The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[aliencafe]

MicroGuy:

My point is Google was viewed as some obscure little company before they became popular. I live and work in Silicon Valley..

It's actually a perfect comparison, a small start up by a couple of guys who had a good idea, eventually got venture capital investment and developed to what they are today. The similarities are apparent, or are you just hammering me for fun?
On a funny note I will register richardcranium.tel just for you

 

[Ms Domainer]

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I had to look up Richard Cranium on "startup" Google...but

ROTFL

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MicroGuy:

My point is Google was viewed as some obscure little company before they became popular. I live and work in Silicon Valley..

It's actually a perfect comparison, a small start up by a couple of guys who had a good idea, eventually got venture capital investment and developed to what they are today. The similarities are apparent, or are you just hammering me for fun?
On a funny note I will register richardcranium.tel just for you

 

[MicroGuy]

On a funny note I will register richardcranium.tel just for you

Thanks.

 

[steveteva]

There are hundreds of dot tel U.S. city available, so you still can grab on some have 100 000+ population.
Also people saying that don't waiste your money on it are wrong. For proof, today I saw scottsdale.tel available and was going to register it but someone call me for a urgent delivery, I left my computer and registrar page open, went to my car did my job for less than an hour, came back on my desktop and try to reg but says not available
I was RED because scottsdale is a city of 200 000 pop and small area with full of businesses very dynamic city (travel, business, events...)
So I check to see when and who's that guy registered with whois, unfortunately it was displayed private registration and date was march 23 (date of General)
So that is a lesson learned for everyone who are still skeptical on dot tel $300 fee.

 

[Traveler]

So that is a lesson learned for everyone who are still skeptical on dot tel $300 fee.

Just because one person has more money than brains does not mean a thing to the rest of the people that still have a decent amount of functioning neurons in their head. Oh look, an idiot just jumped of a cliff, why didn't I think of that. Give it a rest already.

 

[Acroplex]

There are hundreds of dot tel U.S. city available, so you still can grab on some have 100 000+ population.
Also people saying that don't waiste your money on it are wrong. For proof, today I saw scottsdale.tel available and was going to register it but someone call me for a urgent delivery, I left my computer and registrar page open, went to my car did my job for less than an hour, came back on my desktop and try to reg but says not available
I was RED because scottsdale is a city of 200 000 pop and small area with full of businesses very dynamic city (travel, business, events...)
So I check to see when and who's that guy registered with whois, unfortunately it was displayed private registration and date was march 23 (date of General)
So that is a lesson learned for everyone who are still skeptical on dot tel $300 fee.

For a city of 200k residents, very dynamic etc. I'd like to see how you'd build that Scottsdale portal on a .tel web site. It will be a LONG page of text links. How exciting. I am sure lots of businesses will want text ads on a .tel site. Not!

This entire .tel story reminds me of the early 90's and BBS text on monochrome screens. Back to the future, or forth to the past?

 

[Ms Domainer]

Just because one person has more money than brains does not mean a thing to the rest of the people that still have a decent amount of functioning neurons in their head. Oh look, an idiot just jumped of a cliff, why didn't I think of that. Give it a rest already.

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Wow!

That was constructive criticism!

Happy St. Patty's Day!

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[lexisdomains]

There was a thread created specifically for people who would like to voice their discontent for certain domain TLD's. If this fits you, please feel free to voice your concerns at the following Namepros thread: http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/567333-top-level-domains-pros-cons-official.html

 

[Traveler]

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Happy St. Patty's Day!

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Happy St. Patty's Day to you as well.

 

[aliencafe]

Pills.tel has been indexed by google and msn.

Is that the first .tel purchased at landrush to be indexed?

Regards

 

[Acroplex]

Pills.tel has been indexed by google and msn.

Is that the first .tel purchased at landrush to be indexed?

Regards

What do you mean by "indexed"?

I search for "pills" in Google and it's nowhere to be found.

I search for "pills.tel " and my blog post about it comes top (past the suggestions) :D with the domain itself appearing at #5

Hanz, is this you?

 

[aliencafe]

Yes Acro. It bounces from 1st to 5th on google.

Of course with a few days of development the domain will not rank at #1 for a highly competetive word like pills. It is indexed though and I don't see any others besides the Telnic sites such as emma or largeco.

Acro I have a personal investment in .tel and am in no way related to telnic. Did you read the article link I posted earlier?

I just clicked your link from iPhone to www.pills.tel
And I got 3rd result

 

[Acroplex]

I guess it depends on your location, also you should not count the suggested links for "pills.com" as positions. Start at the first related result. Anyway, that was to demonstrate that there is no hope for .tel domains and search engines; they will be topped by anything that is keyword-laden from other established TLDs.

Not trying to be sarcastic, but I can't help it...when you refer to "a few days of development" what exactly do you plan to develop on that page? A cross-linking farm of text links?

Development and .tel are two conflicting words. By definition, .tel is a "spit out" of Telnic's database, onto a template. No images, no real navigation, no multimedia. It's Web 0.2 circa 1993.

Unless you were a developer of the original Mosaic, you'd not miss these days.

 

[hasseily]

Development and .tel are two conflicting words. By definition, .tel is a "spit out" of Telnic's database, onto a template. No images, no real navigation, no multimedia. It's Web 0.2 circa 1993.

A couple of precisions:

1. Your .tel is your own database. It's neither a spit out, nor Telnic's.

2. Considering your .tel as your own standardized distributed, cacheable, navigable data store of contact info, keywords and loc, with APIs for reading and writing, then some would say that "development" might be a word that comes to mind when thinking of .tel. Not "development" of a website, but development of apps and services outside the web.

(.tel != Web)

 

[aliencafe]

Acro, I have heard all of your points which you have made quite frequently. I completely understand your views. You have seen my site, which will be a mobile pharmacy site. You have criticized it and the technology.

What is it that you are involved in developing, what sites, what domains, what is it that gives you entrepreneurial spirit?

I would like to review some of your works on the web, maybe you can share your insight into technology with the rest of us.

Regards

 

[Kate]

Not trying to be sarcastic, but I can't help it...when you refer to "a few days of development" what exactly do you plan to develop on that page? A cross-linking farm of text links?

I guess that's the maximum that can be achieved. Not bad, a cookie-cutter template for $300+

Unless you were a developer of the original Mosaic, you'd not miss these days.

Hello gopher

Oh If you're French .tel may remind you of of the old minitel
Minitel was still more interactive, it was more than a directory service.

 

[Acroplex]

I have not made my points "quite frequently". Unfortunately, I too was not aware from the get-go what .tel is about; I thought it'd be yet another .mobi

At this time, unveiling what .tel's usefulness is might shock some, anger some and even not convince some. I believe that despite using some tongue-in-cheek examples, I've been less unbiased than, say, my criticism of .mobi (back then I flat out said it sucked).

I've been investing in dictionary com/net/org domains, marketable two-word compounds, old domains (before 2000 / before 1995), short domains and brandable "creative" domains across most TLDs. I've tested the ccTLD waters, avoid the typo scene, I dislike IDNs and overall prefer to hold onto a very "dense" domain portfolio.

I'll send you a PM with more credentials.

A couple of precisions:

1. Your .tel is your own database. It's neither a spit out, nor Telnic's.

2. Considering your .tel as your own standardized distributed, cacheable, navigable data store of contact info, keywords and loc, with APIs for reading and writing, then some would say that "development" might be a word that comes to mind when thinking of .tel. Not "development" of a website, but development of apps and services outside the web.

(.tel != Web)

I do understand the concept, sympathize with the programming effort involved and the "genius/excitement" behind .tel

But it's not fit for a TLD!

It'd be great as - say - a geolocation/contact "twitter".

Otherwise, if ".tel != Web" why does Telnic want to use it over the web & domains?

Hello gopher

Oh If you're French .tel may remind you of of the old minitel
Minitel was still more interactive, it was more than a directory service.

I remember reading about minitel in the mid-80s. Back then it was very progressive and I think ahead of its time. The slow speeds (300 baud?) killed it.

 

[MattheP]

no i wouldn't, i am not talker when i say something i mean it.
what good does the money do when you want to sell your own
identity ?

I would take that $30Mil and buy shadid.com for 30000 or whatever

 

[FreakySteve]

.tel != Web

:kickass:

This pretty much sums it up. If you can't wrap your head around this concept, .tel is not for you and you should go check some parking stats or do something else web-centric.

why does Telnic want to use it over the web & domains?

Is this a real question?
Why does a domain registrar that uses DNS technology want to use it (initially) over the web and domains?

Seriously, is this a real question?

 

[onspec]

If you like em', buy em'. If you don't.... then don't.

Cheers,