise you won't regret it!

 

[Billy2009]

Bangkok.tel is resolving correctly on N Series Nokia in Thailand.

 

[steveteva]

Today I've received a letter from the local yellow page company (paperback directory) with insertion fees, I was really surprise to see some price fees; from $300.00 (black&white) small advertising space up to $30 000.00 LOL

Then I think there is a market with dot tel as direct competitor if you have a great dot tel directory and sell listing for less.

I also admit that online directories dot com might be a better solution as you can add color advertising banners and more but trying to get a good dot com for it is hard now not really the case for a dot tel.

 

[plaggypig]

I also admit that online directories dot com might be a better solution as you can add color advertising banners and more but trying to get a good dot com for it is hard now not really the case for a dot tel.

Is that what people seeking information want to see, banners? Or do they want responsive access to relevant and accurate information? The only thing that I care about is creating value for people, and if this isn't in the forefront of your mind too then what are you doing? There are people seeking information and people providing information - the friction in the areas where those two groups meet is ginormous, and if you're smart enough to hit the sweet spot then the world is yours :hearts:

You don't have to charge advertisers flat listing fees either - I'm going for the CTC (Click To Connect) method of monetising communication channels directly. Ring ring, kaching kaching! You can also charge advertisers higher rates for higher rankings, placements in special areas of the directory, other value added services, etc.

 

[steveteva]

I also admit that online directories dot com might be a better solution as you can add color advertising banners and more but trying to get a good dot com for it is hard now not really the case for a dot tel.

Is that what people seeking information want to see, banners? Or do they want responsive access to relevant and accurate information? The only thing that I care about is creating value for people, and if this isn't in the forefront of your mind too then what are you doing? There are people seeking information and people providing information - the friction in the areas where those two groups meet is ginormous, and if you're smart enough to hit the sweet spot then the world is yours :hearts:

You don't have to charge advertisers flat listing fees either - I'm going for the CTC (Click To Connect) method of monetising communication channels directly. Ring ring, kaching kaching! You can also charge advertisers higher rates for higher rankings, placements in special areas of the directory, other value added services, etc.

Great point for monetizing idea, but adverting is also what some people are looking for. If they want to go to a pizza restaurant it's hard to choose from the list without any colour full picture, with advertising you can see what pizza restaurants are providing (newyork style, pan pizza, coupon, pizza presentation,...) like we say in marketing: "a picture worth tousand words"

Here is a good example (no url because I'm not advertising but for example purposes):
I used to own (sold to a company) a online yellow page : annuaire(dash)tahiti(dot)pf you can see all the banners, infos... just like the official yellow page. Now, let see tahitidottel witchis a short name easier to remember, fast load compare to the one above but only text links in its directory. If you were a business and want to add to it, what will you choose the dot com directory or dot tel? Also if you were the user looking for a business, will you go to the dot com or dot tel?

I think both will go to the dot com. The only positive about dot tel will be for mobile devices when talking to directory.

Otherwise, dot tel is really made for contact information (business card) rather than directory.

 

[dottelads.com]

just a short hello!

been 'watching' on the sidelines and decided to register... look forward to some educational banter

 

[ecigs.net]

Great point for monetizing idea, but adverting is also what some people are looking for. If they want to go to a pizza restaurant it's hard to choose from the list without any colour full picture, with advertising you can see what pizza restaurants are providing (newyork style, pan pizza, coupon, pizza presentation,...) like we say in marketing: "a picture worth tousand words"

Here is a good example (no url because I'm not advertising but for example purposes):
I used to own (sold to a company) a online yellow page : annuaire(dash)tahiti(dot)pf you can see all the banners, infos... just like the official yellow page. Now, let see tahitidottel witchis a short name easier to remember, fast load compare to the one above but only text links in its directory. If you were a business and want to add to it, what will you choose the dot com directory or dot tel? Also if you were the user looking for a business, will you go to the dot com or dot tel?

I think both will go to the dot com. The only positive about dot tel will be for mobile devices when talking to directory.

Otherwise, dot tel is really made for contact information (business card) rather than directory.

Once again, this thread is for what are good TELs to buy, not what makes COM so wonderful.

Your whole argument here doesn't make any sense anyhow. TEL isn't made to compete with COM. It is competing against expensive online directories. To get the picture you want, you link from TEL to it, just like the Yellowpages does. A lot of phone book listings do not have pictures at all. I know the Verizon ads don't unless you pay a large fee. Even then the pictures are extremely tiny. So what are you going to do for value: pay $100+ a month for an online phonebook ad or buy a TEL for $8.95.

By the way, you can go with dot COM all you want. Try to buy a LLL.com and see what it costs you. I got BHT.TEL for $8.95. In COM, this isn't going to happen for under $xxxxx.

Here's another reason to buy TEL. This happened to me when I first started running an online business. I had ads in a directory that cost $500 per year: USCity.net. I was the first in my category, so I was right up at the top of the list. Towards the end of the year, when the ads were starting to place really well with Google, I got a call from the USCity people. They said the products I was selling were no longer allowed. I would not be allowed to renew the listing. After the year was up, all links to this category were removed, but the pages kept online. For about 3-4 months, to my horror, these pages still placed well in Google for my keywords, but were used to advertised USCity services. Consequentially, I had to compete with the pages that I paid to have created.

That's what happens when you pay directories: they own the landing pages and can kick you out at any time.

It is much better to buy your keywords in TEL, than pay somebody to list you in their directory. Even if that directory is large and in COM, NET or ORG.