The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[lexisdomains]

Nice vBulletin

I am trashing the obvious gaping holes in the concept, and the inability of the .tel drones to realize the TLD is not another "free for all" keyword fest. Business card on steroids? It seems that you have not heard of LinkedIn or even MySpace, both of which are free and *can* be used for any type of contact info, including purely professional ones.

Hey Acropolex, I love your vBulletin layout & graphics.
Did you configure this board yourself?

 

[cyberonyx]

just another thing, when I download a "vCard" to an apple OSX10.5 computer, the only data that comes across is the keywords data. no phone numbers, none of the actual important data fields? anybody seeing this? how about on wintel?

 

[hasseily]

We are currently updating all the domains from the master .tel zone file.
All domains that had previous problems with provisioning should be properly active and running after this update that's expected to finish today. During this period, changes to currently active domains can take longer to propagate than expected.
We apologize for the lack of timely notification, but hope that by end of day today (april 11) all issues with domain provisioning will have been fixed whatever the registrar.

Note: domains without one valid NAPTR record (contact info) will still not resolve, as per the acceptable use policy

Thanks, and again sorry for the late notification.

Henri Asseily
Telnic

 

[wot]

I am trashing the obvious gaping holes in the concept, and the inability of the .tel drones to realize the TLD is not another "free for all" keyword fest. Business card on steroids? It seems that you have not heard of LinkedIn or even MySpace, both of which are free and *can* be used for any type of contact info, including purely professional ones.

Irrespective of the why's and wherefores, if's and but's. I did mention on an earlier thread that this .tel thing seems to have caught the imagination of non domainers and those that barely used the net (all have mobiles) in my part of Thailand and it seems to be spreading-BTW .mobi was completely unknown. Some 20 have now regged their .tel and it appears that it is becoming contagious as their friends and families are also catching the bug.

It may blow over but at the moment there are new people who were not aware of such applications in the use of .tel and are now "au fait" and it may not be isolated to my part of the world- anybody :?

In Asia "face" is a big thing and this may be a major factor. Irrespective of the alternative ways that "mobile business/personal cards" may be utilized at the moment .tel seems to be stealing the thunder.

Just my observations. :blink:

 

[lexisdomains]

Thanks for the response

We are currently updating all the domains from the master .tel zone file.
All domains that had previous problems with provisioning should be properly active and running after this update that's expected to finish today. During this period, changes to currently active domains can take longer to propagate than expected.
We apologize for the lack of timely notification, but hope that by end of day today (april 11) all issues with domain provisioning will have been fixed whatever the registrar.

Note: domains without one valid NAPTR record (contact info) will still not resolve, as per the acceptable use policy

Thanks, and again sorry for the late notification.

Henri Asseily
Telnic

Thanks Henri Asseily for your prompt and professional response.

PS:
I would imagine that the Telnic organization is growing by leaps and bounds in view of the recent .TEL tld registration success. Does Telnic have any plans to expand its employee base?

Please 'Tel'........

 

[ecigs.net]

I am trashing the obvious gaping holes in the concept, and the inability of the .tel drones to realize the TLD is not another "free for all" keyword fest. Business card on steroids? It seems that you have not heard of LinkedIn or even MySpace, both of which are free and *can* be used for any type of contact info, including purely professional ones.

MySpace and LinkedIn? Are you kidding? That's about as professional as having your portfolio written in crayon. If you sell tires, for example, you should want to have tires.tel instead of myspace.com/tires. If you get out of the tire business, you have an asset: tires.tel. Your mySpace profile belongs, however, to MySpace.com; not you. It is against the Myspace.com terms of service to sell Myspace.com profiles/accounts. You really can't compare owning your own domain to blogging on somebody else's domain.

By the way, MySpace owns MySpace.tel. I think they get it.

 

[saucey]

MySpace and LinkedIn?
By the way, MySpace owns MySpace.tel. I think they get it.

Any takers for YourSpace.tel???

 

[Kate]

By the way, MySpace owns MySpace.tel. I think they get it.

Yes they do get the need to do defensive registrations for their TM

 

[lexisdomains]

.Tel SEO Update

New SEO Update:

URL: Merchandise*tel
Keyword Phrase: Auction Merchandise
Google Rank: Page 3 / Position 28 (depending on your server)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 22 (depending on your server)

URL: eFile*tel
Keyword Phrase: Refund eFile
Google Rank: Page 2 Position 13 ( up 1 position)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 13 (up 1 position)

Moving on up,

 

[kprobe]

re SEO update

New SEO Update:

URL: Merchandise*tel
Keyword Phrase: Auction Merchandise
Google Rank: Page 3 / Position 28 (depending on your server)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 22 (depending on your server)

URL: eFile*tel
Keyword Phrase: Refund eFile
Google Rank: Page 2 Position 13 ( up 1 position)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 13 (up 1 position)

Moving on up,

We had reg'd footwear.tel about a month ago. Just searched on 2 keywords: cowboy boots, espadrilles (unquoted) and found footwear.tel is page 1 # 29 via google.ca, curious to know where it is on google.com using same. However, when I search on either word, it is not within top 100. Shows that longer tail might work well with .tel ? Worth refining my keywords now.

Mark

Furthermore, talent.tel is #10 on search of World-Wide Directory of Talent, while just searching on Directory of Talent, it is #82. Long tail rules?! ... at google.ca

 

[cyberonyx]

aapl.tel

ranking #2 page 1 for "aapl.tel"
ranking #2 page 1 for "aapl tel"

position 1 on both searches is held by the "aapl.tel" discussion that i started 2 days ago on the yahoo financial board.

now, on to getting ranked for "aapl" and more. i am actually trying to get my main domain "aaplinvestors.com" to be brought up into aapl ranks. looks good so far

cheers

actually, a few of my.tels have been hit today by google. some that I did add to "addURL" and others that i simply did nothing

cheers

 

[DubDubDubDot]

MySpace and LinkedIn? Are you kidding? That's about as professional as having your portfolio written in crayon. If you sell tires, for example, you should want to have tires.tel instead of myspace.com/tires. If you get out of the tire business, you have an asset: tires.tel. Your mySpace profile belongs, however, to MySpace.com; not you. It is against the Myspace.com terms of service to sell Myspace.com profiles/accounts. You really can't compare owning your own domain to blogging on somebody else's domain.

Take the TLD away from the .tel system, put it on tel.com and give users tel.com/user instead of user.tel and what are you left with? The same exact system, just a slightly different way of getting there.

So does a social site having it's own TLD make it any more professional than other social sites like MySpace or LinkedIn? I personally don't think so. What it actually boils down to is features.

If I was in a position where I needed to tell someone how to find me, but I couldn't tell them the actual contact method or give them my full .com site, would I be better off telling them about me.tel or www.myspace.com/me?

For business purposes, I'm taking the MySpace method 99 times out of 100 simply because everything on the .tel can easily go on the MySpace. Plus I could put all sorts of promo materials on the MySpace.

New SEO Update:

URL: Merchandise*tel
Keyword Phrase: Auction Merchandise
Google Rank: Page 3 / Position 28 (depending on your server)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 22 (depending on your server)

URL: eFile*tel
Keyword Phrase: Refund eFile
Google Rank: Page 2 Position 13 ( up 1 position)
AOL Rank: Page 2 / Position 13 (up 1 position)

Moving on up,

I'd like to see where people are getting their .tel's to rank among premium keywords where there is a lot of completion and real money to be made.

 

[aliencafe]

I have a great suggestion FOR ACROPLEX. Instead of wasting time continuosly ranting about .tel domains, why dont you start a PETITION TO ICANN to stop any further domain extensions from being permitted. All of the typing and energy you spend on this forum being negative about .tel could be spent on REAL efforts for REAL results.
I do agree with some of your points from time to time, but you have exhausted the subject and you have accomplished the proverbial "beating of a dead horse" by raising the same issues over and over again.

If you believe .com is the only way to go then do something about it and get a petition going or something better than saying the same remarks over and over again.

BY THE WAY: I never received the long awaited PM that you were going to send me of all the .com names you owned and the extensive development that you have done over the years. I would really like to see what basis you are substantiating your claims. If you back your words up with very profitable interesting domains, your "street cred" will be boosted.

However: I'm starting to think it is all smoke and mirrors, and your main goal is to drive traffic to your blog or telsucks site which is quite hilarious I might add. When I need some comic relief I go to your site. It's very entertaining.

I always appreciate constructive criticism and have always listened to your views objectively. However the negative commentary on .tel from you is neither informative or thought provoking in my opinion. It is getting quite tiresome without you providing suggestions or ideas that would solve issues. It seems like an endless negative rant on craigslist or something.

regards.

 

[phase111]

I have a great suggestion FOR ACROPLEX. Instead of wasting time continuosly ranting about .tel domains, why dont you start a PETITION TO ICANN to stop any further domain extensions from being permitted. All of the typing and energy you spend on this forum being negative about .tel could be spent on REAL efforts for REAL results.
I do agree with some of your points from time to time, but you have exhausted the subject and you have accomplished the proverbial "beating of a dead horse" by raising the same issues over and over again.

If you believe .com is the only way to go then do something about it and get a petition going or something better than saying the same remarks over and over again.

BY THE WAY: I never received the long awaited PM that you were going to send me of all the .com names you owned and the extensive development that you have done over the years. I would really like to see what basis you are substantiating your claims. If you back your words up with very profitable interesting domains, your "street cred" will be boosted.

However: I'm starting to think it is all smoke and mirrors, and your main goal is to drive traffic to your blog or telsucks site which is quite hilarious I might add. When I need some comic relief I go to your site. It's very entertaining.

I always appreciate constructive criticism and have always listened to your views objectively. However the negative commentary on .tel from you is neither informative or thought provoking in my opinion. It is getting quite tiresome without you providing suggestions or ideas that would solve issues. It seems like an endless negative rant on craigslist or something.

regards.

--> What he said and I don't agree with dub dub a lot's post either, another neg poster with little substance...who the heck would rather have tel.com/username instead of .tel... Takes longer to load on a mobile too and look far less clean and unpro in my opinion.
:yell:

 

[DubDubDubDot]

hire.tel

what could that be worth in years to come? The guy obviously got a bargain!

$3,000? I'm thinking the buyer has no idea you can't develop .tel's. One couldn't even say for sure that an undeveloped hire.info would sell for that.

I was at the ball park yesterday (Camdem Yards -- The Orioles got pummeled ), and AT&T, a sponsor, was trying to use shortcodes for some fan survey by flashing the numbers on the dynavision.

Well, they weren't any numbers I was going to remember. A nice short .tel would have been the ticket.

That eliminates every fan without an internet connection on their cellphone, so that's not going to work since the idea is to cast a wide net.

There is a good chance this company was the one powering that poll...
http://www.embracemobile.com/market_research.html

And when every cellphone has internet, PollDaddy and other polling solutions make much more sense since the polls can be branded. There is no branding on .tel because that isn't want it was built for.

Wouldn't Example.TEL make a lot more sense in offering fast access purchase to the jewelry item of your choice?

PS: You could also configure your .tel record to point directly to the landing page for a specific jewelry item.

What your thoughts....

Some of you really need to stop with these ideas of running a critical aspect of a business off a .tel profile.

Your example doesn't work because we're talking about dialing eleven numbers and going straight to the sales person vs keying in whatever.tel (hopefully their phone is internet capable), reading the .tel profile and hoping the consumer knows that clicking a number auto-dials it. The mental cost of this setup is way too high for most consumers and it would no doubt result in lost sales because of the added steps.

--> What he said and I don't agree with dub dub a lot's post either, another neg poster with little substance...who the heck would rather have tel.com/username instead of .tel... Takes longer to load on a mobile too and look far less clean and unpro in my opinion.
:yell:

I don't think you understood my post. I never said that tel.com/user would have been a better address than user.tel. What I said was that however you get there, be it user.tel or tel.com/user, it ultimately boils down to the content of the page.

I wouldn't say my posts have little substance. I've been providing real world examples all along the way. Whereas .tel supporters (for use beyond what .tel was meant for, simple contact methods) haven't backed up their claims with anything at all.

And no, tel.com/user wouldn't take longer to load than user.tel assuming it was the same backend and design.

BY THE WAY: I never received the long awaited PM that you were going to send me of all the .com names you owned and the extensive development that you have done over the years. I would really like to see what basis you are substantiating your claims. If you back your words up with very profitable interesting domains, your "street cred" will be boosted.

That was a very noobish thing to publicly demand.

I can't speak for him, but unless you run a B2B site that could benefit from board exposure, pretty much nothing good can come out of showing off your sites. There is however a world of problems that can arise, mostly from certain types of webmasters who are constantly looking for ideas and even full sites to rip off. Pretty much all decent webmasters remain on the down low in this very competitive field.

 

[Shahid7]

Shahid, have you received the telhosting for these and has teh whois updated? Im guessing they havent, please let us know though.

sorry for the late reply, been reading today as i got time.

name.com havent send the telhosting yet, dynadot is super fast and domainmonster is fast too.

 

[plaggypig]

And no, tel.com/user wouldn't take longer to load than user.tel assuming it was the same backend and design.

Just wanted to comment on this point specifically, since it is factually incorrect.

The brilliance behind .tel is that contact information gets stored directly in the DNS. So when client applications wish to retrieve data, they don't have to go all the way over the web to get it, but instead just pull it from their local DNS resolver. This has huge implications for users on mobile networks in particular, since they are inherently latent. It's all about tactile responsiveness - absolutely critical for browsing through directory tree structures.

In terms of the web we're talking about something like a second (or several), but for .tel we're on the millisecond scale. It may not seem like it, but it's a huge difference.

Then there is the issue of availability - what if your web server gets bogged down by requests, or drops offline completely? We don't have to worry about that with .tel - it sits atop the most distributed and balanced network in the world.

One of my favourite .tel quotes is, "Its as if we’re at the stage where we’re learning that to perform certain important acts the signal doesn’t have to go all the way to the brain and back but can operate by way of the much faster reflexes that only touch the spinal cord."

Think of DNS like the central nervous system in your body, and a superior alien being has attached a .tel implant to your spinal cord that gives you super internet powers: you are Superbook Man der derr der derrrrr.

So anyway just remember, .tel is not the web. The internet is more than the web, and it is connectedness that matters.

 

[headstart]

I am curious who is going to brand .TEL with commercials etc. Must be
domainers cause no company will do this. And FYI, the search engines
don't like these kind of (sites?) Who needs a search engine on their
mobile if the mobile web is crowded by directory listings form .TEL.
They don't like the link-sites in other extensions and .TEL would
directly compete with them(the search engines) on mobiles.
I am afraid the extension will disappear as fast as it came cause there
will be no support from big players cause its not in their interest.

 

[tony_np]

this thread is so long. I wonder is there somebody can read from page 1 to here ?

I have a question: I register TDBank.tel. Is it legal? I registered it just because I saw it was there and I watched at least 2 weeks, nobody wanted it, so I picked up it.

and, Is it legal if I try to sell it to TDBank ?

Thanks!

 

[Jawed]

this thread is so long. I wonder is there somebody can read from page 1 to here ?

I have a question: I register TDBank.tel. Is it legal? I registered it just because I saw it was there and I watched at least 2 weeks, nobody wanted it, so I picked up it.

and, Is it legal if I try to sell it to TDBank ?

Thanks!

There is a serious TM issue with this name and therefore it’s worthless for anybody else.
It will be a big mistake if you try to sell it to them.