The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[devabby]

business.tel
organization.tel
edu.tel
education.tel
invest.tel
help.tel
download.tel
malaysia.tel
usa.tel
canada.tel

 

[morganga]

Hi Guys

I'm new to this discussion and have just skimmed thru a few pages along the way to page 28 and can't find what I was looking for, so please forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has already said.

Isn't the power of the .tel domain in the new NAPTR DNS record which is exclusive to the .tel domain?

I read a lot of posts where people say: go to web address: blah-blah.tel and look at the contact info, then contact your service.

The whole point of NAPTR record is to allow that step to be automated.

If the A record is the DNS for IP addresses,
The NAPTR record is the DNS for EVERYTHING ELSE.

So to phone someone, dont type their phone number into your mobile, just type in their tel domain and the mobile will do the rest.
Add a tel domain to your mobile and you have all their contact info.
Email someone using a .tel domain, skype someones .tel address, if they have GPS on their mobile and some software that updates location, then why not type in a .tel domain to google maps?

NAPTR records can also point to OTHER NAPTR records.

This sounds exciting because, if I owned smith.tel, for example, then I could offer a subscription service at smithtel.com whereby I map john.smith.tel to john123xyz.tel thereby giving john smith a nice looking tel domain and still giving him full control of his contact info via his private john123xyz.tel.

Am I missing something?

Gary

 

[plaggypig]

Hi Guys

I'm new to this discussion and have just skimmed thru a few pages along the way to page 28 and can't find what I was looking for, so please forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has already said.

Isn't the power of the .tel domain in the new NAPTR DNS record which is exclusive to the .tel domain?

I read a lot of posts where people say: go to web address: blah-blah.tel and look at the contact info, then contact your service.

The whole point of NAPTR record is to allow that step to be automated.

If the A record is the DNS for IP addresses,
The NAPTR record is the DNS for EVERYTHING ELSE.

So to phone someone, dont type their phone number into your mobile, just type in their tel domain and the mobile will do the rest.
Add a tel domain to your mobile and you have all their contact info.
Email someone using a .tel domain, skype someones .tel address, if they have GPS on their mobile and some software that updates location, then why not type in a .tel domain to google maps?

NAPTR records can also point to OTHER NAPTR records.

This sounds exciting because, if I owned smith.tel, for example, then I could offer a subscription service at smithtel.com whereby I map john.smith.tel to john123xyz.tel thereby giving john smith a nice looking tel domain and still giving him full control of his contact info via his private john123xyz.tel.

Am I missing something?

Gary

Welcome to Namepros

1. NAPTR records can be used for any DNS zone - they're not exclusive to the .tel TLD.

2. NAPTR can indeed point to anything.

3. The use case you describe of phoning people using their .tel address is correct - the phone software can simply resolve their phone number from the DNS, just as it currently resolves domain names to IP addresses. The Kiax Softphone does this already. There are also apps for the Blackberry and iPhone.

4. GPS data can certainly be used with .tel. I can well imagine lots of apps springing up that pull .tel DNS records and do all sorts of cool stuff with it.

5. NAPTR records can point to other NAPTR records. So yes, what you described would be possible, but in violation of Telnic's AUP - you're prohibited from delegating control over sub-domains to third parties. You could however run a directory listing for Smiths - you just couldn't give people their own sub-domain. At least that's how I understand it.

 

[chader144]

@Tribulatio: I agree that there should be some sort of program that would allow you to download your information. I would think this type of program would probably come from the Registrars or others. I can envision a registrar allowing you to download your contacts and setup in xml format and allowing you the ability to upload mass changes quickly.

@morganga I like how you think... but through the examples using the vip.tel I am unable to come to that conclusion. Maybe it is because they are demo-ing. Could be my phone ? But try typing in Justin.tel and see if that works. For me it brings up a webpage like interface in which I can scroll to his phone number and click connect. But no auto dialing by just typing in the .tel

 

[morganga]

Or think of it another way:

If I wanted to show you a great article on the bbc news site, would I tell you to type http://212.58.226.79/ into the address bar? Would I heck! You'd look at me like I was crazy, "you want me to what?!?" then you'd have to hand hold them while you got the number across: "twenty two?... thats what i said!... oh two one two.. yes got it... then what? a dot, ok..."

So why do we still do exactly that for mobile numbers? It sounds pre-historical when you think about it. DNS for mobile phone numbers is a natural extension of a familiar concept. Years from now we'll be looking back at this period and thinking how funny it was that we had to practically memorize a string of random numbers just to get hold of someone.

Gary

 

[CDM]

for a bit of fun

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/558207-what-top-10-word-s-new.html



Hey CDM, Im from Perth, whats the name??? lol

Hey Giles, just pm'd you. cheers

 

[plaggypig]

Will there be any possibility for me to backup the content of any of my .tel names, to transfer it (FTP) and to keep a backup on my local hard disk at home or office, in order to be able to recreate the domain again in case of a problem? (I do not necessarily mean a crash of servers: it might be a problem of hacking, somebody accessing my account, or just a human mistake by user.)

This would be very useful, and would really encourage me to build something.

The answer is yes - Henri has blogged about it.

 

[briman1970]

Here are some good size city names... all available.

DistrictofColumbia
CorpusChristi
StPaul
SaintPaul
Plano
FortWayne

 

[h2o]

These are the first 12 that came to mind.

01. what.tel
02. ever.tel
03. you.tel
04. do.tel
05. dont.tel
06. throw.tel
07. money.tel
08. into.tel
09. another.tel
10. tld.tel
11. money.tel
12. pit.tel

Out of all those, I think money.tel will be the most profitable in the long run. All kidding aside I think geos are going to do particularly well.

 

[briman1970]

sex
business
smith
...plus 7 US city geos

 

[morganga]

Welcome to Namepros

1. NAPTR records can be used for any DNS zone - they're not exclusive to the .tel TLD.

2. NAPTR can indeed point to anything.

3. The use case you describe of phoning people using their .tel address is correct - the phone software can simply resolve their phone number from the DNS, just as it currently resolves domain names to IP addresses. The Kiax Softphone does this already. There are also apps for the Blackberry and iPhone.

4. GPS data can certainly be used with .tel. I can well imagine lots of apps springing up that pull .tel DNS records and do all sorts of cool stuff with it.

5. NAPTR records can point to other NAPTR records. So yes, what you described would be possible, but in violation of Telnic's AUP - you're prohibited from delegating control over sub-domains to third parties. You could however run a directory listing for Smiths - you just couldn't give people their own sub-domain. At least that's how I understand it.

Re: 1
Interesting. I doubt there'd be any difference in the long run, I thought I read somewhere that .tel had the infrastructure to support NAPTR records whereas other tld's weren't in that position yet.

Re: 5
There must be a legal solution to this, that allows the subscriber to edit their own details and still use the cool url.

One solution would be to create a script that copys the records from john123abc.tel into john.smith.tel, bypassing the delegation clause. Your script would be in full control over the updates.

Businesses that need to manage a large directory of employees contact details would either require a dedicated HR person to enter updates, a publishing system that pushes contact detail updates from their internal DB to the .tel domain or they could provide each employee with a restricted login to the .tel service that allowed them to update their own details.

So a second solution could be to also own johnabc123.tel and make john smith the tech contact to johnabc123.tel so he can login and make udpates.
Or vice versa, let John Smith own johnabc123.tel and add yourself as the tech contact to give yourself some authority over the domain name.

Could this work? :D

 

[Tribulatio]

The answer is yes - Henri has blogged about it.

Thank you, very useful information! Rep added.
I hope it will be possible to do it in a very simple way, but let's wait.

 

[plaggypig]

Thank you, very useful information! Rep added.
I hope it will be possible to do it in a very simple way, but let's wait.

Yeah he didn't mention whether the import/export functions would be available in the TelHosting management software, but it seems like such an obvious feature that I'd be amazed if it wasn't included - after all not everybody is going to be using the API to manage their records.

 

[saucey]

Sorry for the delay in responding. In terms of logos on your site, there will of course be a .tel logo on your .tel domain, but beyond that we can certainly look at providing marketing tools and logos to the community to use in fair use. I had built some widgets using Sproutbuilder but am looking at different options as they've recently changed their business model. In terms of setting up a reseller site, I would have to check into the branding possibilities for that.

We'll be popping up a community area on the website (www.telnic.org) shortly, which will have some updated FAQs, an owners guide (which will expand) and other useful information.

Justin Hayward
Telnic
justin.tel

Thanx again for keeping us updated Justin! Very Helpful!

Regards,

Saucey....

 

[Ms Domainer]

Sorry for the delay in responding. In terms of logos on your site, there will of course be a .tel logo on your .tel domain, but beyond that we can certainly look at providing marketing tools and logos to the community to use in fair use. I had built some widgets using Sproutbuilder but am looking at different options as they've recently changed their business model. In terms of setting up a reseller site, I would have to check into the branding possibilities for that.

We'll be popping up a community area on the website (www.telnic.org) shortly, which will have some updated FAQs, an owners guide (which will expand) and other useful information.

Justin Hayward
Telnic
justin.tel

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Thanks, Justin.

The reseller community will definitely be instrumental in helping to get the word out about .tel.

I suspect your target end user groups will be business owners protecting their TMs (who may be doing so reluctantly, at least for now), the youth group (10-19), and young adult (20-30)--these are likely to be the early adopters.

Have you thought about getting some celebrity spokespeople on board? It seems that "new-fangled" things develop legs when young people think they're cool and embrace them.

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[saucey]

"Have you thought about getting some celebrity spokespeople on board? It seems that "new-fangled" things develop legs when young people think they're cool and embrace them."

Not a bad idea Ms Domainer...

Especially with people like Bono from U2, and J.K. Rowling of Harry Potter fame already securing their .Tel's!

 

[Ms Domainer]

"Have you thought about getting some celebrity spokespeople on board? It seems that "new-fangled" things develop legs when young people think they're cool and embrace them."

Not a bad idea Ms Domainer...

Especially with people like Bono from U2, and J.K. Rowling of Harry Potter fame already securing their .Tel's!

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Other possibilities: Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, Beyonce, etc., at least for the US market.

(Other countries could have their own celeb spokepeople.)

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[MicroGuy]

I found this video pretty interesting.

Justin Hayward of Telnic was asked in September 2008 if Justin.tel was already taken and he said 'no' even though it was already a live .tel page and also embroidered on the back of this shirt (1:15 to 2:25 in video).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWm49Dogw_k

These types of responses although perhaps technically truthful make me hesitant to take anything he says without a bit of skepticism.

 

[plaggypig]

I found this video pretty interesting.

Justin Hayward of Telnic was asked in September 2008 if Justin.tel was already taken and he said 'no' even though it was already a live .tel page and also embroidered on the back of this shirt (1:15 to 2:25 in video).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWm49Dogw_k

These types of responses although perhaps technically truthful make me hesitant to take anything he says without a bit of skepticism.

Maybe the example .tel's will get deleted and drop? celebrity.tel would be a nice catch

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Other possibilities: Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, Beyonce, etc., at least for the US market.

(Other countries could have their own celeb spokepeople.)

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Why not just have Chuck Norris? Here are some interesting facts:

Fact #1: Chuck Norris controls your A records. If you try and change them yourself he will break your face.
Fact #2: Chuck Norris already knows your phone number, and your address, and your present geo-location - .tel is simply the physical manifestation of this knowledge.
Fact #3: Chuck Norris applied for hotels.tel during sunrise - his trademark application was just his photograph. Deloitte's approved it.

 

[phase111]

These are the first 12 that came to mind.

01. what.tel
02. ever.tel
03. you.tel
04. do.tel
05. dont.tel
06. throw.tel
07. money.tel
08. into.tel
09. another.tel
10. tld.tel
11. money.tel
12. pit.tel

If you had put that much effort into buying a good .tel, you'd be sitting pretty buddy. :hehe: :imho: