The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Hmmm, FremantleMedia North America Inc in Burbank has regged idol.tel

Find out who they are here:

http://www.fremantlemedia.com/

See what they offer:

http://www.fremantlemedia.com/our-programmes/

and

http://www.fremantlemedia.com/our-programmes/view/Game+Shows/

and

http://www.fremantlemedia.com/our-programmes/view/Entertainment/

This is kind of a generic name, no?

Methinks they will have a use for this domain.



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I concede Neo.

You win... but wait...

Why did American Idol reg their own .tel?

Must be purely for defensive/brand protective measures eh?

...Hmmm. what if... just WHAT IF... they could shave 2 minutes off the entire show by NOT saying... for "Billy" call 1888 xxx-xxxx and push number 2 (and so on throughout with all of the contestants) For "Alecia" call 1888 xxx-xxxx and push number yada, yada, yada...

Maybe all they have to say is .. "To vote, go to American Idol .tel".

Do you think Simon Cowell and his band of merry (moneymakers) could use that time to sell and extra 1 or 2 sixty second commercials? Say at ... oh I don't know.. a half million a pop.... say $1 million bucks in additional revenue.. think they might forego a few email addresses?

Hey, who knows, I could be way off base... Mohawks think a bit differently.

Cheers,

Dude... I'm out,... pass me the papers..

 

[Acroplex]

I want some straight answers people....

If you want whatever.tel, you are happy with a single page that contains contact info and nothing else?

Are you satisfied with not having images, audio, video, graphics, navigation and links to whatever the heck you like?

Has it gone that bad that you simply want a keyword.tel and that's it, without caring what you can do with the domain?

There are so many ccTLDs for that purpose. Use your brain.

 

[phase111]

Why make things simple. The crowds will love it
BTW should mobile surfers go to the .tel or .mobi to cast their vote ?


Still waiting for a valid reason for registering .tel
In particular at landrush price.


Yeah, it might sell to another speculator. But it doesn't make the TLD any more useful. TLDs don't thrive on speculation alone.
If the bulk of domains consists in speculative registration by domainers and defensive TM registrations by the large corporations, then there is no life in the TLD. In theory resellers could sell to each other, at least at the very beginning but that won't last long. If your names don't make any money and you can't do anything about it then there is no point in paying for renewals.

On a side note, take note of reported sales for casino.[TLD] and see how many are parked and how few are developed. It doesn't surprise me, I would not expect a bona fide casino business to operate on a TLD like .vg or .gs :]
Sorry for drifting offtopic, my point is that the rush for so-called coveted keywords in any TLD has more to do with speculation :imho:

Some good points and I tend to agree with you about speculation value especially for most of the other tlds, luckily I see .tel as being a more functional tld. than many a parked domain.

 

[MicroGuy]

I have successfully gotten e-mails forwarded from my .tel domain to my gmail account.

You seem to be in the minority.

Currently, many registrars have disabled custom DNS modifications to .TEL domains and simply replaced their panel with a link to the Telnic control panel which does not support MX record changes: http://telnic.org/community-faq.html

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Generally, ccTLDs don't rank well outside their host countries.

.tel is a GLOBAL TLD.

And, yes, I find the simple card very attractive. There's beauty and functionality in simplicity.

Once writer.tel is up, I'll be able to link to all my writing sites (important to me), and I may be able to "rent" directory space to other writers.


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I want some straight answers people....

If you want whatever.tel, you are happy with a single page that contains contact info and nothing else?

Are you satisfied with not having images, audio, video, graphics, navigation and links to whatever the heck you like?

Has it gone that bad that you simply want a keyword.tel and that's it, without caring what you can do with the domain?

There are so many ccTLDs for that purpose. Use your brain.

 

[Traveler]

Methinks they will have a use for this domain.



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Other than a contact page, or directory of their services, what use would they have for it? It is not like you can have "BIG" plans for a dot tel name.

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Generally, ccTLDs don't rank well outside their host countries.

.tel is a GLOBAL TLD.

And, yes, I find the simple card very attractive. There's beauty and functionality in simplicity.

Once writer.tel is up, I'll be able to link to all my writing sites (important to me), and I may be able to "rent" directory space to other writers.


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Good luck with google on that one.

 

[Steven]

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Generally, ccTLDs don't rank well outside their host countries.

.tel is a GLOBAL TLD.

And, yes, I find the simple card very attractive. There's beauty and functionality in simplicity.

Once writer.tel is up, I'll be able to link to all my writing sites (important to me), and I may be able to "rent" directory space to other writers.


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What good is a global tld if

1) You have a relatively static page (Will not rank well)
2) Your name redirects to http://s0.webproxy.nic.tel/lookup/name.tel
Google and other search engines will rank the site as
http://s0.webproxy.nic.tel/lookup/name.tel instead of name.tel

 

[Acroplex]

To me as a developer as much as a domainer, the critical point was decided when it was clear - but NOT from at the various TelNic "propaganda" videos - that you can't point a .tel domain to your DNS servers to whatever content you like. That sealed the case. If I can't control the content of a domain that I paid for, I might as well stick to other TLDs, invent a compound, add "the" in front of a .com that's already taken or heck, get a MySpace for free. I fail to see why people support .tel even as much. It's a bastard child.

 

[Kate]

I still fail to see why American Idol would direct voters to an odd extension and risk confusing the viewers with a dull webpage that they cannot even customize.
It looks like a masochistic marketing approach to me. You can afford to play geek with like-minded friends, along with domain hacks, l33t speak and the like, but not when you're a mainstream business of national stature.
Please correct me if I missed any particular advantage of .tel vs .com here.

I think the clock is ticking right now, and .tel doesn't have a lot of time to attain critical mass and mindshare.
New TLDs are released at a brisk space nowadays, and they are quickly forgotten.

 

[Traveler]

I think the clock is ticking right now, and .tel doesn't have a lot of time to attain critical mass and mindshare.
New TLDs are released at a brisk space nowadays, and they are quickly forgotten.

The clock is not ticking, it struck 12 long ago. New tlds don't have to act quickly because the bell has already rang. They are late to a party where everyone got their free hats and champagne and already went home.

 

[gilescoley]

hi guys

just curious if there is any way to add folders in bulk on the control panel

Im hoping I dont have to add each heading individually

It looks like I may have to though

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Scenario:

[Voiceover]

To vote for your favorite idol by mobile phone, go to​

[Flashed on TV screen]

idol.tel​

[When user goes to the site via mobile phone, sees]

Click on your favorite idol; calls are 50 cents per minute.​

[And two (or more choices) choices]

1. Sanjaya

2. Jordin Sparks​

[When the voter clicks on a choice, he/she has dialed an actual phone number, and will be connected to automated voting system via phone].

[Voiceover]

To vote online:​

[Flashed on screen]

online.idol.tel​

[Shows voter two website links]

1. Sanjaya

2. Jordin Sparks​

[It doesn't matter how long the actual URLs are, either, because the online voter will click directly on the site that will cast his/her vote.]

NBC's "Deal or No Deal" already uses a combination of mobile and online voting. At the moment, they use short codes. I believe that "America's Got Talent" also uses short code calling, involving 10 different numbers per show.

Both "America's Got Talent" and "The Price is Right" (which suggests that they have a call-in feature in the works) have secured their .tels.

Right now, these shows' call-in numbers are either short codes (very expensive) or long 800 numbers.

.tel is not a household TLD yet, but it will be: tel is short, memorable, and common to just about every language.

[To recap, the tv screen will simply show]

idol.tel

online.idol.tel​

[While the voiceover explains where to go to vote.]

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[lexisdomains]

Kudos Ms Domainer. Very eloquently stated.

 

[BRINGbackTHEbiff]

stranger things have happened

Guys, i have a feeling .tel actually might take off , especially with the general public. If it catches on between friends and colleagues, everyone will be getting their .tel. Remember, yuo wont see many parked ,tels because it costs nothing to set up after initial purchase,(not like other domains) which will make a hell of a lot more .tels out there. Me personally think it will take off, may take a few years though. But once the big companys, banks etc start advertising their .tels, which i think they will, the public will take notice, remember .tel is global and i think its going to be part of big businesses portfolio.

thats my 2 cents. I have a neat collection of .tels and got in early.

 

[cobo]

Adding to Ms Domainer's great post above, some services will not even require a click to dial a call and vote.
The actual click could be the desired end result.
For example: let's use a gambling operation...say a simple heads or tails game.
A person pays to play, makes a pick between 2 choices and either wins money or loses money. Double or nothing perhaps.
There are all sorts of ways to monetize .tel if one is creative and has the right names.
Don't forget that the mobility of the web is happening whether some like it or not.
There will be those who adapt and there will be those who get left behind.
Of course one can always sit in the stands and watch as the Paradigm Shifters do their thing. :hehe:
Free will is a funny thing. As much as people try to "assist" in their own little ways,
infringing on another's free will could be detrimental to one's own growth.

 

[Steven]

Adding to Ms Domainer's great post above, some services will not even require a click to dial a call and vote.
The actual click could be the desired end result.
For example: let's use a gambling operation...say a simple heads or tails game.
A person pays to play, makes a pick between 2 choices and either wins money or loses money. Double or nothing perhaps.
There are all sorts of ways to monetize .tel if one is creative and has the right names.
Don't forget that the mobility of the web is happening whether some like it or not.
There will be those who adapt and there will be those who get left behind.
Of course one can always sit in the stands and watch as the Paradigm Shifters do their thing. :hehe:
Free will is a funny thing. As much as people try to "assist" in their own little ways,
infringing on another's free will could be detrimental to one's own growth.

With the advancement of technology, wouldn't the current website be mobilized instead of creating a whole new site for mobile device or phone be advanced enough to easily browse the PC websites?

 

[onlinelife]

Sedo Newsletter April '07

I just came across sedo newsletter posted in April '07;
I am not sure if it helps to clear some of your doubts but here it is:

Sedo Newsletter April '07
.TEL: The Next Big Thing?
By Christian Kalled, Director of North American Brokerage

Have you ever heard of Telnic Limited? If not, you're not alone. Until May of 2006, few outside of ICANN were familiar with the London-based start-up. That is until ICANN awarded Telnic exclusive rights to operate the registry of the new proposed sponsored Top Level Domain (sTLD) .TEL.

What is .TEL and why is it important?

According to Telnic's website, the company was founded in 1998 to develop and deliver "cutting-edge technology" that will allow individuals and businesses to "initiate communication or access services" by inputting a text-based address (i.e. a .TEL URL) on any web-enabled device. Telnic hopes to promote the integration of new technologies with conventional communications "such as fixed-to-mobile convergence by providing a "unifying naming structure" that will support both voice and data communications seamlessly.

How will they do it? By embracing IP-based technologies driven by the increasing power of broadband, Telnic intends to unify the traditional identifiers of personal communication "like telephone, mobile, and fax numbers, in addition to email and instant messaging addresses" into a universal, text-based URL. In the future, Telnic envisions users of the .TEL extension will be accessible via phone, fax, and email through a single, .TEL identifier, such as JohnSmith.tel.. Registrants will store their contact information on the DNS in the form of Naming Authority Pointer (NAPTR) records, which will be accessible via registry-sponsored software. Thankfully, Telnic has expressed a commitment to open-source technology, which should help to encourage early market adoption as well as technical innovation in the first stages of launch.

Sounds pretty cool, doesn't it? But how far off are we from mainstream adoption? What challenges lie ahead, and what implications does the release of .TEL have on the secondary domain market?

To start, no timetable for launch has been given. The .TEL project is already a long time in the making. Telnic filed its original application with ICANN in the fall of 2000. In 2004, evaluation teams commissioned by ICANN determined that Telnic did not yet meet the technical, business, or financial requirements of its Request for Proposal (RFP). Telnic continued to work through these issues and began commercial and technical negotiations with ICANN in mid-2005. By April of 2006, negotiations were concluded.

One major challenge to .TEL's viability will be the enforcement of its designated use. The new sTLD has been designed to locate people, rather than machines, a function that is separate and distinct from all other TLDs. Telnic, in conjunction with registrars, will have to put far-reaching measures in place to preserve the integrity of the .TEL community and ensure that no user-defined A, AAAA, or A6 resource records are stored on individual DNS.

The implications of enforcement could also be considerable for speculators. If NAPTRrecords are the only acceptable format for .TEL DNS, this may preclude traffic monetization entirely. It is unclear whether Telnic's acceptable use policy will restrict parking in this way, but it is certainly a cause for concern at this stage. If this were indeed the case, speculators would have to limit their activities to arbitrage only. This scenario is not unlikely, and could give rise to leasing-models similar to NetIdentity's, where surname-domains are subdivided (i.e. John.Smith.tel) and then rented to individual users on a subscription-basis.

 

[hullswingerscom]

lots of time my wife who loves to vote for the uk idol is unable to to get on the site due to overload...

 

[steveteva]

Any news about the webproxy removal? when will we get full url like name.tel rather than redirection? Please telnic staff like justin, we need an answer.

 

[calculin]

Any news about the webproxy removal? when will we get full url like name.tel rather than redirection? Please telnic staff like justin, we need an answer.

I´m waiting too. It´s important !